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highplainsdem

(48,991 posts)
Sun Oct 13, 2013, 11:05 AM Oct 2013

John Boehner’s only choice: Throw the Tea Party overboard (Greg Sargent's Plum Line, WaPo)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/10/13/john-boehners-only-choice-throw-the-tea-party-overboard/

But, look, this basic dynamic has been plainly obvious for weeks: There is no compromise that would prove acceptable to both Tea Party Republicans on one side and Obama and Senate Democrats on the other. The entire Tea Party crusade has been premised on the idea that the Dem refusal to unwind Obamacare could be broken if Republicans held firm on the government shutdown long enough, because it was only a matter of time until the American people, under duress and gripped with a feverish hatred of the health care law, rise up and force Dems to capitulate. Neither of those has happened. The American people have reached the opposite conclusion — they blame Republicans for the government shutdown, and don’t want such tactics wielded as a weapon against Obamacare — and Obama and Dems have demonstrated they will not capitulate.

Tea Party Republicans faced with these twin realities are not giving ground, either. As Ron Brownstein details, they can’t, because in their view, this has become nothing less than an apocalyptic demographic and ideological struggle to prevent a national alliance of “takers” and their Democratic enablers from transforming the country into something no longer recognizably American. “Obama’s health care looms to them as the tipping point towards a permanent Democratic advantage built on dependency and demographic change,” Brownstein observes.

It now seems plainly obvious that neither Tea Party Republicans on one side, nor Obama and Senate Dems on the other, will give any ground on what they view as non-negotiable. No deal that is even marginally acceptable to both of those groups is feasible. Democrats are not capitulating to Tea Party demands; it just isn’t happening. By definition, then, there is only one way out of the crisis: Through an alliance of non-Tea Party Republicans (who have already shown a willingness to reopen the government) and Democrats. This would require House GOP leaders to allow a vote on something that is unacceptable to Tea Party conservatives, which will make them really, really angry, and to suffer the consequences.

Yet as the above anecdote indicates, even “responsible” leaders such as Paul Ryan continue to refuse to acknowledge this increasingly obvious reality, and refuse to level with the rank and file about it, no matter the consequences for the country.
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John Boehner’s only choice: Throw the Tea Party overboard (Greg Sargent's Plum Line, WaPo) (Original Post) highplainsdem Oct 2013 OP
Compromise used to be and should be now finding something the majority supports on point Oct 2013 #1
The only thing that John Boehner can do now is declare himself and his Republicans incompetent Buddha_of_Wisdom Oct 2013 #2
The non teabaggers republicans are so dense. texanwitch Oct 2013 #3

on point

(2,506 posts)
1. Compromise used to be and should be now finding something the majority supports
Sun Oct 13, 2013, 12:14 PM
Oct 2013

Not what the majority of one party supports. The only compromise the dems should give is be willing to put something up to a vote in the house. That is where the compromise needs to happen. If it can't get a majority then the pukes are the ones not compromising

 

Buddha_of_Wisdom

(373 posts)
2. The only thing that John Boehner can do now is declare himself and his Republicans incompetent
Sun Oct 13, 2013, 12:19 PM
Oct 2013

to handle government duties and force the Republicans to resign en-masse.

texanwitch

(18,705 posts)
3. The non teabaggers republicans are so dense.
Sun Oct 13, 2013, 03:34 PM
Oct 2013

They could be seen as heros standing up the to the teabaggers.

The could say look we saved the country by working with the Democrats.

Republicans are just to stupid to see the way out of this.

They could put a spin on this using fox news.

They just didn't think President Obama would stand up to them this time.

They didn't have a backup plan for getting out of this.

I think they a worried when the checks stop going out.

The phone lines to Washington will melt when that happens.

The rank and file republicans don't know what is coming.

No government, no government goodies.

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