those tea party fucks were totally out of control today

[cali]

pushing and shoving cops in front of the White House, vandalizing government property and stealing it, trespassing.

It totally pisses me off that they were treated with kid gloves when left wing protestors get roughed up and arrested en masses even when they're just linking arms and singing.

fucking disgusting double standard and the argument that it's "better optics" is bullfuckingshit.

[trueblue2007]

1. vandalizing government property and stealing it, trespassing. WHAT???????????????

WHY WERE THESE PEOPLE NOT ARRESTED!!!

[NewJeffCT]

42. the police were probably afraid

they'd get raked over the coals like the IRS was for targeting conservatives, even though it was a manufactured scandal.

[Turbineguy]

52. "It was a manufactured scandal"

This was why it was smart not to engage and arrest. You don't arrest Veterans. The people doing the pushing and shoving were being used. Fellow travelers or useful idiots as they used to be known in another age.

[PatrynXX]

120. likely assumption would be...

Riot Police thought someone might have a real gun unlike OWS protesters that certainly don't. big question. did they have a permit for this protest?? not that they need one on argument but did they?? that would be a double standard

[ZombieHorde]

2. Where did you hear about this?

Will you please share a link.

[cali]

7. there are several threads with links right on GD

and I just saw video on ABC nightly news of the assholes shoving cops outside the White House where they had dumped the barricades they stole from the WWII and Lincoln Memorials when they pushed through and removed them.

there are stories in every major outlet about it.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

29. Just post the links, pls. Not in the top twenty GD threads at this time. Maybe titles are obscure?nt

[cali]

44. here

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/crowd-veterans-supporters-storm-world-war-ii-memorial-washington-article-1.1484165

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/veterans-protest-closure-of-monuments-and-memorials/2013/10/13/adaf699c-342e-11e3-be86-6aeaa439845b_story.html

[Bernardo de La Paz]

50. Thanks. nt

[d_r]

79. ...so.ok..so

the people who caused the government shut down are now complaining that the government is shut down. ok.

[greiner3]

98. From the Post story;

"U.S. Park Police estimated there were 100 to 200 protesters and said there were no arrests."





Poor Sarah P (Standing front and center for one pic

So many people they could have filled a room at the local Motel 6, and still have the bathroom empty for, well, you know...

Can anyone say 'Schadenfreude'?

When you throw a protest, THROW A PROTEST

Just in time for Halloween, something TRULY SCARY!

[LAGC]

3. OWS gets the pepper-spray to the face, T-baggers get the red carpet rolled out for them.

Only in America.

[reflection]

15. EXACTLY. n/t

[ThomThom]

59. I don't think OWS were pepper sprayed in DC

the cops in DC deal with protesters everyday and take it stride, other cities have no experience and go over the top
with that said I think there was law breaking and should have been some arrests today maybe not the double amputee but pushing officers, climbing the fence and removing the barricades yes

[AnotherMcIntosh]

68. .

[chervilant]

123. Might want to do a wee bit of research

before you post...

[Blue_Tires]

116. Because the teabaggers have big money with a lot of influence backing them up

[lostincalifornia]

4. Today? Those assholes are out of control everyday

[hootinholler]

5. I hope there's video of them shoving cops

and the cops doing nothing. That shit would go viral.

[cali]

9. I just saw it on the ABC nightly news. the cops were pushing back

but as far as I can discern, no arrests have been made. there should have been mass arrests including fuckwads Palin, Lee and Cruz who were inciting the crowd. Last week at a pro immigration (peaceful) demonstration, 8 dem house reps were arrested along with a 100 others for refusing to disperse.

grrr.

[Buddha_of_Wisdom]

19. They should have arrested Lee, Cruz and Palin and charge them with inciting violence and

facilitation.

Remand them, and no priveleges granted - meaning no telephone, TV, press, fluffers, etc...

[arcane1]

32. "Refusing to disperse" vs "not even being asked to disperse." Funny how that works.

[mountain grammy]

106. Yeah, amazing isn't it?

[AAO]

102. Most of the "cops" I saw were wearing bicycle helmets!

The left gets riot control police, the right get bicycle law enforcers! UnbeFUCKinglievable!

[Glimmer of Hope]

10. Local news video:

At the bottom of this page, following the Palin video, there is a video of some out of control nonsense:

[link:http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Vets-Plan-Rally-at-World-War-II-Memorial-227574101.html|

[kentuck]

20. They had the cops backed up against the fence...

They were scared and were ready to fight back.

[hootinholler]

25. Looks like they had someone to arrest and then let him escape

The guy in the white sweatshirt.

Oh, and fuck you NBC for the 30 second spot you forced me to wait through for a 2 minute video.

[Voice for Peace]

94. also, seems quite a bias in their reporting.. very tender toward the barricade removers

[Spitfire of ATJ]

71. Here's the video....

http://www.nbcnews.com/video/nbc-news/53271028#53271028

[ChangeUp106]

24. How pathetic are the people commenting on that site

Every news website is loaded with conservative morons who leave comment after comment. They all do it with Facebook accounts too. I swear none of them work.

[rwsanders]

46. I believe some are paid, or are using software I heard about recently that allows 1 person to...

manage several user accounts.
I've called a few on it, one was on a subject that I actually knew something about (the dolphin die offs on the east coast) and he was quickly over his head. But enough petty boasting, the accounts share a few common features:
You will usually see a first and last name.
Some of the photos look eerily the same as far as lighting, position of the subject, etc.
They are usually the first to post.
Full of false "factoids" they are eager to post.
The reason for this was posted recently on Scientific American as the reasoning for disabling their user comment feature. Because the agressive comments make uninformed readers doubt the veracity of an article even if it is scientifically valid.
LA Time recently dropped comments from climate deniers for the same reason.

I thing part of it is the wealthy right wingers are seeking to control the discussion on the internet the way they control the MSM.

Very annoying.

[LittleGirl]

61. I would love to get hired to do that

and see how it works behind the scenes. One thing about conservatives, they are suckers for Jesus. Their hatred knows no bounds.

[rwsanders]

121. Well I think most of them will hear from Him "depart from me I never knew you"...

They don't understand who they are claiming to follow.

[chervilant]

124. Worth noting, too, is the fact

that there are entirely too many derisive, divisive, hate-mongering, fear-mongering, sarcastic, and bombastic 'discussants' posting on the internet.

[Emit]

6. I agree cali and had same thoughts as I was reading and watching videos. On a related note,

I also think what Lee, Palin and Cruz are doing is dangerous.

[orpupilofnature57]

13. Promoting idiocy among idiots isn't dangerous, as long as

sane people don't give them credence .

[Buns_of_Fire]

22. Incitement is the sort of thing that normally gets one arrested.

And Lee and the Cruzer couldn't claim immunity, since it wasn't in the performance of their official duties (whatever they are).

Palin? Lock her up and feed her fish heads, for all I care.

But, unfortunately, it would take a LEO with iron intestines to slap the cuffs on their sorry asses. Or on their sorry wrists, wherever they'd fit.

[onenote]

88. "normally"? how often do you think people are arrested for incitement?

The answer is hardly ever. Why? Not because idiots like Cruz and Palin and the rest of the moron crowd are anything other than disgusting POS's. Its because the Constitution erects a very high bar for when incitement occurs.

[VanillaRhapsody]

67. you mean dangerous like putting gun sight crosses on politicians they disagree with?

looking at you Sarah Palin...

[Emit]

73. Exactly.

Here's Cruz:

"Two weeks ago the President of the United States signed a written veto threat. He said, "If you open the memorial, I will veto it."

Cruz is just stirring the pot.

Video at this link at bottom of page. Cruz speaks at about the 35s mark:

http://www.wtop.com/959/3479186/Crowd-storms-World-War-II-Memorial

[VanillaRhapsody]

81. How do you sign a veto "threat"?

You don't SIGN anything until you have something on your desk TO veto!

What a maroon...Harvard are you proud of yourself for graduating this nimrod? He is so surprised you all did that...he still wears his Harvard ring just to remind them that you graduated this hubcap from your school!

[NuclearDem]

8. Difference: Teabaggers are useful idiots for the 1%

Occupy is a thorn in their side. Hence the radically different treatment.

Also, it would look really bad if a bunch of middleaged white people got arrested, but it looks great to brutalize anyone else.

[RainDog]

28. They're a christo-fascist political movement

they want to create martyrs for the cause.

...and this is all related to the Value Voters b.s. that ends today.

[The Wizard]

101. winner (NT)

[mountain grammy]

108. Yep.

[flamingdem]

11. Then the story was reported on CNN as if it really mattered, politically

instead of being the work of hooligans.

[ScreamingMeemie]

12. They are pushing the unpaid public servants (thanks to Cruz etal.) who are keeping them

safe. They have absolutely no regard for our country.

[Buddaman]

14. Couldn't agree more...

I think it's pretty distasteful....Hopefully there's lot's of footage and photo's for the media (for what it's worth). It's (not) good publicity for Repukes tho'

[FarCenter]

16. Memo to Occupy: Don't stay in one place....

Rally at World War II Memorial Ends at White House

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Vets-Plan-Rally-at-World-War-II-Memorial-227574101.html

It's about 500 feet from the Memorial to the SW corner of the White House fence.

[NYC_SKP]

17. We know who they are and their bunks at FEMA Camp 7 are being readied today.

[hootinholler]

21. Gravel Pits???

WTF?

[NYC_SKP]

30. Oh crap.

Those should have been labeled, "Play Areas".

Our regular mapmaker is out due to the shutdown.

[d_r]

80. awesome job comrade

[Erose999]

92. Gravel pits are too cushy for them. Send them to the salt mines.

[malaise]

18. I'm sorry they didn't try to scale the WH fence

They would have been in jail or in the hospital by now.

Good point about the difference in treatment. No pepper spray here.

[Historic NY]

23. teabaggers clash with police...

http://www.nbcnews.com/video/nbc-news/53271028#53271028

[marble falls]

26. you mean they weren't corraled and tear gassed? They weren't arrested on charges everybody....

knew weren't going to stick, that were going to be tossed with out with out a doubt? Weren't curbed? Beaten, knocked over, tasered, shot with rubber bullets or assault weapon rounds and wounded, maimed or killed? They weren't? Then they weren't misidentified as Occupy.

Were any of the Teabillies going armed?

[gopiscrap]

27. I was thinking that also

if it were Democrats you know there would have been arrests

[melody]

31. How many were there? And how many were GOP operatives? n/t

[hexola]

33. I think this says it all...

[TDale313]

35. They're just fuckin' with us now, aren't they?

Please tell me that's the case. No one can be *that* stupid, right? Right? Sigh.

[hexola]

36. ...and an apostrophe s!!!

[TDale313]

39. Oh, alway's

If a word end's in an "s" it must need an apostrophe. It i's known.

[landolfi]

84. And I imagine there were probably enought people there

to make teeth for a whole mouth!

[lordsummerisle]

37. Lol n/t

[ScreamingMeemie]

38. I'm surprised they didn't use quotations for "Veteran's"

[hexola]

41. Ask and ye shall receive...

[ScreamingMeemie]

62. Ha!

[hootinholler]

40. The mis-spelled defund too!

Yes, I know for certain there are many who think that our is are.

[BlueJazz]

43. Ugh!

[hexola]

45. Getting closer!!!

[grantcart]

48. They noticed people taking pictures and changed the spelling?

[grantcart]

47. *snorpft*

I didn't pay $ 2 for that Monster to shoot through my nose.

[NuclearDem]

83. The revolution will not be spellchecked

[WilliamPitt]

91. The apostrophe-s is what makes that art.

It's there.

[Blaukraut]

34. armed revolution is the teabaggers' wet dream. Better get used to escalating incidences n/t

[backscatter712]

49. How many of these mouthbreathers showed up?

Must have been quite an effort for them to ride out on their Rascal scooters...

[texanwitch]

51. I was waiting to hear that a tea bagger was carrying a gun.

I hope this never happens.

[backscatter712]

53. Brooks Brothers Riot?

I'm betting that half of the scumfucks showing up would turn out to be paid operatives.

[JCMach1]

65. +1000

[Bernardo de La Paz]

66. Three Stooges Riot: Cruz, Palin, and Mike Lee.

With a scene-stealing cameo by paid Koch operative Klayman:

"I call upon all of you to wage a second American nonviolent revolution, to use civil disobedience, and to demand that this president leave town, to get up, to put the Quran down, to get up off his knees, and to figuratively come out with his hands up," said Larry Klayman of Freedom Watch, a conservative political advocacy group.

[drm604]

54. I'd love to know how this was organized and by whom.

It's way too convenient that it ends up looking like veterans and their supporters against the police. Whoever organized this would have loved to have had some video of police attacking and arresting veterans. Still, anyone acting illegally should have been arrested.

[KurtNYC]

104. they wanted images of veterans angry at the Whitehouse and

they got them. you gotta give them credit for choreography -- THEY shut down the gov then blame others.

[Lint Head]

55. I am a peaceful person but I will fight for the Constitution and if I was there there would be a

confrontation. I do not tolerate terrorism wrapped in religion and carrying a flag. These pricks are fascists from the word go and need to be dealt with.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

76. With the contempt the Right has for Muslim Martyrs they sure are eager for another Horst Wessel...

I suppose Toby Keith will write the new National Anthem.

[Lint Head]

85. If this crap keeps up these cowards will regret what they started.

They are too cowardly for a Horst Wessel type to even happen. It's like the bully in school. He won't quit until you punch him in the mouth
I was bullied and beaten up as a child. The very moment I stood up for myself and said "No more. It's over!" it stopped.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

87. It's classic to provoke and then claim the status of victim....

To this day there are those in the South who believe the North attacked them.

[AngryOldDem]

56. They shut shit down and then bitch about it.

And yes, the wire cutters (or whatever they were) at the barricades WAS vandalism, and entering closed property WAS trespassing. And from what I saw, some of the protesters deserved arrest. But they get high fives and wet kisses from Palin and Cruz.

The arrogance and flat-out stupidity of these people is stunning -- and frightening.

[fasttense]

95. Tea Baggers are Very Hitler-esque

They create a crisis then go and protest that same crisis.

Tea Baggers - 1 DC wimpy Cops - 0

[zbdent]

57. Merely touching a cop

is considered "assault".

Of course, that would have zero weight when it comes to smearing Democrats. "Veterans vote Republican!" is the mantra.

Plus, the cops don't like cameras around. The Fox camera crews probably make the police far less likely to even get in the way of a bused-in veteran ...

[AnotherMcIntosh]

70. Merely touching a cop can result in this:

[Justice]

58. I saw two large confederate flags. What veteran would carry a confederate flag?

[yesphan]

105. People who wanted to get

military training. They Defend the Stars and Stripes just for the training. Their true allegiance is to defend the
Stars and Bars.

[caseymoz]

60. Don't forget Cruz, et al were there.

It does help prevent arrest and police abuse when a Senator or Representative is endorsing your protest with their presence. That's what Occupy needed for their safety.

Frankly, I would find it somewhat funny if the monument were vandalized like crazy tonight because those idiots took down the barriers.

[ScreamingMeemie]

63. Tell that to Representatives Crowley, Rangel etal.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/09/us/8-lawmakers-arrested-at-immigration-protest.html?_r=0

It truly depends upon the letter after those names.

[kiranon]

64. Shock troops for the Tea Party advance on the government

is what it looks like. IMHO they want to create fear in the minds of more moderate Republicans and the rest of the country. What they cannot win through the regular legislative process they will try to win through extra/anti Constitutional means. Pure propaganda but dangerous because their base and others believe in this orchestrated nonsense.

[texanwitch]

69. I take them serious.

They maybe stupid but that makes them more dangerous.

I am afraid it will only get worse for awhile.

[texanwitch]

90. They would called brown shirts in another time.

Will it take cop getting hurt for something to happen.

[Initech]

72. They are a truly disgusting, classless bunch of assholes.

The sooner they go away the better.

[blkmusclmachine]

74. Lefties are a threat to the 1%. And Teabaggers work for the 1%. That's explains why the Lefties are

roughed up and arrested, but the Teabaggers get flowers and candy.

[zappaman]

75. I wonder if Rachel Maddow will notice? N/t

[dionysus]

112. if only we had a real investigative journalist, instead of that chattering chatterer maddow...

[Demo_Chris]

77. I am pleased to see the DC police acting cautiously here...

I would love nothing more than to see these jerks arrested (those who deserve it at any rate), but this is not the correct time for emotion. Any police action directed at these provocateurs will be used by the right to incite more knucklheads to join in and thus sidetrack a debate that they are losing.

[JCMach1]

78. Just watched the raw video from NBC on Roku, deliberate provocation today

Police and journalists outnumbered the police who were pushed against a fence. One teahadist deliberately assaulted an officer.

[Rex]

82. But but...the cops were macing the shit out of them

oh wait that is only OWS protests where they know it is unarmed pacifists.

[mountain grammy]

109. Truly and utterly disgusting...

riot police menacing peaceful protests and allowing a few teabaggers to pull their crap.

[FirstLight]

86. i am 100% right there with ya.

OWS got the shaft, brutalized and profiled by DHS, and these FUCKS have a Klan rally outside the WH...

[randome]

97. OWS had months of non-interference. This is the same and yet it isn't.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.[/center][/font][hr]

[spanone]

89. no shit. unbelievable.

[Incitatus]

93. Is there video of them shoving cops and the cops doing nothing?

link?

[randome]

96. At least they changed the conversation.

Who could argue with that?
[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.[/center][/font][hr]

[The Wizard]

99. Nazis, but without the snappy uniforms (NT)

[Johnny Ready]

100. Grasping at straws now trying to invoke the ex military to support them

in their efforts to remain relevant will only cost them in the long run. Great title by the way.

I think it may be an insult to all who have served the country to see such an obvious manipulation of an opportunity for face time. Some very "beautiful" photo opportunities, as if the Republicans now hope they have found their ticket, Palin and Cruz.

[ctsnowman]

103. Exactly!

[Coyotl]

107. They are trying to provoke a revolution. NEVER feed these trolls.

[nolabels]

110. That's an understatment as pertaining to "NEVER feed those trolls"

[ZRT2209]

111. where's that security guard with the mace?

[bobclark86]

113. Well, what else are you going to do?

You want to give cops free reign to do horrible things? How about we just shoot them? That always works out...



WE ARE BETTER THAN THEM. DO NOT STOOP TO THEIR LEVEL. It's like (at a different level, obviously, but still similar to) the assholes posting photochopped pics of Cruz with Confederate flags.

WE ARE BETTER THAN THEM. If you stoop, you will LOSE. Period.

[JEFF9K]

114. Yet conservatives always say that ...

... Teabaggers behave great and that Occupiers don't.

[libodem]

115. Yep

They suck!


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[EC]

117. All to get closer to an "open air" monument

that anyone can see from the barriers which are likely there to protect the United States from a liability lawsuit if one of those yoyos falls and breaks something. What idiots.

[raging moderate]

118. They still left that superfluous apostrophe in "veterans" - a sure sign of poor verbal skills!

You can't repair a lifetime of willful arrogant ignorance in a minute!

[raging moderate]

119. Say, should we call somebody about this?

Or email somebody? I have some time today! I already called and emailed my Republicon Senator Kirk and Republicon Representative Hultgren!

[barnabas63]

122. Wasn't it this weekend when all that happened?? nt

[11 Bravo]

125. Yup, if that had been an OWS demonstration, the tasers would have had to be re-charged ...

at least twice, and they would have run out of pepper spray.