Saw Schumer on "This Whore" saying the words

[LaydeeBug]

Last edited Sun Oct 13, 2013, 12:04 PM - Edit history (1)

"mandatory entitlement reform" <<<------- those words. Those exact fucking words.

Really.

I am sick

Edit: to change the whore program from "Meet the Whore" to "This Whore". My mistake and correction

[berni_mccoy]

1. Context is everything.

Without context, your quote doesn't mean anything.

[LaydeeBug]

2. Please. Those words have no business with "clean CR" and you know it. nt

[berni_mccoy]

5. No, it matters what he said. The fact that you aren't giving a full quote

leads me to believe you are delivering a doosmday scenario to upset people.

[LaydeeBug]

9. Well then you certainly would be making an *assumption* now wouldn't you?

The exact quote will come when the transcripts do.

But he said it. He said those *exact* words, and he said it "like that".

You know, not like 'they're not getting mandatory entitlement reform because we aren't backing down' It was "like that". Like, "oh we'll give you mandatory entitlement reform".

Time will tell. But apparently, the Democrats have already offered it, so your sanctimony seems a bit unfounded.

Just sayin'

edit: autocorrect typo

[carolinayellowdog]

17. your attribution of nasty destructive motive based on no evidence at all leads me to believe

that another addition to the ignore list is in order

[berni_mccoy]

25. Except that I was right. He never said what the OP claimed he did

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3840783

[LaydeeBug]

31. except that you ARE wrong. He says it 2:07 in.

Thanks

[berni_mccoy]

38. Full Quote IN CONTEXT (and you had it wrong anyway, as I knew)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3840939

Please stop trying to spread fear.

[LaydeeBug]

46. Nice try. No dice. "Democrats want to do it with a mix of mandatory cuts, some entitlement..."

and some revenue."

Oh, just pretend, why don't you?

[LaydeeBug]

35. Oh, and here's another full quote for you

at the link:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023840334#post23

[Pisces]

42. There are stink bugs on this thread that are no ladies.

[LaydeeBug]

48. Well Lord knows there's some stank-ass fish. nt

[Pisces]

50. Well with all the acidification of the oceans and crazy global warming deniers a fish does the best

it can. Maybe with the implosion of the Lunatic party a fish can look forward to cleaner water!!

[LaydeeBug]

52. I certainly hope so. It might help some fish with their smelly disposition. nt

[KittyWampus]

53. is there anything that can help you posting threads with accurate quotes in context?

[LaydeeBug]

56. Is there anything that can help you undertand context?

[Ranchemp.]

3. Oh shit!

Here we go, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Our side seems to be experts on this.

[socialist_n_TN]

4. Sequester II. I'd be willing to bet that it's coming.....

And remember that Sequester I chopped domestic spending levels BELOW the infamous Ryan budget proposal. A budget proposal I might add that was resoundingly rejected by the people during the election of 2012. ALL of Paul Ryan's shit was rejected during that election.

But the political class of capitalism obviously doesn't care what the people think.

[hfojvt]

7. that seems like a very safe bet

since it seems like Senate Democrats have already offered it near as I can tell http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3812595

So huge cuts seem to already be on the table, in fact that seems to be our STARTING position for negotiation.

Just like the old days, as I believe Krugman wrote something like "If Republicans proposed a bill calling for the removal of Tom Daschle's right arm, Daschle would smile and say "We agree with Republicans on this proposal, but it should be done the Democratic way" and the Senate would pass a bill calling for the removal of Daschle's arm up to his elbow. Republicans would puff on their cigars and privately chortle that they were still going after the whole arm in conference committee."

Except that Democrats would probably fight for their own precious hides. Since Republicans are only after the arms of the poor and working class, it is that much easier to forge a "compromise" and give up 99.44% of a pound of working class flesh.

[Iggo]

6. What was the full quote?

I need verbs and stuff.

[hfojvt]

8. I believe it was

"yadda, yadda, yadda, madatory entitlement reform yadda, yadda, and just paranthetically, yadda"

[LaydeeBug]

15. when the transcripts become available, I will give it to you...

but I *promise* it was "Well we know we need mandatory entitlement reform and we want to talk about that after the government's open" Or something of that jist.

I had company.

[Roland99]

10. So, Medicare/SS (paid via payroll taxes by everyone) is an ENTITLEMENT

damnit I hate that meme and that the Dems have given in to calling it an entitlement!

[LaydeeBug]

11. "mandatory entitlement reform" My brother and nephew had stopped over so I just changed the

channel before I went nuts. He would have liked that. He is a former rejig. Now he just says he's "independent".

[socialist_n_TN]

12. Fuck it. I AM "entitled" to those programs.......

I paid into them so, by Lesus, I AM entitled to my promised return.

[SammyWinstonJack]

57. Forced payroll deductions..it's not like we had a choice to opt out so yes

WE ARE ENTITLED TO COLLECT THESES BENEFITS IN FULL!


Both parties have talking this entitlement reform BS!


Guess the Democrats will make it happen.

[grantcart]

13. Both Social Security and Medicare have mandatory solvency guidelines.

The legislation for both of these plans require the trustees to manage solvency.

When it the fund crosses into technical insolvency (more payouts expected than revenues) then mandatory cuts go into effect:

http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/budget/302633-trustees-report-set-to-reignite-social-security-medicare-debate

The annual report of the Social Security and Medicare trustees, due out Friday, will reignite the debate over how best to reform the two largest federal programs, which are running out of money.

Rising medical costs and the rapid retirement of the baby boom generation, combined with a lower birth rate for later generations, have created projected shortfalls in the programs under which current benefits are paid for by current payroll tax collection.

Last year, the trustees found that Social Security will not be able to pay its promised benefits after 2033, three years earlier than previously thought. Medicare’s hospital insurance trust fund was found to be running out of money even sooner, by 2024.

If changes are not made then both plans will face dramatic mandatory reductions in benefits.

That is the law.

Schumer is correct.

[LaydeeBug]

19. Thank you for this.

I hadn't even had my first cup of coffee when I saw that.

[carolinayellowdog]

14. what I heard was Shieffer accusing the FAR EXTREME LEFT of encouraging Obama to resist the TeaParty

whose wonderful offer coulda shoulda been accepted Thursday night, only the public opinion polls emboldened us wildeyed commie radicals to say hell no. FUCK him. Schumer didn't blink, didn't challenge the premise or characterization at all.

[LaydeeBug]

16. Oh Sheiffer has long been a rightie shill and I will readily admit that it was the very beginning

after the moment of zen on Sunday Morning. I mean, this would have been what lead it. It did not stay on long

[lostincalifornia]

26. boy am I glad I haven't watched this sh*t for years

[gulliver]

18. Run away!

The Dems are going to sacrifice Social Security and Medicare again!! Just like they did last time!!!

OMG, run, Run, RUN, RUNNNN!!!!!

[LaydeeBug]

20. Or STAND and FIGHT...since in 2011, they DID sacrifice via a Grand Bargain

but please proceed.

[socialist_n_TN]

21. Yep. That's what Sequester I was.......

The capitalists got exactly what they wanted. Domestic cuts WORSE than the Ryan budget and minimal MIC cuts.

As I said above, look out for Sequester II. I'd rather be accused of "hair on fire" than to have it happen without a fight.

[Teamster Jeff]

41. Thank God we are "winning" or we would be really screwed!

[socialist_n_TN]

47. Yep Jeff, I hate to seem so ungrateful for these "wins"......

, but for some reason I do.

[highplainsdem]

22. "Face the Nation" video here - Schumer did NOT say those words.

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50157046n

Couldn't find that quote in your OP by googling or checking Twitter, so I watched the video of Schumer's entire appearance, and he didn't say the words you claim are an exact quote.

[berni_mccoy]

24. Just what I suspected above.

OP is spreading fear.

[LaydeeBug]

30. You can "suspect" and "assume" all you want, watch and or read...

and while I hadn't had my first cuppa, and part of it was him explaining the repig stance, still he says it at 2:07.

You're welcome.

[LaydeeBug]

28. At 2:07 he says, 'DEMOCRATS WANT TO DO IT WITH A MIX OF ENTITLEMENT CUTS AND REVENUES"

Thank you for the transcript.

[berni_mccoy]

36. No, what he says is this:

"The question becomes 'how do you undo sequester?'. REPUBLICANS want to do it with entitlement cuts. That is, take entitlement cuts and put that money into undoing part of sequester. Democrats want to do it with a mix of mandatory cuts, some entitlement, and revenue increases."

You are taking what has been known all along as a proposal by Democrats and twisting it into what the Republicans want. You can't take two words, misquoted out of order and out of context, and make it into anything you want.

[socialist_n_TN]

43. What is the commonality between the positions of the Republicans......

and the positions of the Democrats? One word and that word is "cuts". How about this Chuckie and all the rest of you "sensible" Dems? NO CUTS TO ANY PROGRAM THAT BENEFITS THE WORKING CLASS AND POOR! Make it ALL revenue enhancements. Tax the fucking rich pricks that got us into this mess in the first place.

[LaydeeBug]

44. "mandatory cuts, some entitlement..." and not the bold is YOUR OWN. nt

[Oilwellian]

29. Oh, aren't you cute

What Democrats want to do is a mix of mandatory cuts, some entitlement, some revenue.

Do you really believe "Democrats want to cut entitlements" can be dispelled when quibbling over exact quotes?

[LaydeeBug]

49. No, I do think they want that

but they are sure putting it on the table.

[Oilwellian]

23. The ole bait and switch

Just when Democrats become united against the shutdown, the Third Wayers slap us in the face with entitlement reform. Again. Obama said the following in his recent press conference:

And by the way, if anybody doubts my sincerity about that, I've put forward proposals in my budget to reform entitlement programs for the long haul.

http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-10-08/politics/42817397_1_house-republicans-government-shutdown-speaker-boehner/3

Those who doubt the Third Wayers want to cut SS benefits need to take off their rose-colored glasses.

[LaydeeBug]

33. Thank you. nt

[chervilant]

27. Why do you feel the need to use a sexist term to make your point?

Welcome to my IL. You're in good company with all the other sexists, misogynists, and verbal bullies I no longer have to tolerate.

[LaydeeBug]

32. Oh, I feel honored that you would pose a question and then say that you're ignoring me

Why *ask* then?

[carolinayellowdog]

45. most of the whores I know are men

welcome to my ignore list for pointless harassment of a fellow DUer

[Whisp]

34. I didn't look at all posts to see if full context is now known but...

It's possible Shumer was saying something like this, no?:

Those fucker teabaggers want a mandatory entitlement reform but they can go fuck themselves, no way.

[LaydeeBug]

37. I *wish* because then it'd be awesome!

I had company. It was on in the background and I hadn't had my first cuppa. It was not AS BAD as I said, but it was still effing bad.

That's as mea as my culpa gets with this one.

[socialist_n_TN]

40. I don't think so. Apparently from above with a transcript......

He was complaining that the Republicans were wanting to cut gubmint spending only with cuts to the entitlement programs, whereas the reasonable Democrats wanted revenue enhancements to go along with the cuts to entitlement programs. Now in those two approaches WHAT is the one commonality? I'll give you a hint. It's CUTS TO ENTITLEMENT PROGRAMS. Greater or lesser cuts true, but still cuts.

How about this Chuckie and the rest of you neo-liberal type Dems. NO CUTS TO SOCIAL SECURITY! NO CUTS TO MEDICARE! NO CUTS TO ANY PROGRAMS THAT HELP THE WORKING CLASS AND THE POOR! Instead of cuts, how about raising taxes on the rich since they're the ones with all the fucking money!

[LittleBlue]

39. Ugggh. He said that? Makes me feel like...

[LaydeeBug]

51. Me too. I don't watch that show...it was only on because company came over

and I turned it off right away.

But what I thought I heard WAS INDEED AND IN FACT very close to was he actually said, and the quibblers are showing their ass a little bit.

[KittyWampus]

54. it's a shame you weren't paying more attention to get the accurate quote and full context.

And you showed "your ass" from the start.

It isn't a freaking "quibble" to expect accurate quotes and context.

[LaydeeBug]

55. The quote was not accurate, but the CONTEXT ABSOLUTELY WAS

you can pretend otherwise all you want.