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highplainsdem

(48,993 posts)
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 11:09 AM Oct 2013

Uh, Oh: Boehner’s Latest Shutdown Proposal Is Unconstitutional

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/10/15/2780121/boehners-latest-shutdown-proposal-unconstitutional/

Tuesday morning, House Republican leaders released a new plan to end the government shutdown and prevent America from defaulting on its debts if the Senate and President Obama agree to several policy demands. One of these demands would take away Members of Congress’ ability to receive an employer contribution to help pay for their health insurance, a benefit they — like all federal employees — currently enjoy.

There’s just one problem with this proposal, it’s unconstitutional unless it’s delayed for more than a year.

The Twenty-Seventh Amendment to the Constitution provides that “[n]o law, varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives, shall take effect, until an election of Representatives shall have intervened.” A law eliminating federal contributions to congressmembers’ health benefits is a law “varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives.” So it cannot take effect until after the next federal election in November 2014.

Although the text of the House GOP’s latest proposal is not yet available, they passed similar language denying health care contributions to members of Congress and other select federal employees during an earlier round of the shutdown showdown. That language contains no provision delaying the changes in congressional compensation until after the 2014 election — “[n]o Government contribution under section 8906 of title 5, United States Code, shall be provided on behalf of an individual who is a Member of Congress, congressional staff, the resident, the Vice President, or a political appointee for coverage under this subparagraph.”

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Uh, Oh: Boehner’s Latest Shutdown Proposal Is Unconstitutional (Original Post) highplainsdem Oct 2013 OP
Oh, the Constitution, that old thing? CanonRay Oct 2013 #1
Although proposed in 1789, the 27th amendment was ratified in 1992 SamYeager Oct 2013 #4
welcome to DU gopiscrap Oct 2013 #8
Could this be the secret Republicon strategy to delay Obamacare? raging moderate Oct 2013 #2
No. It will be DOA in the Senate. nt BumRushDaShow Oct 2013 #3
Didn't you hear? "The Constituation is just a piece o' paper... berni_mccoy Oct 2013 #5
Constitution? progressoid Oct 2013 #6
I have been wondering when someone would raise this issue Gothmog Oct 2013 #7

CanonRay

(14,103 posts)
1. Oh, the Constitution, that old thing?
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 11:12 AM
Oct 2013

Who cares about that anymore? Boehner wants a new Articles of Confederation. Because the last one worked so well.

 

SamYeager

(309 posts)
4. Although proposed in 1789, the 27th amendment was ratified in 1992
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 11:31 AM
Oct 2013

So this would be a rather new portion of the constitution.

Doesn't alter the fact that both the original and the revised Vitter amendment are unconstitutional.

raging moderate

(4,305 posts)
2. Could this be the secret Republicon strategy to delay Obamacare?
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 11:22 AM
Oct 2013

I see that you quoted the 27th Amendment: "No law, varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives, shall take effect, until an election of Representatives shall have intervened." If they can cram this change into the Affordable care law, maybe they will then blare out the demand that the Affordable care law MUST be delayed because of this 27th Amendment.

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
5. Didn't you hear? "The Constituation is just a piece o' paper...
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 11:33 AM
Oct 2013

And like the debt ceiling, it don't matter that much" - Republitards and Teabaggers

Gothmog

(145,289 posts)
7. I have been wondering when someone would raise this issue
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 12:19 PM
Oct 2013

The Vitter amendment is a direct cut in the compensation to members of congress.

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