Tea Bagger vs Tea Party and why it matters

[LaydeeBug]

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It seems that for honest discourse to happen, we all have to TELL THE TRUTH. Our nation is mired in a crisis right now, and we need to go back to square one to understand what's really happening. I have noticed a lot of umbrage being thrown my way when I call the 'Tea Partiers' "Tea Baggers". This is because that is what they called themselves. In 2009, not even four months after OUR President's first inaugural, they launched the website 'teabagparty.org'. They've since taken it down, but it used to feature people wearing the colonial three point hat with tea bags hanging out of them. They issued pressers. They held conferences. There is a public record of these things, and the whole 'moniker kerfluffle' speaks to the larger point: these. people. think. they. can. rewrite. history. if. it. embarrasses. them. They also think they can hold *you* accountable for *their* revision. And on a much larger scale, they are trying to do the exact same thing now.

[Jackpine Radical]

1. We have to be nice to them or they might do something crazy.

Oh, wait…

[LaydeeBug]

4. oh wait is right. And allowing them to cherry pick what suits them

exacerbates the problem.

You tell me if Hillary Clinton or Howard Dean were to start a group and called it "The Tea Bag Party" whether they'd be able to 'switch it' because they got p'wnd. *THAT* they tried to rewrite would be a story used to undermine their credibility.

You can make up your own opinion. You don't get to make up your own facts.

[dballance]

2. faux outrage

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Seems like just so much faux outrage to me. I doubt 99% of the US gives a crap about the difference.

on edit:

The Tea Baggers just need something to whine about how the Librul media is mistreating them.

[LaydeeBug]

6. Oh, I assure you my outrage is real.

Their switching their moniker is a panacea for what they're trying to do right now with this shut down.

they think they can rewrite the rules, they think they can rewrite facts, and they think they can rewrite history if it doesn't suit them.

*I* did not name them Tea Baggers. *THEY* did. Pretending otherwise is wholly dishonest.

[Jackpine Radical]

10. I think the comment pertained to THEIR outrage, not yours.

[LaydeeBug]

17. Nevertheless, my outrage is very real. lol nt

[dballance]

22. their outrage.

my outrage w/ them is quite real too.

[LaydeeBug]

31. I am sorry for my confusion. nt

[n2doc]

3. When someone complains, I just assume they are a RW troll, regardless of post count

This is a war. It is not a time to be nice to the T-baggers.

[dballance]

30. If you bother to read my posts you'll see I'm not a RW troll.

Perhaps I didn't state things as elegantly as I should have since I'm on mobile. I will remedy that in the future.


As my dad always told me "'assume' just makes an ass out of u and me too"

[LaydeeBug]

32. I think he was saying it about the "proverbial" they and not you specifically.

when *they* get pissed off about the term tea bagger.

Jinx! You did it too. I owe you a Coke.

I am pretty sure that dballance does not consider you a troll. And neither do I.

[HappyMe]

5. I don't care.

An asshat by any other name is still an asshat.

[hobbit709]

7. My attitude to the Teabaggers is explained in this song.;

[LaydeeBug]

18. Mine is explained in this one:

[JaneQPublic]

8. I was pleased to hear Senator Barb (Maryland) call them "Teabaggers" on TV.

It was on MSNBC, I believe Andrea Mitchell's show a week or so ago.

As a Marylander, I couldn't have been more proud.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

26. Wait... Mikulski called them "Teabaggers"?

LOL

As a former Marylander, I'd have to agree!

[LaydeeBug]

33. Yep. She most certainly did. I *love* her

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023812301

[JaneQPublic]

37. Thanks for the link!

I missed your earlier thread, so I'm glad to have it.

I see Sen. Barb's "teabagger" comment wasn't as long ago as I remembered. It was just last Friday.

[City Lights]

9. To avoid this it might just be better to call them what they are:

Republicans.

[JHB]

11. This seems like a good place to recycle a talking point :) :

I pointedly give two reasons for using "Teabaggers"

1) It's their original name for themselves, before they were clued in about that other meaning. Hey, that other one isn't part of my world either, so no harm no foul about not knowing, but you don't get to rewrite history. You don't get to pull the old Soviet trick and then call me a "communist".

2) The patriots in Boston in 1773 destroyed valuable property of a corporation so well-connected to the government that it prompted legislative retaliation and a military crackdown. And that night there was a very real possibility that they would be met with force in defense of the property.

Compared to that, the Teabaggers are kids playing dress-up. Their protests have never been in any real danger, and they certainly haven't stood up to any actual tyranny.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023817735#post9

[LaydeeBug]

19. an awesome talking point at that. nt

[Aristus]

12. These people, who fly into a hysterical, spluttering rage if you call them 'teabaggers',

have no qualms about calling the President of the United States 'Barry HUSSEIN Soetero'.

So fuck 'em all...

[lame54]

13. Watch this very important vid...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017150796

[Orsino]

14. We've heard all that...

...and it would be important if the Tea Party weren't an astroturfed entity fronted by Republicans in stupidface, and if the alleged party weren't working to dismantle the nation.

Derogatory terms are fine with me, under the circumstances, as long as we acknowledge that some of the citizenry at all may he well-intentioned, or just badly misled.

[LaydeeBug]

20. We may have heard it, but *they* need to listen

You don't get to rewrite history. And they are certainly trying.

[Bok_Tukalo]

15. You can call them green peas for all I care

But don't pretend it isn't rude. It is.

If you meet someone named Robert, and after calling him Bob he asks you not to yet you continue to do so knowing he objects, you're being a Richard.

[Iggo]

24. Yeah, it's rude.

Tough shit.

[LaydeeBug]

27. If you met Richard & he said, "Hi! I'm A. Dick. I'm A. Dick just like my Dad"

and then he finds out the pejorative of *Dick*, do we have to start calling him "Richard" when he's holding a gun to our mother's head?

[Iggo]

36. Apt!

[frylock]

39. Fuck Bob..

and fuck the teabaggers.

[Pretzel_Warrior]

16. Well, yeah. I think there are other reasons they are called that

And we can be honest about it. We don't need to be disengenuous about what we are doing there.

[Wounded Bear]

21. I like to call them Teabaggers....

because that's what is being done to them now.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

23. I'd just post the pic of the Grannie teabagging for Jesus...

and say "You can't rewrite history." Keep it simple -- they don't like all those words, and stuff.

[LaydeeBug]

28. That happens to be my FB pic right now. nt

[mulsh]

25. I always call them teabaggers. I never use the other term. it seems to infuriate the few teabaggers

I know.

I don't care that they have tried to change the name.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

29. The More You Know.....

http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/enough-whining-teabaggers-actually-i

[LaydeeBug]

35. this is a great (and now bookmarked) link. Thanks for sharing it. nt

[Tommy_Carcetti]

38. I posted it on Facebook after some Tea Partier was whining about being called a Teabagger.

Pretty much shut her up.

I actually tend to avoid the term myself, but credit must be given where credit is due.

[Laelth]

34. k&r for the truth, however depressing it may be. n/t

-Laelth