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srican69

(1,426 posts)
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 12:24 PM Oct 2013

congressional elections should be held once in 4 years .. here is why

Last edited Wed Oct 9, 2013, 12:55 PM - Edit history (1)

Pros

1) Most congressmen/women get reelected anyway
2) It saves the government money
3) You can always do a recall if you aren't happy ---- :On update - this is not true ... no recalls
4) It will coincide with Presidential elections and thus will have greater participation ( good for democracy)
5) This is a stretch - but hopefully there will be more compromise particularly in years 2&3 of the term



Cons

1) less responsive to constituents ( which they are anyway)
2) recalls are painfull ( this doesnt apply either as there are no recalls)

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congressional elections should be held once in 4 years .. here is why (Original Post) srican69 Oct 2013 OP
I'd just as soon rather see term limits Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #1
i'd not .. institutional memory has its advantages ... srican69 Oct 2013 #4
I see nothing wrong with say Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #7
The Founders expected to have "farmer" representatives.... Swede Atlanta Oct 2013 #12
And I believe the opposite jeff47 Oct 2013 #14
But it would knock out a lot of good people, too treestar Oct 2013 #19
Lobbyist already run it... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2013 #9
agreed ... srican69 Oct 2013 #18
What is the problem to which this change is a solution? Xipe Totec Oct 2013 #2
if 2010 were a presidential election year - we wouldn't having this crap. srican69 Oct 2013 #5
I think I understand - Tie congressional elections to presidential cycle? Xipe Totec Oct 2013 #21
Sorry - no recall brooklynite Oct 2013 #3
Mandatory voting. Rod Beauvex Oct 2013 #6
+a billion (nt) jeff47 Oct 2013 #13
That is bullshit. Requiring someone to fill out a ballot Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #15
If Jury is Mandatory - then why not voting. srican69 Oct 2013 #20
if the house (2 years) and senate (6 years) are both dysfunctional, why would 4 years work? unblock Oct 2013 #8
force everything to 4 years .... srican69 Oct 2013 #16
In The Current 2 Year Term Those Elected Begin Running For Re-election.... global1 Oct 2013 #10
#3 is false. jeff47 Oct 2013 #11
Interesting idea treestar Oct 2013 #17
Good idea. All terms should be 4 years, and elections held at the same time as pres. election n/t Blaukraut Oct 2013 #22

srican69

(1,426 posts)
4. i'd not .. institutional memory has its advantages ...
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 12:27 PM
Oct 2013

if you have a 2 term limit - the place will run by aides/lobbyists who aren't accountable to anyone

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
7. I see nothing wrong with say
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 12:37 PM
Oct 2013

three terms for the senate (18 years)
five terms for the house (10 years)

Those are long enough for *anyone*...Besides, any hardcore ratfink scumbag career politician who is really motivated will just move to a new district or state when his limit is reached...

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
12. The Founders expected to have "farmer" representatives....
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 12:41 PM
Oct 2013

who would serve a term or two in the House and maybe a term in the Senate and then return to their normal lives.

We have career politicians....

We passed an Amendment to limit Presidents to no more than 2 4-year terms. I don't see why we don't say max 8 years in the House and 12 years in the Senate.

This would eliminate these cretins from looking only to the next election. They might actually think about what is either good for the country or for their "long-term" legacies.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
14. And I believe the opposite
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 12:44 PM
Oct 2013

I believe we should get rid of the Presidential term limit. If the current President wants to run again, and the public wants them in office, why should we ban that?

Congress has term limits. They're called elections. The fact that most voters (who bother to show up) are satisfied with their Congressperson doesn't mean we need term limits.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
19. But it would knock out a lot of good people, too
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 12:56 PM
Oct 2013

Like Ted Kennedy or Joe Biden. And their long term knowledge is useful. The Founders wouldn't have realized how much of a full time job it could be, too.

And in their day, they had to be away from family for long periods to do it, so they were motivated to avoid serving too long.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
9. Lobbyist already run it...
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 12:39 PM
Oct 2013

They write almost all legislation. The votes are just a dog and pony show.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
21. I think I understand - Tie congressional elections to presidential cycle?
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 01:14 PM
Oct 2013

What would you do about senatorial elections which occur every six years, staggered by two years?

You would still have senatorial elections in mid presidential terms.

I think the system is geared to make changes in government more gradual. I think there was a lot of thought put into this 2,4,6 year formula.

I like it the way it is, despite the annoyance it causes from time to time.

I think the problem lies elsewhere; with campaign financing.

Rod Beauvex

(564 posts)
6. Mandatory voting.
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 12:30 PM
Oct 2013

Mandatory voting. Many of the real democracies have this.

You can vote Republican, Democratic, Independent, Other, or none of the Above, but you have to vote. This would go a long way towards fixing the problem.

srican69

(1,426 posts)
20. If Jury is Mandatory - then why not voting.
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 12:59 PM
Oct 2013

Voting is Mandatory in Australia - its worked out ok for them.

just sayin

unblock

(52,253 posts)
8. if the house (2 years) and senate (6 years) are both dysfunctional, why would 4 years work?
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 12:38 PM
Oct 2013

this is just a change that wouldn't solve anything.

srican69

(1,426 posts)
16. force everything to 4 years ....
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 12:52 PM
Oct 2013

that along with presidential elections will result in a big turnout ..and large turnout has always favored democrats

global1

(25,253 posts)
10. In The Current 2 Year Term Those Elected Begin Running For Re-election....
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 12:40 PM
Oct 2013

the minute they take office. They spend a great deal of their time campaigning and raising re-election money versus doing their job.
Ever wonder why they have so much time off?


treestar

(82,383 posts)
17. Interesting idea
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 12:53 PM
Oct 2013

It's a good one. People might pay more attention as the election as a big deal like it is every four years. The off years, people think they can just ignore, and it's when their closest-to-them federal representatives are elected.

Also put Senators back to four years. Though maybe their off-year elections might get more attention.

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