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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf you could not live in the USA, where would you live, and why ?
Canada springs to mind for me, the healthcare system and its similarities to the USA.
HeiressofBickworth
(2,682 posts)but there have been so many changes I don't think I'd do either. If I had the money, I live on Malta. They speak English, close to the mainland of Europe, weather pretty nice all the time. Ain't cheap, however.
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AsahinaKimi
(20,776 posts)BUT if i had the money... Moorea, TAHITI would be wonderful.
steve2470
(37,461 posts)geckosfeet
(9,644 posts)How expensive can it be to live off grid in a hut in the rain forest?
on edit - then again maybe Sicily, southern Italy or a Greek island.
zappaman
(20,607 posts)Just did not want to leave.
Palau is also beautiful.
Kennah
(14,451 posts)Rochester
(838 posts)Australia - too hot
New Zealand - earthquakes
Paka
(2,760 posts)But then I am a big Francophile.
With my limited budget I live in Thailand with affordable dental and health care with an amazing low cost of living for a very high quality of life.
IndyJones
(1,068 posts)JCMach1
(27,849 posts)in some sleepy mountain village...
Lucky Luciano
(11,370 posts)RainDog
(28,784 posts)JCMach1
(27,849 posts)View from the castle in Vianden, LX
Twilight time in Vianden
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Lucky Luciano
(11,370 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)It's not the paradise some think it is, anymore. Nice people, though.
Bermuda? Bahamas? BVI? Or maybe somewhere on the edge...like the substantially depopulated island of Montserrat....I've always wanted to learn more about volcanoes...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montserrat
RFKHumphreyObama
(15,164 posts)So right wing that he'll make Sarah Palin look like Paul Wellstone
Hopefully the Greens will still hold the balance of power in the Senate so they'll prevent him inflicting too much damage
FLAprogressive
(6,771 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)Sen. Walter Sobchak
(8,692 posts)It is a completely schizophrenic place - a confused hybrid of Mediterranean France and suburban California but I am quite taken with it.
longship
(40,416 posts)Finland is the most independent but maybe Sweden would be a more practical choice --- better climate, too.
On the other hand Australia has much to offer. It's a beautiful continent. Aussie's have a wonderful sense of humor. And there's always "footie" (Aussie rules football).
Note: English is spoken by a vast number of people in many countries. In countries in northern Europe many people are trilingual.
deutsey
(20,166 posts)HubertHeaver
(2,526 posts)For the good beer.
mikeytherat
(6,829 posts)Think about it more and more each day, actually.
mikey_the_rat
Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)I have never been there but, on average, they seem to value social harmony to the same degree as myself. I realize exceptions occur there and all places have their issues but I just sense I would be more comfortable there than anywhere else.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)at least when we visited several years ago.. heavenly beautiful place, where they still
serve high tea in the afternoon. And, only a couple hour flight from US
Oldfolkie
(51 posts)Are you going to work or lie on the beach?
I lived in Japan seventeen years. Went there at age 52, Made good money teaching English, but it is a country for younger foreigners. And, the Japanese are difficult to befriend and don't care if you are there or not.
However, it is almost a cliche that it can be a candy store for young guys for a couple years. I had several fine girlfriends at my age and married one.
I am now 75 and living in the Philippines the last six years on a retiree visa. Suits me fine, as I have pensions and a little savings and the Phils are cheap.
My second choice was Greece. It might be worth investigating as economical due to its current financial situation.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)I'm surprised that you were able to meet someone at 52 or older, however, since by that age most foreign men have fallen off the radar.
a la izquierda
(11,856 posts)it's my second home and where I research. My husband would give biking tours.
I'd also like to live anywhere in northern Europe. I've never been, but friends and family assure me I'd love it.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)PCIntern
(26,365 posts)fantabulous place...
greymattermom
(5,788 posts)Both of my daughters are dual citizens, and the youngest wants to move back to Toronto some day.
Vinca
(50,731 posts)the south of France looks really, really nice. Realistically, we're close to Canada, husband has dual citizenship, so we'd probably go somewhere in the Maritimes.
steve2470
(37,461 posts)(Wyoming) Doomsday bill moves forward, minus the aircraft carrier
Luciferous
(6,171 posts)If money wasn't an issue, maybe Belize or New Zealand.
Atman
(31,464 posts)Why? I have family there; cost of living is wicked cheap; have you seen the movie "The Beach," with Leo DiCaprio? It was filmed there...freakin' paradise. I've visited once, and have been wanting to go back ever since.
newfie11
(8,159 posts)Beautiful!!!! Also a little different
Stinky The Clown
(68,292 posts)Its where my family is from. I never lived there but when I visit I feel like I belong.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,198 posts)At least I wonder, sometimes...............
Javaman
(62,919 posts)that is if I could support myself.
mac56
(17,597 posts)Yes, I realize Harpo is Bush North.
meow2u3
(24,878 posts)I'm a big Lusophile.
frylock
(34,825 posts)for stuff like this
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)particularly western Canada which is most like Alaska. Actually, I'd be fine with the US selling Alaska to Canada. Please. With our resources, we should command a healthy selling price and help with the national deficit.
Lydia Leftcoast
(48,217 posts)I speak the language, could find free-lance work there, and have lots of friends there, plus I've lived there before and know how things work.
The obstacle is the residency visa. You have to have a job offer, a lot of money upfront, Japanese ancestry, or a Japanese spouse. I qualify on none of these factors.
oldhippie
(3,249 posts)....., that you can't just decide to move to and live in most countries just because you want to. You need a visa, or a job, or some other requirements. A lot of folks in the USA that have not traveled much abroad don't realize that there are restrictions in most countries.
I'm not even sure I could go back to Taiwan, where my wife is from.
Snake Alchemist
(3,318 posts)HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)I'm basically happy where I am. Everywhere sucks at times to the people living there. We could just play musical chairs every ten years - pick a country and grab some wood. If you're left out, you're SOL - go to Antarctica. Nah, wouldn't be fair to the penguins.
taught_me_patience
(5,477 posts)Singapore
Canada (Vancouver)
New Zealand
Germany
For retirement:
Belize
Thailand
Phillipines
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)It is beautiful, the people are mellow and easygoing, and it's about as far away as possible from the open-air lunatic asylum this country is becoming.
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)Visited there twice and wished that I could stay.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)Spent one month there in 1971 when I was in the US Navy. I loved everything about that island, especially the people!
stuntcat
(12,022 posts)because it's incredibly beautiful (for now, I mean) and that's where some of my ancestors are from, also it's SO beautiful!!! Oh did I already say that?
pink-o
(4,056 posts)I've checked out Croatia (really on the Adriatic, but not a big dif) some of the Greek Islands, South of France, Malta, Spain....but NOTHING, seriously ****NOTHING**** beats Italy. Truly my favorite place on the globe. I'd choose to live on the coast outside of Rome, around the town of Fumicino or a little bit south (Sorrento's not exactly a hole, either!) Then there's Amalfi, or Santa Margherita up north, and there is no place on earth like Venice.
I do know the country is a hot mess, the corruption from the top makes us look like petty larceners. But none of that puts a single dent in my love for that big ole boot in that beautiful, historic sea.
Aw, crap. Now I wanna go immediately!
Devil_Fish
(1,664 posts)Better standard of living for the 99% as well.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)Or possibly Sydney.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Mister Ed
(6,261 posts)I've never seen anyplace more beautiful than the Bernese Oberland. Even the cows are pretty! And I've still never figured out where they hide their trash.
Snake Alchemist
(3,318 posts)craigmatic
(4,510 posts)Health care systems would be the main reason along with their more leftist politics.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)It might be a bit pricey, but I liked the shopping and restaurants and Vancouver is a ferry ride away, or you could slip back into the USA to Seattle now and then for whatever you feel you need from the USA.
However, I think, in spite of all its problems, the Greek islands call to me as well.
ErikJ
(6,335 posts)Coincidentally this is is the headline story today on Intl Living homepage.
Enjoy a Comfortable Quality of Life in Europe
http://internationalliving.com/2012/03/enjoy-a-comfortable-quality-of-life-in-europe/
And IL rates Ecuador the best place to retire in the world. It has everything plus very cheap living. $600 a month is good enough for comfortable living.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)cyglet
(529 posts)and I absolutely will if my job goes to pot.
shcrane71
(1,721 posts)bermudat
(1,329 posts)Very expensive to live, but breathtakingly beautiful.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)I've been up, I've been down, I've been all around.
Yeah, I'm nobody, and I came from nowhere.
I have toys, a view out my window, a job I love, and the right to speak my mind about the President of my country as long as it's complimentary.
Gotta love that.
steve2470
(37,461 posts)Just a thought experiment
limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)Bermuda comes to mind.
guitar man
(15,996 posts)pokerfan
(27,677 posts)Sisaruus
(718 posts)Best place to live as per Newsweek. Plus I'm an introvert and it is a nation of introverts so I'll fit right in. And since all 4 grandparents were Finnish immigrants, I have lots of family there.
Bucky
(55,334 posts)Beautiful beaches, stable economy, and many of the locals speak English.
steve2470
(37,461 posts)MattSh
(3,714 posts)Since I've been here over six years now.
Way affordable compared to NJ, but only if you have some savings when you arrive. Otherwise, you'll need to make it on local wages.
MrScorpio
(73,693 posts)belcffub
(595 posts)still waiting for those moon colonies they promised us... oh yeah... and my flying jetsons car...
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)NNN0LHI
(67,190 posts)People who travel a lot and I trust have told me this is one of the most beautiful places to live on earth.
Don
WilmywoodNCparalegal
(2,654 posts)and my pets and husband. He could even find work in his specialized field. I asked him many times to work with headhunters to find a position in Italy... anywhere in Italy is fine, though I'm from a north-central city that is very liberal and cosmopolitan (but with a super high cost of living).
If money were no object, Tahiti, Moorea or Bora Bora would do... I wonder how easy it would be to live there as a EU passport holder??? (anyone know?)
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)Canada because they have cool cities and outrageously beautiful scenery when you want to get out of town. England or Italy because of the museums, and you can get to damn near anywhere else in Europe by train.
Jennicut
(25,415 posts)My mother's entire family on her father's side is from there. Aunts, uncles, parents, grandparents. The Italian influence was huge on me growing up. Most of my Mom's cousins and other relatives ended up in Long Island (after her Grandparents came trough to Ellis Island). But my Mom's father moved to Connecticut and we have been here since. The customs, the food, the culture was just really a big part of my childhood. At Christmas we always had lasagna with Italian cordials. We learned Italian words. My Mom says she would love to make a trip there someday. I guess if I was forced to move I would love to see where my Great aunts and uncles and great Grandparents came from.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)dionysus
(26,467 posts)important reasons...