Veteran Privilege needs to end

[mwrguy]

Why does is matter so much that this group gets to see a memorial?

Why are they allowed to tear down fences and throw them at the White House, assault police and destroy public property with impunity?

News of other citizens cut off from real government services has been drowned out by these guys and their temper tantrums.

They are treated like a separate class of citizen that is one step up from everyone else, and it needs to stop.

No more special treatment.

[ScreamingMeemie]

1. They are one step up from me.

I've never taken an oath to lay down my life for my country.

Sorry. But you're on a roll with this lately.

[FarCenter]

11. Most veterans were not in danger; combat veterans and those with purple hearts are in another class.

[ScreamingMeemie]

25. My point is, they don't get an option to say no.

I was never ready, willing, and able to serve my country.

The OP's anger is misplaced here.

[FarCenter]

27. Draftees didn't have much choice in taking the oath.

[ScreamingMeemie]

28. Which further proves my point that they are one step up from me...

and the OP is blaming the wrong group of people here.

[mwrguy]

59. There hasn't been a draft in 40 years

There have still been millions of veteran cranked out since then.

[ScreamingMeemie]

16. Is that supposed to hurt?

It says more about you than it does about me.

Have a wonderful day.

[Ranchemp.]

21. He gone.

Nasty piece of work that one was.

[ScreamingMeemie]

23. Thanks Ranchemp. I'm used to it. Every once in awhile this group of people

posts horrendous comments to my blog, replies here, etc.

It's gotten more humorous than hurtful.

[Ranchemp.]

17. That's pretty fucked up dude.

Enjoy your, I'm sure, short stay here.

[redwitch]

2. I strongly disagree.

Not veterans fault they were used by the teabaggers.

[barbiegeek]

66. I wish there could be a real discussion about veterans being used by teabaggers

It seems to happened alot. Many teabaggers talk about being a vet or bring up veterans. Are they some off branch of angry Vietnam Vets? What is the link

[NYC_SKP]

3. You are so wrong about this.

First, the solution isn't to treat veterans as badly as we treat others, the solution is to treat others as well as veterans.

Second, we don't treat veterans particularly well.

Third, many in that group weren't veterans and those who were did not represent most veterans.

Fourth, it was immensely important that nothing resembling abuse take place on Sunday with that group of traitors in DC.

I'm very proud of how we handled the group with so much restraint, we made them look even more foolish.

Apologies if you were being sarcastic but you never know.

[TacoD]

41. Thanks, well said. (nt)

[MineralMan]

4. Most of the people at that memorial were not veterans.

Veterans would not do that. They were Teapukes. You've made an error.

[AngryAmish]

22. A true Scotsman would not do it either.

[sibelian]

34. Well, I'm from Scotland. And I'm male.

And I DIDN'T do it. So, I guess you must be right.



...

[MineralMan]

50. Well, I'm of Scottish heritage and I'm a USAF veteran.

You'd not find me doing any of that garbage.

[Lil Missy]

5. They were not acting as Veterans. They were bigoted Tea Party jackasses. n/t

[el_bryanto]

6. Insofar as they tore down fences they should pay the penalty

They aren't above the law. But they are a special class of people after a fashion. As others have noted they do run the risk of giving their lives for us.

"I've always been amazed that the very people forced to live in the worst parts of town, go to the worst schools, and who have it the hardest are always the first to step up, to defend that very system. They serve so that we don't have to. They offer to give up their lives so that we can be free. It is remarkably their gift to us. And all they ask for in return is that we never send them into harm's way unless it's absolutely necessary. Will they ever trust us again?" - Michael Moore, Fahrenheit 9/11

Bryant

[Decaffeinated]

7. Ironic username is still... ironic...

You seem to have some projection issues...

[pintobean]

8. I see you're posting in English.

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[otohara]

56. WTF Does That Mean?

Never mind, I get it now...always refer to WWII and how we'd all be speaking German....yada yada....
You know there have been several wars since...

[TreasonousBastard]

9. You do realize that actual WWII vets are in their 80's and 90's...

and not in the best of shape to tear down fences and sling shit.

I do agree, however, that no one should be getting away with that. Particularly the people who do it.

[mwrguy]

44. I didn't say WWII vets

I said veterans period.

Anyone who ever wore a uniform is now a member of a caste that cannot be criticized.

Those 30 & 40 year old vets tearing down fences and dragging them to the white house with impunity.

[WilliamPitt]

10. Fail.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

12. "assault police"?

[cynatnite]

13. unrec. n/t

[HappyMe]

15. A colossal fail.

Don't blame Veterans for the actions of teabaggers.

[Katashi_itto]

18. As a Vet who served in Desert Storm. Go fuck yourself.

A bunch of scum Teabaggers hijacked what was going on. Not that the memorials should be in anyway opened in anyway till the shutdown is over.

[Scuba]

38. As a vet who served in Viet Nam, plus one!

[Katashi_itto]

65. !

[Supersedeas]

67. here's another

[Sissyk]

19. Please tell me why

everyone wants to blame the Veterans and Southerners for all this when it was a VERY, VERY, VERY SMALL GROUP OF TEABAGGERS that are not even fucking veterans or southerners?

[Throd]

20. Now there's a message that will resonate with the American public.

[tazkcmo]

32. You made me laugh.

Thank you because this veteran's blood pressure was dangerously high and you helped lower it.

[malaise]

24. Huh

Bye bye!

[Orsino]

26. Veterans are disproportionately likely to be homeless.

If you meant to say you're tired of seeing them alternately used as political weapons and whipping boys, congratulations and thanks.

Your talk of privilege, however, is removed from reality and sucks.

[Shrike47]

29. It matters for them to see the memorial because they are very, very old.

Veterans have served in a way many are not willing to do. They do deserve respect for that. They got high jacked and used. Pukes like to use people.

[mwrguy]

46. Those 30-somethings in camoflage tearing down the fences were not very, very old

But still they get a complete pass from police.

[dgibby]

52. And you know for certain that they were Vets?

Anyone can get cammies.

As for the REAL Vets there, they were very uset by the rabble rousers (led by Cruz and Palin) who hijacked their event, which was to peacfully protest the closing of the memorials.

As a REAL Viet Nam era and 1st Gulf War era vet, I am very angry with those assholes. The vets didn't deserve to be used as pawns by that tea party trash, and they don't deserve your condemnation, either.

[tazkcmo]

30. Another veteran

with another big FU. Nice and comfy at your keyboard. Coward. Go to any VA hospital, look those veterans in the eye and repeat your dribble you chicken shit.

[Ron Green]

31. I don't care about any memorial, but I get all my health care

through the VA. Would you take that away?

[hack89]

33. Are you familiar with the Honor Flight program?

there is a huge nation wide effort to get as many WWII vets to see the WWII monument before they all die.

So thousands of old and frail vets have been planning for months to fly to DC to see "their" monument. Can't you see how preventing them is going to cause a fuss?

[pintobean]

36. You recced your own stupid post.

[William769]

37. You will lose evrytime. I stand with my brothers in arms when called.

[JonLP24]

39. Where can I find this special treatment?

I could use some.

[Decaffeinated]

45. 10% off at under armour...

Good stuff...

[UTUSN]

40. R#4 & K for, I would specify adding the word "BAITING" as in "Veterans' BAITING" to the topic

This would be the wingnut mob of jingoistic FAKE patriotism as opposed to the real thing. Chickenhawks. I joined the VFW from nostalgia for a figment of a bond with other veterans, but found a nest of mostly wingnuts.

Tours are rescheduled all the time. If the Rethugs cut off the cash to operate *everything* it's their characteristic hypocrisy to distract with BAITING. If social services and national security are closed down, what exactly is essential about monuments. Not a question. Monuments (and national parks) are our china closets of knickknacks. Who gets to make a list of exceptions to what is subject to the Rethug shutdown.

[FreakinDJ]

42. Disqusting OP

Because most were DRAFTED into service or joined out of Civic Duty and none embraced the idea of being killed or wounded

[hootinholler]

43. Hey Mr Drive by poster!

What fucking Veteran's Privilege?

Ask us cold war vets about all the luxury we get as veterans.

[nadinbrzezinski]

47. What priviledge? And news to you, this will be very popular

so you want to cut disability pensions and pensions in general while at it? You will be happy to know the US Military has been considering a 401 K for lifers who NOW join the service. There is a lot wrong with that.

But I see this was very popular, NOT

[cordelia]

48. Disgusting

[madville]

49. From the title I thought this was going to be about

the 5 and 10 point preference veterans get in the federal civilian hiring process. You probably don't like that either.

[Jamastiene]

51. I don't usually announce it when I ignore someone, but

your OP is fucking ridiculous. Why would you pick veterans to hate like this? Fuck it. Nevermind. Off to ignore. I.Just.Cannot. Fuck this.

[MadrasT]

53. Massive fail on so many levels (n/t)

[City Lights]

54. Did you forget the :sarcasm:?

If not, !

[lpbk2713]

55. No, he forgot Mother's Day and apple pie.

Look for the rants on them coming soon.

[Egnever]

57. sounds more like your Mom

Needs to go back and teach you respect.

These folks were willing to put their lives on the line to protect you. They deserve every single privilege they get, they don't get nearly enough.

[mwrguy]

58. More like protecting Halliburton

What were they protecting me from in Iraq?

Those civilians in Haditha were a real threat to me, I guess.

[oneshooter]

61. I take it that this rant means you have never been in the military.

You should have very little to say about veterans, not being one you do not belong to the group of individuals that placed their lives on the line.

Why do you dislike them so, politics? Cowardliness? Your mommy said no?

What do you know what they have done to earn these "perks". Since you were never in the military you can not truly understand what they have done for you.

[SQUEE]

69. No soldier, sailor, airmen or Marine chooses where to

serve, and no matter that it be in a shithole in the ME dying for oil, or catching rays on Johnson Island, the fact that they have accepted the call to duty to serve the American people, be it volunteer or draft, they are still worthy of a modicum of thanks and appreciation. I always aknowledge that the service has a fair amonut of shitbirds, it is after all a product of this country and reflects its problems, flaws and mitakes. But it also is a force that has done immeasurable good. Want to complain about where we kill, or die? Then look in the mirror because the government we as Americans elect decides where Jane or Johny will spend our blood and treasure.

[NCTraveler]

60. No it doesn't. No it won't. nt.

[dawg]

62. Veterans deserve to be treated with respect.

Maybe the solution would be to also start treating everyone else with respect as well.

[mwrguy]

63. The would constitute and end to group privillege

and would be exactly the right thing to do.

Same amount of respect for everyone.

[Lurks Often]

64. A disgusting post from a person filled with hate.

Walk into a VA hospital or onto a military base and say that out loud.

Of course we both know you won't, because in the end you are a loud mouthed keyboard commando who talks tough on the internet.

[maxrandb]

68. I served for 28.5 years and you have no clue what you are talking about

First of all, any "self-respecting" Veteran would have never been within 500 yards of those nutbags in DC....and NO Veteran I know would have stood there while the flag of an enemy state of our nation was waved about. People make a spurious assumption that all (or most) Veterans are knuckle-dragging "Tea-bagging" nut jobs, but having served with a bunch over half a life-time, I can tell you that is not the case.

Second - you do realize that you have 18 year old kids working 18 hour days on the flight-deck of an Aircraft Carrier, being held responsible for $20M aircraft, and earning wages that put them in competition with fast food workers. I've seen guys who have busted their asses, only to go home and have to apply for Food Stamps to feed their families. I've seen guys get blown over the side of a carrier by a jet blast from a S3, get fished out of the water, and go back to work.

That "special privilege" crap is a bunch of horseshit. What we should be asking is why we don't honor all American workers, and why we don't fight for "their" health care and benefits with the same fervor we do for the veteran.

The veterans aren't the problem, Blaming them, or claiming they have some "special privilege" is like a $40K a year Tea-bagger blaming America's problems on their fellow American who is making $42K a year.