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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAre You in the New American Center? 51% in center.
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/center-interactive-quiz?ignoreCache=1An Esquire/NBC poll, tied to our latest chart-filled examination of the state of our politics.
Where do you fall on todays ideological spectrum? Answer a few short questions and find out
whether youre part of the New American Center.
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peace13
(11,076 posts)Your survey says that I am safely a bleeding heart. Go figure. Nice name. If a person actually has empathy and understanding and thinks for herself she is in fact, a bleeding heart.
CanonRay
(14,103 posts)ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)Lebam in LA
(1,345 posts)Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)Robert Kennedy would probably be far left.
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)highplainsdem
(48,993 posts)hobbit709
(41,694 posts)Fix The Stupid
(948 posts)Downwinder
(12,869 posts)Mad-in-Mo
(229 posts)Guess I should have foreseen that.
sinkingfeeling
(51,457 posts)as a teabagger. Here's what I got:
RockaFowler
(7,429 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,320 posts)They give lots of figures for what that 51% think, but I couldn't see anything on how they decided to cut that 51% from the amounts either side (and I couldn't see the relative sizes of 'left' and 'right', either). Did they really have figures that justify a 51% center rather than, say, a 20% center?
Bunnahabhain
(857 posts)It put me in the Bleeding Heart category
rurallib
(62,416 posts)I am willing to bet if they asked specifically about individual issues (like they do when they break the ACA into specific pieces like pre-existing conditions) most people would weigh in on the left side of an issue.
For example - should a power company be allowed to pollute when their pollution has been shown to be a health hazard, or should they be required to prevent or clean up the pollution?
Just made an example up. Funny that when something affects someone directly, they get religion.
eta - as you can imagine - I am bleeding heart and so out of touch with America, I can barely speak American.
Fuck NBC and Esquire and their corporate owners.
kydo
(2,679 posts)Darker blue then I thought too. After watching toady break the groups down I thought I'd have one foot in that minivan group and the other the bleeding heart Lisa Simpson with my little toe just barely touching the religious left Taylor Perry group.
But I took the test and I am more like the Lisa Simpson group then any other. Oh well, better except reality, I am a bleeding heart liberal and damn proud!
tosh
(4,423 posts)part of the 10%
edited to add: the 10% surprised me. Didn't know we were such a small minority.
Chan790
(20,176 posts)Also, which questions you ask and how they are worded dramatically-skew outcomes. The results can be made through application of basic assumptions of the polling entity to confirm any hypothesis...no matter how absurd. Further: Precision ≠ Accuracy.
Another problem can be surmised as "He who cuts the pie, measures the slices." That is, out of the respondents to their poll, they classified them into eight categories which we will simply refer to as 1-8 with 1 being very-liberal and 8 being very-conservative. Category 5 is not however the totality of their "New American Center"; 51% of respondents did not score in category 5 and if they did, it would belie credibility...no, their totality of the "New American Center" represents a range of four categories that they have disclosed as categories 3, 4, 5 and 6. But who made that determination? They did, it confirms their hypothesis. They likely would have made a different determination if "4-7" or "2-6" had better proved their hypothesis. Do we have to accept their determination as valid? It makes as much sense to narrow the "New American Center" to "4-6" or "3-5" both of which provide dramatically-different results. (Especially since their avatar of category 5 is Phil Robertson...a guy who openly displays his disdain for non-conservatives.) I can present an equally-valid interpretation of the data to say that the "New American Center" is a vast minority of the population...all I have to do is confine the range to either only category 4 or 5.
The reality is ideological polling (as opposed to predictive polling such as that used to predict the outcomes of elections where the parameters of the outcomes are defined and universally-understood) is by its very nature invalid. It looks good but it's about as credible, as a result of its inborn flaws, as tea-leaf reading, Cosmopolitan surveys and phrenology. There is no way to filter for the biases of the polling entity, even the means attempted in this article of using two ideologically-opposed polling entities tends to only amplify those biases upon which they agree even when those biases are demonstrably-false. ("All unicorns agree that unicorns are real."
PragmaticLiberal
(904 posts)Which is interesting because I'm not particularly religious.
I'm more of an agnostic.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,320 posts)So I'm not that surprised that most DUers so far are the left-most 10% 'bleeding hearts' (including me, and I'm not far left here). Bernie Sanders doesn't exist, it seems.
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/ideological-spectrum-1113#slide-1
Left-most 10%: 'Bleeding hearts' - Elizabeth Warren, Nancy Pelosi (heh - that'll get a few comments here...), Mike O'Malley
Next 11%: 'Gospel Left' - Joe Biden, John Lewis
14%: 'Minivan moderates': Chuck Schumer, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton
13%: 'MBA Middle': Harry Reid, Jon Tester, Michael Bloomberg
12%: 'Pickup Populists': Arnold Scharzenegger, GHW Bush (ie "these moderate Republicans have all retired"
13%: 'The Whateverman': Chris Christie, Jeb Bush, Mitt Romney (in their case, this apparently means "say whatever it takes to get elected"
14%: 'The Righteous Right' (I think I may barf): John Boehner, Mike Huckabee (seriously? The man's a nutcase when you look at his positions), Nikki Haley
14%: 'The Talk Radio Heads': Marc Rubio, Liz Cheney, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz (notice they've got 4 in this category, because the USA is suffering from a plague of wingnuts)
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)I don't really see him in the "MBA Middle" with Tester and Bloomberg.
The quiz placed me in the MBA Middle, although I am not in the south or west.
Apparently this is "Bleeding Heart Underground"...
bunnies
(15,859 posts)Not surprising, really.
BluegrassStateBlues
(881 posts)Not sure where that leaves me.
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)texanwitch
(18,705 posts)Left all the way.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)I know I'm liberal...but I often don't like admitting it with how out there some liberals get.
JCMach1
(27,559 posts)What I take from it is that political opinion is so diverse in America that two parties are way too small to represent it...
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)bluestate10
(10,942 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)Doremus
(7,261 posts)AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Proud to be a member of the Ten Percent.
trackfan
(3,650 posts)One of the 10% that believes in the full progressive agenda. Not part of the New American Center.