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I think it's about time for OWS to become more visible. (Original Post) barnabas63 Oct 2013 OP
What OWS needs... Callmecrazy Oct 2013 #1
"It" is an energy that needs to be harnassed... barnabas63 Oct 2013 #2
Call me crazy... Earth_First Oct 2013 #3
LOL 1000words Oct 2013 #5
... SammyWinstonJack Oct 2013 #6
Yep. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #12
Their intentions Jamaal510 Oct 2013 #19
What OWS needs is a target for the authorities to stomp on Fumesucker Oct 2013 #13
OWS needs to infiltrate the Democratic Party meow2u3 Oct 2013 #4
If the tea party ever garnished the massive support OWS saw.. barnabas63 Oct 2013 #7
The Tea Party were carrying guns to public meetings Fumesucker Oct 2013 #14
who's the leader of OWS? wyldwolf Oct 2013 #9
Nobody, apparently. Callmecrazy Oct 2013 #10
exactly wyldwolf Oct 2013 #11
but.. they were... our saviors..... dionysus Oct 2013 #16
It's not like I haven't tried... Callmecrazy Oct 2013 #8
The silence is deafening. Callmecrazy Oct 2013 #15
Exactly gopiscrap Oct 2013 #17
1. 'Occupy' is what happens AFTER a war. randome Oct 2013 #18

Callmecrazy

(3,065 posts)
1. What OWS needs...
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 08:22 PM
Oct 2013

is some coherent leadership. A spokesperson to get a message out. A charter of some sort to let us know just what the hell they're doing there. I still don't know what it is they're trying to accomplish.

 
12. Yep.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 09:00 PM
Oct 2013

I remember watching the live feeds when it was a cohesion of several liberal groups, including labor.

Toward the end, even before the raids... it was just a bunch of 20-somethings that knew absolutely nothing about the world that engaged in false equivalencies like most low intelligent voters do. Most of their discussions were cringeworthy and I got depressed for emotionally investing in such a failure.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
19. Their intentions
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 09:44 PM
Oct 2013

were good, but like you said, that false equivalence drove me nuts (particularly in regards to the 2 parties). The Republicans have been the main culprits of all the country's financial woes by continuing to waste time trying to de-fund health care and push for cuts to government programs, yet some of the people from Occupy decided to lump all Democrats in with the GOP because of a few Blue Dogs.

They did help start the debate about wealth inequality and taxing the rich, but other than that, I think Occupy turned out to be a failure. There was a lack of leadership, a lack of money, and they couldn't all get behind one agenda. For example, I remember even seeing some Ron Paul supporters at an Occupy protest in NYC, and it was basically like everyone there was fighting for different things.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
13. What OWS needs is a target for the authorities to stomp on
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 09:06 PM
Oct 2013

Decapitation of enemy leadership is the preferred modus operandi of the US military.

meow2u3

(24,764 posts)
4. OWS needs to infiltrate the Democratic Party
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 08:27 PM
Oct 2013

the same way the teahadists infiltrated and intimidate the GOP.

If OWS can pull off all but taking over the Democratic Party, then Occupy can have the leverage to put the fear of God in corporate DINOs and even threaten primary challenges from the left to make them play ball. The only impediments are money, or the lack thereof, and persecution by the establishment, unlike the Tea Party, who seems to be handled with kid gloves.

barnabas63

(1,214 posts)
7. If the tea party ever garnished the massive support OWS saw..
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 08:33 PM
Oct 2013

..and were involved in civil disobedience I think we'd see the same thing, honestly.

Callmecrazy

(3,065 posts)
8. It's not like I haven't tried...
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 08:33 PM
Oct 2013

Somebody speak up and tell me what they want to do. Because all I've heard about is a bunch of drummers in a park. The movement is sadly ineffective because there is no leadership.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
18. 1. 'Occupy' is what happens AFTER a war.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 09:37 PM
Oct 2013

2. The GOP is floundering precisely because they don't have a coherent leader.

3. http://www.wired.com/opinion/2012/12/a-eulogy-for-occupy/

4. Without a leader, demagogues rise to the front. As in the Ted Cruz types.
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