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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 01:17 PM Oct 2013

Teabaggers Plan To Be In Charge. No Elections In 2014. Could They Be So Bold

Their idea is that nothing will pass at all until everyone else relents. That means no government funding. Means permanent default. It also means no government help for future disasters. Teabaggers are also mostly religious zealots who want to replace the Constitution. They are counting on the apathy of the country to let them do what they want.

Where is the outrage against them? They have said they were elected to shut down the government. Well that is what they have done.

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Teabaggers Plan To Be In Charge. No Elections In 2014. Could They Be So Bold (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Oct 2013 OP
The states are the ones that hold elecitons. The federal government doesn't do that. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2013 #1
I Know. I Was Being A Bit Facetious. TheMastersNemesis Oct 2013 #2
Think Progress nailed it in this article. "Read This One Document If You Want To Understand" Agnosticsherbet Oct 2013 #3
yep -- last chance to take the country grasswire Oct 2013 #5
They want to secede from the states Lifelong Dem Oct 2013 #4

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
1. The states are the ones that hold elecitons. The federal government doesn't do that.
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 01:23 PM
Oct 2013

So even if the Federal government remains shut down through November of next year, that would not be an impediment to having an election.

Personally, I think if the government shut down last more than a couple of months, states that rely on Federal Government funds to stay afloat will get increasingly desperate. See Mother Jones for a good article on this.

Before we reach November next year, the US Government would simply fold and the fifty states would be on their own.

 

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
2. I Know. I Was Being A Bit Facetious.
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 01:28 PM
Oct 2013

But you wonder why they are so bold. They appear to believe they will be rewarded for what they are doing. They believe that in their districts they can commit actual murder and will be re elected. I am not saying there will be no elections. My actual question is what state will the country be in by the time elections roll around.

This disaster could possible stop all the Social Security checks and Medicare payments. It could also make it impossible to respond to natural disasters because there would be no money for first responders. Actually there could be a situation where we could not fund our military.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
3. Think Progress nailed it in this article. "Read This One Document If You Want To Understand"
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 01:39 PM
Oct 2013
Read This One Document If You Want To Understand Why Republicans Followed Ted Cruz Off A Cliff
Obamacare and similar programs are akin to bribes that Democrats offer to get “the votes for the next time.” according to one evangelical voter. A Tea Party voter draws an even crisper line between social welfare and Democratic success at the polls — “we’ll give you insurance, we’ll give you money. That’s why he got elected,” she says of President Obama. And if Obamacare is fully implemented, both wings believe that the Democratic Party could become a permanent majority party. Once Obama adds the newly insured to his base, evangelicals and Tea Partiers will be cut out of Congress and the White House forever.

This is why so much of the Republican base rallied behind Cruz’s shutdown-or-defund-Obamacare strategy, despite the fact that most GOP leaders viewed it as a suicide mission. And this is why conservatives in Congress refuse to abort this mission even as it becomes increasingly clear that Americans at large resent the GOP’s decision to shut down the government. There is a common perception among Democrats that, as more and more polls show the Cruz-inspired shutdown cutting into the Republican Party’s brand, Republicans will step back from the brink and renounce Cruz’s extortionist tactics — and recent signs of progress in the Senate give some credence to this perception. So long as religious conservatives and the Tea Party hold the GOP’s reins, however, key Republican players in the House are unlikely to agree to a truce.

It is one thing to ask Republicans to execute a tactical retreat when they believe they can regroup and rise again to fight another day. But it is another thing to demand a retreat from men and women who have beheld the Great Red Dragon standing upon America’s shores, a crown perched on each of its seven heads.

It's the apocalypse, baby. The Tea Party and the Republican Base have read the writing on the wall and are taking their last stand to defend a country that never was.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
5. yep -- last chance to take the country
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 02:22 PM
Oct 2013

Every dynamic is working against them. Now is the hour, for them.

 

Lifelong Dem

(344 posts)
4. They want to secede from the states
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 01:49 PM
Oct 2013

Since they won't have an organized government, they want to tear down the one we have first.

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