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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSome pics I took of the "Veterans" (Tea Party) rally today
Showing their true colors in front of the White House
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The barricades torn down at the WWII Memorial
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gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)I guess it goes far.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)every single day...
Brother Buzz
(36,441 posts)'Good Old' Mr. Wilson followed Romney everywhere and visited California (read San Diego) every time Romney swung into the fine state. Wilson got a lot of ink during the ill-fated campaign, often being the only person in attendance during some whistlestops.
Remember when his truck got all burned up?
and the replacement vehicle Romney gave him:
Mitt Romney presented Jim Wilson with a fire hydrant and keys to a truck at a campaign event in Sterling, Va. Mr. Wilson, who is one of the Romney campaigns biggest fan, had his old truck destroyed by a fire last week.
Erose999
(5,624 posts)shiny vehicle. Romney probably torched that fucker himself and wrote the new truck he gave Wilson off on his taxes. The ones he's not even paying in the first place, lol.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Thanks
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)I regularly see a bigger crowd in front of the Apple store before it opens
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)It would be horrifying if it were a large crowd.
Siwsan
(26,267 posts)Kind of like most of the tea party events. All talk, little participation.
Buns_of_Fire
(17,181 posts)You'd think they'd learn by now. No self-respecting teabagger will be caught dead without a portapotty (preferably two or three) within fifteen feet of them at all times. Sphincter control is, after all, a commie plot.
Siwsan
(26,267 posts)And, I'm NOT talking about tea.
Stinky The Clown
(67,807 posts)Fucking losers.
Squinch
(50,954 posts)spanone
(135,844 posts)stupid is as the teaparty does
malaise
(269,038 posts)the workers.
Fucking stupid does not quite describe them
onethatcares
(16,169 posts)who the fck do they think is going to clean up after them and buy new cables?
Mr.Bill
(24,300 posts)would probably fill a dumpster.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)Smokers vote, too...just not as many times as those who don't.
onethatcares
(16,169 posts)I agree. But it was weird science that showed cigarette smoking causes cancer and that science was fought against every step of the way by big tobacco, so science loses in that battle with those folks.
Raine1967
(11,589 posts)They fought to overthrow the government, They fought to incite riots. They fought for the right to fly the phucking confederate flag. They fought for the right to smoke? (seriously WTF is with that 3rd picture?)
Thanks for the photos. I was thinking about going into town to watch this mess. I see that I made the right choice to stay home and hang with hubby who is brewing a 10 gallon batch of Nut Brown ale.
I hope some of these assholes pent some money on local businesses that are suffering because of the protesters' tea bagging overlords.
Patriots my ass -- NO patriot brings a confederate flag to the White House. No patriot treats a memorial with more reverence then the actual soldiers and Veterans that actually fought in said war. In this case, it's the WW2 memorial. They care about that memorial than the Vets who are facing the very real fact that they won't get the money they rightfully deserve.
Absolutely disgusting.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Raine1967
(11,589 posts)Between this today and the stupid truckers driving around the beltway this weekend, I'm glad I stayed home.
This is more illogical than the *cough* so called normal teabagger protests that happened around here a few years ago.
One of my favorites wasn't even at t a tea bag protest. It was at a parade. I think it was the Cherry Blossom festival parade a few years ago. I was in line behind some Tea party *patriots* to use the port-a-pot (BLECH, I know)
They actually had the nerve to complain that there weren't more toilets available. I rolled my eyes and looked away (cause I am not a good poker player) saying to myself in a low voice, "really"
The people behind me laughed with some sympathy and just said -- 'you too?' I just shook my head.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)I feel nauseus just looking at them.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)I did that to one if the street fundys/preachers. I just pointed and laughed. I think i scared the poor guy into smitterins
BayouBengal07
(1,486 posts)I was outnumbered so I didn't raise a stink; all I could do was shake my head.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)Yikes...
Solly Mack
(90,769 posts)Damn
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)is that they tore down the barriers yet did not get arrested. I guess only liberal protesters get that.
Solly Mack
(90,769 posts)they can blame on others.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)I count almost 20 people in that one picture.
CatWoman
(79,302 posts)no one sprung for porto potties???
louslobbs
(3,235 posts)have sprayed them with mace, tazed them, thrown them to the ground while yelling "stop resisting," beat them senseless, and finally, handcuffed and arrested them.
Lou
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)Tearing down barricades receives no police action. This place is fucked.
dawnie51
(959 posts)or did these folks not get the memo that the big money was elsewhere today?
ChangeUp106
(549 posts)(Well obviously I saw a little of the pics)
It just makes me so mad. These people are lunatics and they have very little intelligence. I don't mean that in the typical "you're stupid" insult. I mean it literally. These people are of lesser intelligence than the rest of us.
We've seen this coming for awhile. At some point these people are going to do something really stupid.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)The only thing I can say good about this bunch of traitors, is that my parents who served in WW2 and built the country up with the New Deal, are dead, didn't live to see this.
onethatcares
(16,169 posts)do away with critical thinking classes and re write text books will have a way of making people less intelligent.
Now the big thing is the CORE standards. Big money folks will be saying they can't find American workers that can think for themselves, or solve problems by themselves so they have to reach to India and central Africa to find qualified workers when they
could have funded the schools here.
THis country is getting more fucked every day. good luck on the other side.
appleannie1
(5,067 posts)enters a closed area, they should be arrested for trespassing at the very least. And excuse me, what the hell does a Confederate flag have to do with anything? He sure is not old enough to be a Civil War Vet and as a member of the Confederacy, he would not have Union rights anyway. They don't even make sense. That one vehicle would not be legal in PA as it would not pass inspection standards and would be considered a road hazard. What army fought for the right to smoke? Lunatics does not even begin to cover it.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)What a bunch of idiots.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Those who served, died or survived WW2 did not value appearance over substance. They served under the American flag, not the Confederate flag. They did not die for a memorial, but a country based on what FDR and millions of Americans believed in.
That memorial is not their legacy. This country is their legacy. These folks are filled with Paulite, Bircher, Libertarian, White Supremacist, Teahadist and every form of deceit, do not speak for our nation or that generation. They are spitting on it all.
Take a close look at them. I have warned people who think these little fascists are dying out, or that it is an older generation thing. Look at the ages there and their relative prosperity in comparison to those hurt by this shutdown and the default.
I don't think this is at all amusing or comforting. They each represent a hundred or thousand who are voting for destruction and anarchy. And they'd love to kill many of us.
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)You are spot on!
Faygo Kid
(21,478 posts)There will be death, as a dying tea party is egged on by Fox News and especially Hannity.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)RedCappedBandit
(5,514 posts)Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)About what one would expect from RW'ers.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)The same kind of seditious actions we are seeing are no different than those just before the Civil War. When it gets to literally taking a life they'll muster their forces. They're working behind the scenes, probably.
At least the executive branch will have given instructions, although a lot of it falls upon D.C. itself. It takes a lot of will and sound reason to act in these situations.
The GOP Confederates in Congress have defunded much of the operations of the District of Columbia, which is a symbol of the hated Union that defeated the South. At this time, the government of the Union army is under seige, but the sources are less clear.
The LEOs are prioritizing what they will act upon. The Lincoln Memorial was vandalized, but no one died. The Libertarian guns rights grifter Adam Kokesh did not get his way to form an army to brandish rifles in D.C. this summer.
They will take action in extreme cases. The poor woman driving to kill in D.C. got lethal force, no one else has or likely will. The video was posted in V&MM. Her vehicle was a deadly weapon and she was not going to stop.
As disturbing as these actions are, they are not isolated. They are being ginned up by MSM and RWNJ media, and they are building to a tipping point.
Klayman calls for Obama to surrender to militia forces on November 17th. With the shutdown that has weakened the morale of government, even more than the Sequester, and the default coming, since Cantor the Crook is now in charge of the HoR for all intents and purposes, the default is coming.
Even if Obama gave in, the conditions as dictated by Paul and Coburn, who say they want to 'manage catastrophe' would be to offer 41% of SS, defund the ACA, Medicare and Medicaid, affecting the lives of a 100 million of our fellows, causing them to lose their homes and it will create chaos such as not been seen since the Great Depression. At which time they will, as back then, reap the spoils of the dispossessed. Some many not know it, but millions of Americans perished in that era. This will be a hundred times worse than that for just a few simple reasons.
One, our population is so much greater. Two, most of the population is urban and not close to the land. Third, and most important, is that we do not have the same resource and natural bounty we had at time to exploit, create jobs and feed people.
The maniacs in those pictures love that, been planning for it for years and see half the country as their mortal enemy and armed themselves and practice killing them everyday, both mentally and physically. When a great many people wish death on their neighbors, there will be trouble.
What I want to know, is the opinion of DUers in the area, is do the servicemen who voted for Obama still have the federal government's back, or is a contingent of traitors within their ranks, likely to break out and do something as the RWNJs repeatedly claim?
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Reading how much they have strangled DC and the mayor basically
begging for help, it's not an exaggeration to refer to them as domestic terrorists.
The concerns you express that you highlighted, the Secret Service would
be prepared and up to speed, don't you think?
freshwest
(53,661 posts)I wonder what percentage there are, especially those who came back and were unable to get jobs. Obama has done all he could for them, but the reality is that there could be disaffected vets who blame the government for everything.
They may have just cause to hate the government, as other veterans did in unpopular wars, but they volunteered. But for some it was a forced choice due to lack of educational and economic opportunity. And Rush Limbaugh is STILL spewing his hatred on Armed Forces stations.
I'm not calling to question the loyalty of DUers who served, took an oath to protect the Constitution, but there is the dark side, the Oathkeepers, who want it all torn down for a libertarian (and theocracy is the goal) revolution to remove the government.
There is big money behind all of that, as shown in this picture, widely posted:
...The latest evidence comes in the form of this billboard recently installed inside the subway station that serves the Pentagon in Arlington, Va. The billboard was paid for by the Oath Keepers, a "patriot" group founded in 2009 not long after President Obama took office. The controversial organization, founded by a former Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) staffer and associated with former militia leaders, encourages members of the military and law enforcement to swear an oath of loyalty to the Constitution, and not necessarily to the Commander in Chief. The Oath Keepers pledge to essentially turn on the US government if they think they're being ordered to do things that they think are unconstitutional, such as, for instance, taking people's guns away.
They arrived on the scene with much fanfare and were often staples at tea party and Second Amendment rallies organized around opposition to the tyrannical Obama administration. Their ranks are filled with Birthers, Truthers, and others who see black helicopters lurking at every turn. Their highest profile associates have been people like Mike Vanderboegh, the former Alabama militia leader who urged followers to throw bricks through the windows of Democratic offices to protest the passage of healthcare reform. (Some actually did.) But the Oath Keepers have since dropped out of the limelight, the dictatorship they were preparing for never quite materializing.
But the group has reemerged with a new project, which involves billboards like the Snowden one at the Pentagon Metro station. The Oath Keepers initially set out to put up billboards around military bases to "Educate Troops About Their Oath Bound Duty to Refuse Unconstitutional Orders," and to "counter the propaganda of the domestic enemies of the Constitution," according to their website. So far this year, they've installed one near the Twenty Nine Palms Marine base in California, with plans to target Ft. Hood, in Texas, and Ft. Rucker in Alabama.
The first billboard went up last year across from Ft. Leavenworth, Kansas, in response to a retired Army colonel who enraged tea partiers and gun activists with a paper he wrote describing a hypothetical scenario in which the military might have to intervene on US soil. The hypothetical involves an "extremist militia motivated by the goals of the tea party movement" that takes over a town in South Carolina and starts an insurrection. The "tea party insurrectionists" in the paper sound a lot like the Oath Keepers, who took great offense to the paper and responded with a billboard screaming, "Colonel 'Red Coat' Benson, The Tea Party is Not the Enemy. Soldiers! Honor Your Oath. Refuse To Fire On Americans..."
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/07/oath-keepers-heart-snowden
Their piece of their intent is in itself is not that bad, and I don't give a rat's ass about Snowden. It's the Oathkeepers that have me worried. Always have, as they are part of the Christian Nationalist Movement. I've seen in Christian bullets their meetings which they fill up large auditoriums and they are not open to all. The SPLC says:
Oath Keepers to Form Civilization Preservation Teams in Anticipation of Societal Collapse
by Ryan Lenz on October 2, 2013
The Oath Keepers are going operational.
An article posted to the groups website Tuesday announced the formation of Civilization Preservation units, basely loosely on the organization of U.S. Special Forces teams, to provide community security and support during crisis but also to assist in forming and training town and county militias.
These comically named 12-person teams would consist of two communications experts, two medics, two combat engineers, two weapons experts, two operations leaders, a commander and his assistant positions that would be filled by the law enforcement officers and former military personnel who comprise the Oath Keepers. The Oath Keepers imagines that these units would be scattered across the country, working with other veterans organizations such as the VFW, American Legion and Marine Corps League, to lead communities in resistance to oppressive regimes.
More at link where it says, 'continue to full post' which details there are 30K members with reader comments. There are other stories at the link:
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/?s=oathkeepers
I don't think SPLC is into scaring people, but having seen the uptick in gun shops, Obama hate and Second Amendment Solution bumper stickers, hate radio taking over even in my area, I'll admit I'm getting a bit worried.
If the government defaults many people I know will lose their residences in November. Their loved ones who depend on SS, Medicare and Medicaid will lose their homes and care. None of this has to happen. I see very positive things happening and negative ones as well. If I thought that we'd recover after default, it'd be one thing. But I don't:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/110218177
These bastids want this. And I don't know if SPLC or Mother Jones are into scaring people with things that are not true. Sorry for the long post, guess I'm just venting here.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)It is true there exists a percentage of truly disconnected people who are
radical in their aspirations....I am not convinced they are able to mobilize
as they may imagine. I would say that when you have the Tea Party
congressmen playing loose with rhetoric and wreck less behavior combined,
you cannot be certain a loose cannon will not go off and innocents can become
a victim of said violence. I understand your concerns.
My guess is we will not see default and what bothers me is that the
strategy of the Rethugs will continue this lunacy a few more days without
fear due to the fact that the Pentagon is not part of any issue related to the
shut down, meaning the payroll...most are back at work.
My fear is more about what concessions may be on the table, it generally
is about their demands to see the poor and middle class squeezed out
even more than they are presently..which is pretty bad.
With that said, the Republicans, that brand is poison, politically...they are
screwed for 2014, imho.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)I read more about RWNJs here and in links posted to DU than I see in real life. It just makes it all the more distrubing to see the similarity and know so many in the crosshairs.
I hope we do not default, too, as for many millions of Americans it means homelessness and no chance to recover.
Thanks...
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)hootinholler
(26,449 posts)Where were the cops to kettle them?
Imagine if Occupy had done this.
BayouBengal07
(1,486 posts)and there was a line of police on horseback on Pennsylvania Ave. The protesters were shouting at the police. One guy said they should join the military, which "might make men and women out of you."
Faygo Kid
(21,478 posts)This nation is finally waking up to the horrors of these nutjobs.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)Bee.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)and I believe that the "all American" smoking van is a Toyota, too.
Just sayin'
freshwest
(53,661 posts)liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)Rancid cream, but cream, nonetheless.
2naSalit
(86,646 posts)rancid froth.
graywarrior
(59,440 posts)Cha
(297,280 posts)BayouBengal07
(1,486 posts)The guy in my picture wanted to pose with the flag in front of the White House. He then waved it above his head and cheered a bit before handing it back. So I'm not buying the meme on the right that the man in the red shirt was some kind of outlier.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Cha
(297,280 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Cha
(297,280 posts)bad link. What I get for being in a hurry. thanks for catching it and letting me know, fresh. I know you're interested beyond just the photos.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)kentuck
(111,101 posts)They would have been arrested. Code Pink?
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Is that the rational, I don't know. Certainly did not mean anything for Choi
at the time he protested...no shoving of police but still arrested.
UTUSN
(70,706 posts)Blue Owl
(50,400 posts)n/t
handmade34
(22,756 posts)so much ignorance... the photos make me sad but it is important that you take them and post them
when I was working in DC I spent as much time as I could around the Mall and loved every minute of it... I would have been too angry to take photos
Contrary1
(12,629 posts)the more of their precious tax dollars required to clean up after them. Unwittingly supporting socialism.
A scathingly brilliant strategy.
ZRT2209
(1,357 posts)Sugarcoated
(7,724 posts)Obama won, he's the President