Once again, Obama gets it.

[Mass]

http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/10/14/20958883-obama-on-gop-crises-this-is-not-normal

"I know you're frustrated by what you see in your nation's capital right now. But because it's easy to get lost in or give up on the political back-and-forth, I want you to remember: this is not normal. Our government is closed for the first time in 17 years. A political party is risking default for the first time since the 1700s. This is not normal. That's why we have to put a stop to it. Not only because it's dangerous, but because it saps everyone's faith in our extraordinary system of self-government. And that hurts us all."

And, as Steve Benen reminds us, this one is on Boehner

Except for Newt Gingrich in 1995, no one has ever shut down the government as a threat to get something they want. And except for John Boehner in 2011, nobody has ever threatened to breach the debt ceiling as a threat to get something they want. That's because it's basically nuclear chicken, threatening to destroy the economy unless you get your way. It's unthinkable. [...]

Yes, it is not normal, but it is also dangerous because it does the GOP beading. It saps people's confidence in their government.

[Laelth]

1. k&r for the truth.

It's just not cool to muck with the full faith and credit of the United States.

-Laelth

[TheMastersNemesis]

2. The Media Rightly Criticized Gingrich. The MSM Is Protecting "Boner" This Time

They are using false equivalency to give him cover.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

16. probably because at the time of newtski, media wasn't yet

the sole property of evil people like the Kocks and Murdererock, and lazy journalism/newsfotainment/lies/irrationality/hyperbole/blatant propaganda wasn't QUITE as normalized, being deeply embedded in everyday life, as it is now.

[nolabels]

26. Yea, but i don't think the people will be protecting MSM this time either

Have you looked at their #'s lately? At some level most everybody knows how they are being lied to by those fucks

[abelenkpe]

3. The right has been trying to undermine people's confidence in the government for years

This is just an extreme incarnation of their views.

They relish the thought that they have the power to destroy at this point. My libertarian/teanutty relatives are enjoying the current shenanigans. They're sick. Hope the country finds a way out of this mess.

[daybranch]

6. ObamaCare- how wonderful that sounds

A democratic Presidents name on a program that will win more and more support for the Government and for democrats.
The republican leaders cannot stop this conscious changing revolution. Bye Bye Repubs. Democrats are delivering.
You cut jobs and hurt economic security. We expand economic security and make jobs .Repubs cannot win.
Thank you President Obama for Obama Care. Our people, and our country need it!!!

[Coyotl]

4. There are forces who want to break up the USA and make off with the 50% public land and oil wealth

And we see them, Big Oil, Inc., at work controlling the Republican Party.

[hue]

9. Yes exactly. This is all about corporate control of raw commodities within & outside our counrty.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

17. yep. n/t

[dotymed]

5. If any other entity

shut down our corporate government and/or threatened our universal credit worthiness, America would deem them terrorists and
kill them.
When "we the people" participate in acts of civil disobedience, we are usually beaten and incarcerated. Exactly like a "tin pot
dictatorship does to its' citizens.

Since this "end of America's decent side of government (regulators and average people) shutdown and threatened economic implosion" is mainly corporate sponsored idiot "politicians". We go along.

Wake up Americans, if we are going down, let's go with a roar.

[Myrina]

7. +1

n/t

[hue]

8. Re/Teapukes are playing with fire & burning already but too stupid to realize it.

[L0oniX]

10. "people's confidence in their government" LMFAO

[Spitfire of ATJ]

25. That was written for the ages,...nobody NOW buys it.

[Liberalynn]

11. I was born in 1962.

Have not obviously lived through all the crisis that faced our country but have seen my share.

Yet somehow I always had faith that we as a Country would get through them because even though we have always had widely differing opinions you could always count on that when our backs were at the wall, somehow we would bridge those disagreements and come to together for the good of our nation, no matter how uneasy and temporary such a truce would prove to be in the long run because the majority of people's 1st priority was the good of the country as a whole.

We would always fall back on the common sense wisdom of people like the Adams, Jeffersons, Frankilins, Lincolns, Kings, Roosevelts and Kennedy's of this nation.

I have no such belief any more.

I blame Ronald Wilson Reagan who fostered the notion of as long as you and your family have got what you need screw everybody and everything else because it is not about your country it is alll ABOUT YOU AND YOU ALONE.

The seeds that he sewed have now come to their inevitable fruiton.

"A Nation Divided Against Itself Cannot Stand" Lincoln "We must, indeed, all hang together or, most assuredly, we will all hang seperately." Franklin

I have no faith this time that we are going to be able to solve this, the damage has already been done. JMHO.

I stand ready to be proven wrong though and I hope I am.

[Skittles]

12. I don't know what made him finally get it

but I am pleased as all f***

[winter is coming]

13. I just hope he hangs onto it with both hands. n/t

[Amonester]

15. "threatening to destroy the economy unless you..."

"threatening to destroy the economy unless you..."

cave in, and let them destroy the economy with their irresponsible ideology, I'd say

[BlancheSplanchnik]

18. massive kick, giant rec. n/t

[Uncle Joe]

19. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, Mass.

[obxhead]

20. I want everyone to remember this month

the next time our government talks about "bringing Democracy" to a foreign country by force.

[libdem4life]

21. Call me cynical, but our "democracy" usually comes with a new military base and air rights attached.

[blkmusclmachine]

22. So much for 11-Dimensional Chess, yes?

[Beartracks]

23. Sapping people's confidence -- isn't that what terrorists try to do?

Just sayin.'

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[Spitfire of ATJ]

24. Fuck with Social Security and you'll have little old ladies dissolving styrofoam meat trays in gas.

[Gothmog]

27. This is not normal

The GOP have provoke a crisis without a good reason

[AnotherMcIntosh]

28. Let's hope that he hangs on to the concept that we understood when we voted for Democrats in 2008.

None of us in 2008 wanted for him to give de facto immunity to operly-admitted Republican war criminals and appoint influential Republicans to high-level positions.

We voted for Democrats because we wanted Democrats.

He "gets it"? Let's hope so.