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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Mon Mar 5, 2012, 01:42 PM Mar 2012

Female Veterans Demand Rush Limbaugh’s Show Be Pulled From American Forces Network

Female Veterans Demand Rush Limbaugh’s Show Be Pulled From American Forces Network

By Faiz Shakir

VoteVets, a coalition of Iraq and Afghanistan veterans, released a letter today from a group of female veterans calling on the American Forces Network to drop Rush Limbaugh from its programming.

Miranda Norman (who is a VoteVets.org Senior Advisor), Kayla Williams, and Robin Eckstein, all Iraq War Veterans, and Katherine Scheirman, former chief of medical operations in the U.S. Air Forces, released the following statement:

Rush Limbaugh has a freedom of speech and can say what he wants, but in light of his horribly misogynistic comments, American Forces Radio should no longer give him a platform. Our entire military depends on troops respecting each other – women and men. There simply can be no place on military airwaves for sentiments that would undermine that respect. When many of our female troops use birth control, for Limbaugh to say they are “sluts” and “prostitutes” is beyond the pale. It isn’t just disrespectful to our women serving our country, but it’s language that goes against everything that makes our military work. Again, we swore to uphold our Constitution, including the freedom of speech, and would not take that away from anyone – even Limbaugh. But that does not mean AFN should broadcast him. In fact, it shouldn’t.

AFN is owned and operated by the Department of Defense, funded with taxpayer dollars, and accessible to troops serving overseas. Pentagon spokesman George Little says the military’s network will continue to air Rush Limbaugh’s radio program and is “unaware of any plans to review that decision.”

American Forces Network has a Facebook page here. AFN Europe and AFN Afghanistan are on Twitter.

http://thinkprogress.org/media/2012/03/05/437800/female-veterans-demand-rush-limbaughs-show-be-pulled-from-american-forces-network/

Dipshit is done!

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Female Veterans Demand Rush Limbaugh’s Show Be Pulled From American Forces Network (Original Post) ProSense Mar 2012 OP
YAY! BumRushDaShow Mar 2012 #1
Ruh Roh! Guess the Pentagon will have to rethink this. Yay, Vets! nt babylonsister Mar 2012 #2
Wow - this could have impact on AFN more than any other factor. jillan Mar 2012 #3
Assuming the military considers WOMEN to be persons. Zalatix Mar 2012 #11
YES! Raise HELL ladies! ProfessionalLeftist Mar 2012 #4
I sincerely hope this is the end of his career RainDog Mar 2012 #5
Me, too. On both accounts. eom BlueCaliDem Mar 2012 #20
K & R n/t glinda Mar 2012 #6
bout time NightOwwl Mar 2012 #7
Now that's some military strength! go (away) Rush! n/t librechik Mar 2012 #8
K & R Scurrilous Mar 2012 #9
As they should. lpbk2713 Mar 2012 #10
I'm waiting for Rush to come out bashing veterans Aerows Mar 2012 #12
YES! This is what Supporting the Troops really means! BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2012 #13
I am so proud of these folks. It is time duhneece Mar 2012 #14
Go female vets. spicegal Mar 2012 #15
Sign the petition if you haven't already maximusveritas Mar 2012 #16
Kicked shcrane71 Mar 2012 #17
Well-stated. wakemewhenitsover Mar 2012 #18
Lets Remember... Homer03 Mar 2012 #19
women in the military should not have to hear hate speech directed toward them RainDog Mar 2012 #21
No Homer03 Mar 2012 #22
are you aware of the attack on women's health care? RainDog Mar 2012 #24
No Homer03 Mar 2012 #23
It is a WAR on women's rights Horse with no Name Mar 2012 #25
fucking incredible to me RainDog Mar 2012 #27
Yep. Horse with no Name Mar 2012 #29
Or, as Primo Levi said: "If Not Now, When?" RainDog Mar 2012 #26
what do you know? Homer03 Mar 2012 #28
The only one that is "like them" seems to be you Horse with no Name Mar 2012 #30
Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #31
Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #33
I'll second what the above DUer wrote: Quantess Mar 2012 #32
sure Homer03 Mar 2012 #34
But where's the fascism? I don't understand. Quantess Mar 2012 #35
kinder küche kirche RainDog Mar 2012 #38
Okay, but I was asking Homer03 where is this "fascism" from the left / from women... Quantess Mar 2012 #39
looks like he's no longer here to scold us RainDog Mar 2012 #45
I was waiting for his response. Crickets. I thought he was stumped... Quantess Mar 2012 #46
Wow. You really DO. NOT. GET. IT. RainDog Mar 2012 #37
Amen Sister Horse with no Name Mar 2012 #42
Female Vets have it bad as it in the military... Lost-in-FL Mar 2012 #43
exactly. It has always stunned me that AFN was so willing to put this scum on the airwaves RainDog Mar 2012 #47
Ewwww... Lost-in-FL Mar 2012 #48
False equivalence from you RainDog Mar 2012 #36
Zero tolerance for verbal sexual harassment! Frances Mar 2012 #40
More loud voices should be heard from the male veterans GoldenOldie Mar 2012 #41
agree! RainDog Mar 2012 #44
Yes! It's time for Rush to go Politicub Mar 2012 #49
 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
11. Assuming the military considers WOMEN to be persons.
Mon Mar 5, 2012, 02:18 PM
Mar 2012

Military women might in fact have the MOST skin in the game when it comes to Limbaugh's comments.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
13. YES! This is what Supporting the Troops really means!
Mon Mar 5, 2012, 03:38 PM
Mar 2012

the Pentagon goes and basically says, "go to hell, female troops" ?....

fuck the right wing....I can't speak civilly about them ANY MORE!!!!

duhneece

(4,113 posts)
14. I am so proud of these folks. It is time
Mon Mar 5, 2012, 05:22 PM
Mar 2012

It is actually way past time for Rush to quit attacking women personally with public air waves.

spicegal

(758 posts)
15. Go female vets.
Mon Mar 5, 2012, 08:45 PM
Mar 2012

It's time to pull his Limbaugh's filth off the air. He's had a good long run. It's time to cut him loose. He's a misogynistic loathsome pig. Any man worth a darn should be condemning him.

 

Homer03

(49 posts)
19. Lets Remember...
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 11:30 AM
Mar 2012

This is pawlitics we do. As much as id like to see RL choke to death on his own gonads, we dont want to give the other side such good ammo as they would get should we really engage in silencing opposing views as they so often claim is done. Right now the right is floundering in excrement enough-maybe we should stand back.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
21. women in the military should not have to hear hate speech directed toward them
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 02:10 PM
Mar 2012

by a hillbilly heroin, viagra-popping draft dodger - oh, wait, it was his anal cyst - which, apparently, means his entire being.

Honestly, it is REPULSIVE that AFR plays this racist man who tries to tear down the commander in chief.

Those at the Pentagon who think this is a good thing should be removed from office.

No shit. This is war - a war Republicans have declared and now that people are paying attention to what total racist, misogynistic wankers they are - lolol - sorry, they don't get to pretend this was unprovoked.

People in the U.S. have employed similar tactics against other hate groups in the U.S. - particular neo-nazi groups, etc. with great success. there's no shame in working to tear down organizations that exist to spew racism and misogyny and pretend there is any value in that for this society.

they have NOTHING WORTHWHILE to contribute to American life. imo, the Republican Party has become a hate group and they deserve every bit of condemnation and, hopefully, legal action against them and their mouthpieces. I hope Fluke sues Limbaugh and ruins him financially - because that's would be the proper level of damages compared to what he has done to this private citizen.

He and the Republicans can die by their own words.

 

Homer03

(49 posts)
22. No
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 03:11 PM
Mar 2012

No shit--this is not war. Believe me--you'll know war when you see it. (And this country has had civil war before. And civil war came to Spain just because right and left couldnt stand each other anymore.)This is politics and one remains diplomatic unless you want war.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
24. are you aware of the attack on women's health care?
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 03:35 PM
Mar 2012

YES.

THIS IS WAR.

When Republicans are trying to overturn established law and FORCE women to accept the religious beliefs of a bunch of hypocrites - 98% of whom don't follow their own teachers - whose teachers shielded pedophiles for decades...

THIS IS WAR.

When Hitler dissolved parliament, it was war against the socialists. The fascists lost then, too.

Maybe you don't think women's reproductive rights are one of THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUES OF THE 20TH CENTURY - but they were and they continue to be.

So, don't tell me No. - Just because they are trying to murder and enslave women via legislation, that doesn't mean it's not war. Look at the storm troopers at the Virginia capitol bldg when a 1000 women came out to march against the Republican attempt to pass a law that would have mandated rape for women seeking medical care.

THIS IS WAR.

When you have a govt trying to tell you it wants to pass laws to insert objects into your vagina because of their PERVERTED religious beliefs, then maybe you'll get what I'm saying.

Or, it would be nice if you could have a little compassion... you know... first they came for the Jews...

 

Homer03

(49 posts)
23. No
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 03:14 PM
Mar 2012

No shit--this is not war. Believe me--you'll know war when you see it. (And this country has had civil war before. And civil war came to Spain just because right and left couldnt stand each other anymore.)This is politics and one remains diplomatic unless you want war.

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
25. It is a WAR on women's rights
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 03:43 PM
Mar 2012

and someone who thinks otherwise is just not paying attention.

Wars aren't always fought with guns.

They are fought with attempts to control.

IF you haven't been paying attention--and somehow I think you probably have not--but the professions that have historically been "women's" professions--teaching, nursing, etc. have been under non-stop attack by the RW.
The right to control our bodies by way of birth control is one of the latest attacks. Attacks on Planned Parenthood are just one example, attacks on Sandra Fluke are just another.

So..."you" may not think that there is a war underway--but I am guessing that YOU have the luxury of having a name like HOMER...so that you might not understand the nuance of the attacks.

Let me put it as simply as I can. "Male" jobs are going away and they aren't coming back so the eyes are going to the "female" jobs. Now, it would be difficult to just walk in and fire the women and replace them with men....so you just can't do that. No...instead, we are reverting back to a mindset of "barefoot and pregnant" in the kitchen. IF that can be accomplished, then women certainly will be leaving their jobs in troves.

Do you get it now?

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
27. fucking incredible to me
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 03:46 PM
Mar 2012

what does it take to see that women are being attacked at their most basic level of being - their bodies?

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
29. Yep.
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 03:57 PM
Mar 2012

They have been fighting to control our uteruses for a very long time.

Now it is a full blown assault.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
26. Or, as Primo Levi said: "If Not Now, When?"
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 03:45 PM
Mar 2012

in response to fighting Nazis as part of the resistance and REFUSING to accept second-class citizenship - to fight to the death rather than allow fascists to control a continent.

 

Homer03

(49 posts)
28. what do you know?
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 03:47 PM
Mar 2012

You I am sure have not been in a war. Keep being as big a jackass as the right is and you will get to experience it. This issue has produced more hyperbole that anything in our present day strife. Dont be like them.

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
30. The only one that is "like them" seems to be you
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 04:01 PM
Mar 2012

You are just asking women to lay back and enjoy it...

You are asking women to not make a big deal out of this, he didn't really mean to do it...

You are fucking kidding me? Tell you what.

You worry about YOUR dick and we will worry about OUR uteruses.

We wouldn't want you to worry your pretty little head over things that don't concern you.

Response to Horse with no Name (Reply #30)

Response to Horse with no Name (Reply #30)

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
32. I'll second what the above DUer wrote:
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 04:08 PM
Mar 2012

Are you fucking kidding me?

Rush Limbaugh's sustained slander was nothing short of outrageous. Anything short of nationwide outrage is inappropriate in this situation.
What the hell is this "don't be like them" about? We've let neanderthal pigs like Rush Limbaugh get away with "slut shaming" for far too long already. We've been too nice. Women are angry now, and for good reason.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
35. But where's the fascism? I don't understand.
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 04:19 PM
Mar 2012

I think it's a perfectly understandable, perfectly reasonable response.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
39. Okay, but I was asking Homer03 where is this "fascism" from the left / from women...
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 04:36 PM
Mar 2012

I am wondering, what is "fascist" in the slightest, in regards to female veterans wanting Rush pulled from the airwaves?

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
46. I was waiting for his response. Crickets. I thought he was stumped...
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 06:58 PM
Mar 2012

Oh well, he wouldn't have had much substance to his assertion anyway. He seemed like one of those "dittohead" sycophants always rushing to defend their master, Rush.

There's just no excuse for a liberal, progressive, democrat, etc. to defend Rush Limbaugh in this case. Really none, whatsoever.

It's so egregious, this is one of those litmus tests for being a liberal. You could even say it's a litmus test for being a reasonable human being.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
37. Wow. You really DO. NOT. GET. IT.
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 04:30 PM
Mar 2012

Let me propose a bill to shove a metal object up your ass by order of the state and then you can get back to me on this.

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
42. Amen Sister
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 05:31 PM
Mar 2012

It is my RIGHT to allow or disallow ANY penetration of my body by any object, not the governments and for all of the MEN who think it is OKAY to allow the government to RAPE me then I propose we line them up and stick a metal rod up their ass and let them UNDERSTAND why we object.

Lost-in-FL

(7,093 posts)
43. Female Vets have it bad as it in the military...
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 05:38 PM
Mar 2012

We don't need the Pentagon force feeding men, women and their families garbage that encourage blatant sexism in the military. Male soldier rape their female (sometimes male) comrades and they get away with it. If we allow Rush to get away with this attack and his show continues to be broadcasted in military stations for service members and their families to hear, how would we expect soldiers to respect other nations citizens if we encourage them (through this kind of programing) to disrespect their own?

I had my roommate raped by an officer at a party and when she reported him, he was switched to another unit while she was demoted for "fraternizing with an officer". We have to stop a culture in the military in which women can be insulted while the offender gets away with it.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
47. exactly. It has always stunned me that AFN was so willing to put this scum on the airwaves
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 07:10 PM
Mar 2012

The sort of vitriol that Rush engages in is promotes a rape culture mentality - and not just in the military.

if you heard him talk about this, I swear he sounds he's stroking his titties like Fat Bastard. grotesque.

Lost-in-FL

(7,093 posts)
48. Ewwww...
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 07:15 PM
Mar 2012

I'm going to have nightmares tonight!

But seriously. He should've been fired from military airwaves during his Guantanamo Resort stunt. Imagine just for a second that those serving at that base were forced to listen to Rush for lack of other choices. Ironically, this was around the time torture become attractive to the military unfortunately.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
36. False equivalence from you
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 04:27 PM
Mar 2012

To FIGHT BACK is not wrong - but you are saying it is.

You are obviously not a female and don't know what it's like to see a bunch of withered limp dick men trying to tell you what health care decisions you can make.

You would do well to back away on this because you, obviously, have NO IDEA what this situation is like for women who have had to fight for centuries for rights that males took as their god-given privilege.

You're fighting the wrong fight here.

Frances

(8,545 posts)
40. Zero tolerance for verbal sexual harassment!
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 05:23 PM
Mar 2012

I think that is what the Armed Forces Radio would be showing if they pull Rush Limbaugh off the air.

GoldenOldie

(1,540 posts)
41. More loud voices should be heard from the male veterans
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 05:30 PM
Mar 2012

My grandson, has recently returned from his 2nd tour the last being in Afghanistan. He has finished his service and is in the process of reaquainting himself with his 3-yr old daughter, whom he adores and his wife who is completing law school. He is livid, and that is putting it nicely, about the vile comments that Rush Limbaugh has made about women. He and many of his male friends have taken it as attacks against all women they have known and the women their daughters will become.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
44. agree!
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 06:14 PM
Mar 2012

and glad to hear your grandson is safe - and that he recognizes why Limbaugh needs to be gone from AFN

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