OBAMACARE sucks b/c so many people WANT it and the website's OVERLOADED

[elehhhhna]

Is that all ya got?

[NoOneMan]

1. It sucks because it codifies social stratification and sticks the lower with high deductibles

and usage fees that induce self-rationing, thereby leading to lower health care outcomes that are deemed as acceptable.


The fact the website sucks just is an example of government waste and incompetence, rather than any reflection specifically on ACA.

[elehhhhna]

4. I know, right? The old way was wayyyyyy better!!!!!1!!

Series!!1






















call CONGRESS RIGHT NOW@!@!!!

[NoOneMan]

5. Saying chicken poop is the best because it smells better than dog poop ignores everything else...

that smells better, including rocks, raisins and roses, while simultaneously ignoring the inherent faults of chicken poop (though I will admit how cool it can be in certain contexts)

There is so much wrong with this new system that only deluded masses suffering some grand psychosis could accept, much less promote and applaud

Better than the worse possible fucking system imaginable? Sure. How much does that say?

[tabasco]

7. Yes, demand instant utopia, rather than incremental change for the better!!

Very wise!

[elehhhhna]

8. they didn't go for it - got it.

NHC is on its way. This is a major step and a paradigm shift in the cowed bootstrapped American's idea about what we should do collectively and what is right for the common welfare. Progress, not perfection. Not yet.

[arcane1]

2. To answer your question:

Yes, that's all they got

[dkf]

3. Obamacare sucks because it isn't Canadian style single payer.

It's the Heritage Foundations wet dream for a market based health insurance system.

[NoOneMan]

6. But Canadians can't choose their deductibles and copays from hundreds of plans in a marketplace!

And aren't marketplaces grand? Thats somewhere you go to buy skinny pants and hipster wear!

Instead they are stuck with a single $0 deductible/0% copay bullshit plan. I mean really, how are rich people supposed to feel special waiting in the same queues, without their fancy Platinum health care cards with fancy corporate logos on them?

[elehhhhna]

9. Ah shuddup! CN companies give their staff extra insurance.

and sick days, vaca time, SABBATICALS (!), shit like that. The richies there get special stuff. They gladly spring for the upcharges.

[ProSense]

10. Ah yes, you hate Medicare, but love "Canadian style single payer."

Yeah, right.

"It's the Heritage Foundations wet dream for a market based health insurance system."

No, it's Obamacare

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023715400

And the detractors are still not going to prevent its success.

Obamacare needs young people to sign up. And it looks like they’re starting.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023832392

[dkf]

13. Canadian single payer vs medicare? I know what I prefer.

Would you really pick medicare?

[ProSense]

16. Explain the difference. n/t

[dkf]

19. They pay taxes, no premiums and no co pays.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_(Canada)

[Hoyt]

11. Since O'care ain't perfect, we should wait another 20 years to change

anything just like when conservatives obstructed Hillarycare in early 1990s.

[1000words]

12. Folks WANTED a public service, instead they got a consumer product.

Of course the site is overloaded. We are required to buy in ... or pay a fine.

[backscatter712]

14. To be fair, the web site has some big technical problems.

Mind you, my professional opinion as a software engineer is that these are solvable problems, but there's issues caused by sloppy coding, poorly configured and networked servers, etc.

Of course, a site that works great when it has 20 users on it (all developers tinkering with the site) isn't going to work great when the load goes up to 20,000,000 users.

Now they're going to have to bring in some of the real web-development gurus to put this fire out.

Things will get better, but it'll take some time.

[Junkdrawer]

15. Best to treat the bad code as a prototype and REDO the website right....

Patch upon patch upon patch only works for small systems.

[backscatter712]

17. Part of fixing messes like this is refactoring...

Or to define the term, refactoring is cleaning up code without changing its functionality - making spaghetti code less spaghetti-like.

The business case for refactoring is to speed the pace of development, by making it easier to work with the code and track down software defects.

I'm not a believer in throwing out code and starting over unless it's a true creeping horror, living on for 50 years, written in an early dialect of COBOL...

But yeah, the geeks have a mess to clean up...

[Junkdrawer]

18. I've fixed a lot of horror shows in my day....

Here's the thing: there are error loops that tell me that the designers have violated basic things like data duplication etc.

When the core is rotten, fixes get more and more complicated.

Management is under the gun big time and I'll bet everyone is pushing massive overtime and expedient fixes. A perfect prescription for a money pit that NEVER gets better.