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Lobo27
(753 posts)The Dems will finally realize that they can beat the crazy nut bullies.
Robbins
(5,066 posts)The deal looks even better than I thought.
Roll call Is saying reid is one of dems oppossed to delaying or replealing the medical device tax.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)kysrsoze
(6,023 posts)... I know Boner was invited to today's meeting, but has he signaled he'll bring it up for a vote? Or am I missing something?
melody
(12,365 posts)Boehner isn't going to bring anything to the House he doesn't think he can swing.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)I think they want to take us over the edge
melody
(12,365 posts)He's not going to agree to anything the House won't pass.
At very least, they'll be pretty sure it'll play. The majority in the House isn't comprised of Tea Party drones.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)I don't see Boner as the leader any more in the House. Maybe they should run it by a nutjob or two
melody
(12,365 posts)AlinPA
(15,071 posts)melody
(12,365 posts)Anyway, those that are teabaggers are going to be primaried.
AlinPA
(15,071 posts)melody
(12,365 posts)Remember?
When Pete King is calling Cruz out by name, then even the traditional conservative Congressmen have had enough.
AlinPA
(15,071 posts)is still being pushed by Boehner and the votes show his success as their leader.
melody
(12,365 posts)No one is "pushing" anything except for the right of our nation not to be crippled economically for the next twenty years.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)melody
(12,365 posts)How many times do I have to say that?
He's not going to agree if he can't .. oh, never mind.
Yeah, we're all doomed.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)I'm explaining the mechanism by which Capt. Orange will bring to a vote despite it being the same deal he has rejected for two weeks.
He'll declare it something new and bring it to a vote, passing it mostly with Democratic votes. Just like he could have passed a "clean" CR two weeks ago. But this one's new (and his ass is currently in his hand), so he'll bring it to a vote.
melody
(12,365 posts)Egnever
(21,506 posts)through this they are no longer a primary threat.
Hutzpa
(11,461 posts)I'll accept this deal only if they can accept banishment of the filibuster rule, which in my
opinion will prevent the republicans from reneging on the deal.
melody
(12,365 posts)That's why the Congressional leadership is going to be there.
Would Boehner negotiate and then refuse to have it brought to a vote? The problem with the resolution of the crisis all along has been bringing it to a vote. The votes for a clean CR are already there.
Hutzpa
(11,461 posts)Last edited Tue Oct 15, 2013, 06:26 PM - Edit history (1)
that they cannot be trusted, the administration will have to throw a stiff ball with no wiggle room,
I don't think a curve ball will work, but a nice looking slow ball that gives you the impression that
you might hit a home run will do the trick.
AlinPA
(15,071 posts)in good faith? I don't. Do you think that Boehner and his teabaggers don't want a default?
melody
(12,365 posts)Last edited Tue Oct 15, 2013, 03:28 PM - Edit history (1)
The baggers are still the minority in Congress. The moderate and real conservative GOP with the Democrats will carry it.
BOY, was I wrong!
AlinPA
(15,071 posts)not allow a vote.
melody
(12,365 posts)He's not going to agree to anything he can't bring to the House floor and get it passed. Otherwise, he'd look bad.
AlinPA
(15,071 posts)Also, I'm not sure that the teabaggers (including Cantor and Boehner) would allow a vote unless there is a major (complete) concession in the ACA by the President and Democrats in the Senate which I doubt is happening. Default is their preferred outcome.
melody
(12,365 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,438 posts)It gives nothing and promises nothing but budget negotiations which, of course, the Dems wanted and tried to get 19 times before this mess.
Hopefully, it is accepted and passed so that the wailing and gnashing of teabaggers can start.
Snake Plissken
(4,103 posts)What else should they get?
They whine about handouts to the point of contracting a terminal case of diaper rash and the first chance they get, they come looking for a handout.
Next time you sucker punch someone who is stronger than you, instead of expecting him to give you a handout, be prepared to get your ass kicked.
byronius
(7,401 posts)contingent as a cover excuse for bringing it to the floor. I hope this is true.
Only the fact that this has happened once before with a similar cast is keeping Everything from tanking. Good things are afoot, the world wants us to be all right, and the human spirit is alive and well in the USA; only a tight cadre of murderous religious sociopaths stands in the way. If the nation defaults the Republican Party becomes the Anarchist Mad Max Post-Apocalyptic Party forever, with no chance of rebranding and a certainty of a Teabagger Party splitting off. Truly, it is political suicide and a permanent historical stain for them.
If they step back from the brink now there's still a chance of American Amnesia keeping their black heart beating.