We Now Have An Indefinite Shut Down. Temp Debt Limit Signals GOP Intentions.

[TheMastersNemesis]

It looks like this shutdown is "stealth sequestration". They are actually drowning the government just like Norquist wants. Most GOPPERS think they will be rewarded for their behavior. A lot of them are in hiding and really won't listen to the phone calls, emails and protests. So you can forget about that option. Their minds seem to be made up.

The only legislation they seem to want to pass is if their shut down hurts Republicans or their donors. Everyone else is supposed to STFU.

[gordianot]

1. It was bound to happen someday the end of a Constitutinal Democracy. Sorry I lived to see it.

[Liberalynn]

2. This is what I am afraid of

[doc03]

3. I hope the hell the Democrats don't cave on that n/t

[grasswire]

4. this was signaled

.....by the young man tasked by Koch with keeping Republicans in line:

Others condemn the use of a shutdown to repeal laws, but Needham said “the process is being used now just as the process should be used in the future.”

[lostincalifornia]

5. Let the chips fall where they may. The only thing they may want to negotiate

Is an extension until the next election, then hopefully the thug get thrown out on their ass

[Nictuku]

6. Can I tell that to my mortgage holder?

..... "let the chips fall where they may" *my stomach hurts just thinking about this*

[lostincalifornia]

7. what if the thugs say cut Social Security, Medicare, and ACA, and no tax increases or we will let it

fall?

Should we accept it in that case?