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cali

(114,904 posts)
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 11:18 AM Oct 2013

Bernie Sanders Storms The Supreme Court to Stop the Koch Brothers Theft of Democracy

Kind of a ridiculous title but what he had to say was anything but ridiculous.


Sen. Sanders said,

In the long history of our country people have fought and died for democracy. Democracy means one person, one vote. The fact that all of us have the opportunity to be involved in the political process to stand up for what we believe in. Three years ago, or so the Supreme Court decided that corporations are people. They decided that through independent expenditures billionaires could spend unlimited sums of money to impact elections.

Let me say one word to you right now about how relevant that is. As all of you know, the government of the United States shut down. Hundreds of thousands of workers are suffering, millions of people are not getting the services they need. Right now, as we speak, in the House of Representatives there are people who are being threatened that if they vote for a clean CR to open the government without destroying the Affordable Care Act then huge sums of money will be spent against them in the next election.

We are living in a society where a handful of people with incredible sums of money, folks like the Koch brothers and others, are undermining what this democracy is supposed to be about. The bottom line here is that if we do not want to move this nation to an oligarchic form of society where a handful of billionaires can determine the outcome of these elections, then it is imperative not only that we overturn Citizens United, but that we put a lid on how much people can contribute in elections.

Freedom of speech, in my view, does not mean the freedom to buy the United States government

Sen. Sanders was present at the Supreme Court to hear oral arguments in the case of McCutcheon vs. FEC. The Supreme Court will deciding the fate of the caps that limit how much donors can give to candidates and political organizations during a two year election cycle later in this term.

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http://www.politicususa.com/2013/10/08/bernie-sanders-storms-supreme-court-stop-koch-brothers-theft-democracy.html

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Bernie Sanders Storms The Supreme Court to Stop the Koch Brothers Theft of Democracy (Original Post) cali Oct 2013 OP
Thank you Bernie!!! gopiscrap Oct 2013 #1
K&R. Go Bernie, nt AnotherDreamWeaver Oct 2013 #2
Man oh man 2naSalit Oct 2013 #3
Thank you Sen Sanders. nm rhett o rick Oct 2013 #4
..and this guy is an independent. What's that say about the Dem party? L0oniX Oct 2013 #5
Plus one................nt Enthusiast Oct 2013 #14
He has a very good reason, to be sure n/t Oilwellian Oct 2013 #21
actually, it doesn't say much about the vt dem party cali Oct 2013 #24
Impressive. raging moderate Oct 2013 #6
On Point Pedalman Oct 2013 #7
I love this potent line Samantha Oct 2013 #8
I wish we could clone Bernie Sanders! n/t UtahLib Oct 2013 #9
No kidding! FiveGoodMen Oct 2013 #10
Oh Me Too... For Those Who Remember Paul Wellstone ChiciB1 Oct 2013 #19
Bernie...what a great POTUS you would be.... dotymed Oct 2013 #11
Bernie Sanders Iwillnevergiveup Oct 2013 #12
Yay, Bernie! Enthusiast Oct 2013 #13
He's not a radical by '60s/'70s standards Art_from_Ark Oct 2013 #41
A Senator's political position Enthusiast Oct 2013 #44
Impressive. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2013 #15
I'd "storm" with Senator Sanders anywhere!! Lifelong Protester Oct 2013 #16
Thank you Bernie and thank you Occupy Voice for Peace Oct 2013 #17
Bernie! AzDar Oct 2013 #18
Fabulous malaise Oct 2013 #20
Wow! Grateful for Hope Oct 2013 #22
Horrific Fact: Jefferson23 Oct 2013 #23
kick Squinch Oct 2013 #25
Thanks, Bernie stage left Oct 2013 #26
We need more of Bernie Sanders Spirochete Oct 2013 #27
I so wish he was a member of the Democratic Party littlewolf Oct 2013 #28
Exactly. Our founding fathers wrote... tecelote Oct 2013 #29
Unfortunately, few in Congress and in the population in general Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2013 #30
I heard some talking heads on TV in the background agree "money is speech" as if that's accepted.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #31
+1,000!!! The OP has it a little wrong though in my humble opinion. We need to take ALL Dustlawyer Oct 2013 #39
K & R !!! WillyT Oct 2013 #32
Kicked and recommended but I believe the House Republicans' real target is Social Security. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #33
I agree... KansDem Oct 2013 #34
For the most part the ACA was originally their idea anyway. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #35
kicked and Rec'ced fascisthunter Oct 2013 #36
The Honorable Senator Sanders gave the definition, I will go where he didn't. Rebellious Republican Oct 2013 #37
Indeed. If money is 'speech' then those without money have no voice. flpoljunkie Oct 2013 #46
Well said flpoljunkie..... Rebellious Republican Oct 2013 #48
. libodem Oct 2013 #38
KNR for the best pol of my 42 yo lifetime! Democratic Socialism is the cure to Fascism. nt livingwagenow Oct 2013 #40
Bernie is the man! Perhaps the last and only one left in government that actually understands silvershadow Oct 2013 #42
No love for Elizabeth Warren? demwing Oct 2013 #43
there are indeed. It always bugs me when people cali Oct 2013 #45
Much love for Warren as well!. nt silvershadow Oct 2013 #49
We need more Bernies! B Calm Oct 2013 #47

2naSalit

(86,646 posts)
3. Man oh man
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 12:04 PM
Oct 2013

I wish we had representatives out here in the Rockies that were even half as much a representative with scruples as Bernie!!!

A True Statesman!

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
24. actually, it doesn't say much about the vt dem party
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 03:00 PM
Oct 2013

if only dems nationwide were what the vt dem party is.

Not that I don't love the vt prog party too.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
8. I love this potent line
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 12:17 PM
Oct 2013

"Freedom of speech, in my view, does not mean the freedom to buy the United States government." That is exactly what is happening, and in the aftermath, if they are successful, the new version of our government will hardly resemble what the majority of the people want it to look like.

Sam

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
19. Oh Me Too... For Those Who Remember Paul Wellstone
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 01:59 PM
Oct 2013

another fabulous person/Democrat, I was devastated when he died on my birthday back in 2002! Then I found Bernie, who was actually listed as a Socialist when he was first elected. When I think of what these TWO could have done together for "we the people" it hurts my heart!

Of course, I know liberals are out of style these days, it was Ronnie Rayguns who began his tirade about us way back then, but I still find it comfortable to say loudly and proudly, that I are one! I realize concessions have to be made as time goes on, but this country is WAY OFF TRACK! Thanks Bernie, yes I want MORE OF YOU!

dotymed

(5,610 posts)
11. Bernie...what a great POTUS you would be....
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 01:13 PM
Oct 2013

YOU are the voice of reason and you do not hesitate to educate.

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
12. Bernie Sanders
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 01:15 PM
Oct 2013

needs our encouragement and support by the millions. Imagine how frustrating it must be for him speaking out and fighting constantly for the real values enshrined in the Constitution. Others in the House and Senate need to lend their voices, too.

K&R

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
13. Yay, Bernie!
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 01:22 PM
Oct 2013

Bernie is a middle of the road moderate socialist. He isn't a radical by any means.

What are the ones that sit by and silently allow TPTB dismantle the democracy? Quislings?

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
41. He's not a radical by '60s/'70s standards
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 02:44 AM
Oct 2013

Certainly he would have been a bit to the right of Bella Abzug. But there doesn't seem to be anybody else in the Senate who is willing to actively stand up for issues that were once staples of the Democratic Party, so that pretty much makes him a "radical" today.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
44. A Senator's political position
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 08:09 AM
Oct 2013

must be measured by the position of the electorate on the various issues.

On "issues that were once staples of the Democratic Party" the American people are squarely in the Senator's camp. By a huge margin the people want to preserve entitlements. There is your center, not some imaginary center that the Fascists want to assign. Bernie is no radical, far from it.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
17. Thank you Bernie and thank you Occupy
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 01:40 PM
Oct 2013

for waking so many folks up to what's right
under everyone's nose.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
23. Horrific Fact:
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 02:17 PM
Oct 2013

We are living in a society where a handful of people with incredible sums of money, folks like the Koch brothers and others, are undermining what this democracy is supposed to be about.


K&R for Bernie.

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
29. Exactly. Our founding fathers wrote...
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 06:21 PM
Oct 2013

"In the long history of our country people have fought and died for democracy. Democracy means one person, one vote."

They did not say one business and they did not know what a corporation was.

How can the Supreme Court change the definition of person?

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
30. Unfortunately, few in Congress and in the population in general
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 06:32 PM
Oct 2013

see things as clearly and are willing to state them as blatantly as Sanders. I love him, but he has little power to affect the 1% completing their takeover of our country, their ownership of our government.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
31. I heard some talking heads on TV in the background agree "money is speech" as if that's accepted....
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 06:42 PM
Oct 2013

But I say, "If money = speech than speech is no longer free."

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
39. +1,000!!! The OP has it a little wrong though in my humble opinion. We need to take ALL
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 01:03 AM
Oct 2013

OF THE $ OUT!!! Publicly funded elections are much better.

Uncle Joe

(58,365 posts)
33. Kicked and recommended but I believe the House Republicans' real target is Social Security.
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 07:09 PM
Oct 2013

All their rumblings and meaningless votes against the ACA is a smokescreen.

Thanks for the thread, cali.

Uncle Joe

(58,365 posts)
35. For the most part the ACA was originally their idea anyway.
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 08:47 PM
Oct 2013

Social Security in no way, shape or form was.

 

Rebellious Republican

(5,029 posts)
37. The Honorable Senator Sanders gave the definition, I will go where he didn't.
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 09:46 PM
Oct 2013

Its called a Plutocracy.

plu·toc·ra·cy (pl-tkr-s)
n. pl. plu·toc·ra·cies
1. Government by the wealthy.
2. A wealthy class that controls a government.
3. A government or state in which the wealthy rule.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/plutocrat

flpoljunkie

(26,184 posts)
46. Indeed. If money is 'speech' then those without money have no voice.
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 08:43 AM
Oct 2013

Those without a voice are hurting the most in this insane Teabagger government shutdown.

 

Rebellious Republican

(5,029 posts)
48. Well said flpoljunkie.....
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 04:24 PM
Oct 2013

We must have been separated at child birth!
I just had this conversation with a certain Tampa Bay Times Journalist last night via email.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
42. Bernie is the man! Perhaps the last and only one left in government that actually understands
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 04:19 AM
Oct 2013

and will defend our Democracy itself. I wish the Presidency upon him, knowing it will never be... Sigh.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
45. there are indeed. It always bugs me when people
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 08:11 AM
Oct 2013

here- as they frequently do- act as if only one person in Congress is a real progressive. There's Warren and Grayson and Peter Welch and Sherrod Brown and quite a few more. Not enough, but Bernie is hardly the only one.

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