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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 08:57 AM Oct 2013

Yet Another Poll Shows GOP Receiving Most Blame For Shutdown (updated)

Yet Another Poll Shows GOP Receiving Most Blame For Shutdown

A web poll released Wednesday showed that Republicans continue to bear most of the blame for the government shutdown, the latest iteration of a clear and consistent trend.

The Associated Press-GfK survey showed that 62 percent of American adults primarily blame Republicans for the first shutdown since 1996, while about half pinned the blame on President Barack Obama or congressional Democrats.

And while 52 percent said that Obama is not cooperating enough with the GOP to end the shutdown, 63 percent said Republicans aren't doing enough to cooperate with the president.

Republicans have assailed Obama for his refusal to negotiate the terms of a continuing resolution that would re-open the shuttered government. Obama, meanwhile, has said that he will negotiate but only after Congress passes a bill to fund the government.

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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/yet-another-poll-shows-gop-receiving-most-blame-for-shutdown

The media-pushed false equivalency is likely driving those numbers for Obama, but the trend is clear: Republicans are getting slammed.

According to the poll, Congress' approval is at 5 percent.

Poll Indicates GOP Has Been Deeply Damaged By Shutdown Fight
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023758198

Republican shutdown is not playing well in Peoria. Or Kansas City. Or Sacramento. Or ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023767797

Shutdown takes its toll on congressional GOP
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023806587

Republicans are not playing by the rules, they're abusing their power
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023808698

President Obama's remarks on government shutdown, Rockville, MD

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Now, I want everybody to understand what's happened, because sometimes when this gets reported on everybody kind of thinks, well, you know, both sides are just squabbling; Democrats and Republicans, they're always arguing, so neither side is behaving properly. I want everybody to understand what's happened here. The Republicans passed a temporary budget for two months at a funding level that we, as Democrats, actually think is way too low because we’re not providing help for more small businesses, doing more for early childhood education, doing more to rebuild our infrastructure. But we said, okay, while we’re still trying to figure out this budget, we’re prepared to go ahead and take the Republican budget levels that they proposed.

So the Senate passed that with no strings attached -- not because it had everything the Democrats wanted. In fact, it had very little that the Democrats wanted. But we said, let’s go ahead and just make sure that other people aren’t hurt while negotiations are still taking place.

So that’s already passed the Senate. And we know there are enough Republicans and Democrats to vote in the House of Representatives for the same thing. So I want everybody to understand this: There are enough Republicans and Democrats in the House of Representatives today that, if the Speaker of the House, John Boehner, simply let the bill get on the floor for an up-or-down vote, every congressman could vote their conscience -- the shutdown would end today.

The only thing that is keeping the government shut down; the only thing preventing people from going back to work and basic research starting back up, and farmers and small business owners getting their loan -- the only thing that’s preventing all that from happening, right now, today, in the next five minutes, is that Speaker John Boehner won’t even let the bill get a yes-or-no vote, because he doesn’t want to anger the extremists in his party. That’s all. That’s what this whole thing is about.

We’ve heard a lot from congressional Republicans in the past couple of days saying they don’t want this shutdown. Well, there’s a simple way to prove it. Send the bill to the floor, let everybody vote -- it will pass. Send me the bill; I will sign it. The shutdown will be over and we can get back to the business of governing and helping the American people. (Applause.)

It could happen in the next half hour. National parks, monuments, offices would all reopen immediately. Benefits and services would resume again. Hundreds of thousands of dedicated public servants who are worrying about whether they’re going to be able to pay the mortgage or pay the car note, they’d start going back to work right away. So my simple message today is: Call a vote. Call a vote.

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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/10/03/1243894/-President-Obama-s-remarks-on-government-shutdown-Rockville-MD

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023782420

Updated to add:

Harry Reid Compromised On Shutdown Negotiation, House Republican Acknowledges
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/05/harry-reid-shutdown_n_4050400.html

Senate Passes 'Clean' CR to Avoid Shutdown, Punts to House

Finally, Friday afternoon, the body, in a vote of 54 to 44, passed its version of a CR to avoid a government shutdown on October 1. The Senate-passed version amended a previously passed version from the House of Representatives.

http://www.foxbusiness.com/government/2013/09/27/senate-passes-clean-cr-to-avoid-shutdown-punts-to-house/

Enough with the BS false equivalency. Even Republicans and Fox know that the Democrats have compromised.

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Berlum

(7,044 posts)
12. Corporate Media (R) is once again disgracing itself
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 11:47 AM
Oct 2013

I bet they wonder why so few people swallow the shit they try to shove down out throats.

Corporate Media (R) has totally shit the cred bed.

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
2. One prime-time speech will be enough to blow those numbers out completely
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 09:02 AM
Oct 2013

The President is in a much better position, on the merits and on ability, than they are to clarify things.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
10. They are "now" a fringe in the lunatic fringe?
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 11:41 AM
Oct 2013

LOL

For quite sometime, s***

These MF have lived in an alternate reality for quite sometime which have now come front and center and is harming America and her people without a second thought. These gopers need to be voted out of office!

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
5. by all that's sane, the polls should be MUCH worse for the repubs
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 09:51 AM
Oct 2013

that it isn't, shows how fucked we are.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
15. Given that some of these polls lean right and
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 11:57 AM
Oct 2013

the media's false equivalency talking points, it's clear that Republicans benefit from that.

Also, I consider the Independent pool skews right.

Still, after all those factors are taken into consideration, a poll showing that 51 percent "strongly" disapproves of the Republicans (to 39 percent for the President) is definitely really bad for Republicans. That's a majority in the "strongly" column.

This from the second link is key:

Only 24 percent of Americans approve of the GOP’s handling of the budget, after a week of battling over the shutdown. Only 23 percent of independents approve, versus 73 percent who disapprove. Among moderates, those numbers are 22-73. That’s nearly three fourths of independents and moderates disapproving. (While independents disapprove of Obama’s handling of it, the numbers are far less lopsided; moderates overall approve of his handling.)

Lobo27

(753 posts)
9. The problem is that so many people are brainwashed that they can't
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 11:26 AM
Oct 2013

see that the GoP is messing everything up. Like today I commented on a Yahoo story, and the first reply was "I'm not paying for you're lazy mexican ass."

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