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calimary

(81,365 posts)
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 09:07 PM Oct 2013

Did you know Rand Paul isn't a legitimately-certified doctor?

Last edited Wed Oct 16, 2013, 10:53 PM - Edit history (1)

I did not, until I spotted another item on the right-side margin while reading Salon.com.

My apologies if this has been posed before, 'cause it is a somewhat older story, but this is the first I have seen it. The fellow who traded his ophthalmology business for the U.S. Senate is not a legitimately board-certified ophthalmologist. The key certifications for practicing ophthalmologists come from the American Board of Ophthalmology and its regional and other subsidiaries. rand paul is not certified by the American Board of Ophthalmology. He is certified by the National Board of Ophthalmology, which is not recognized by the American Board. The National Board of Ophthalmology was founded in 1999 - by none other than rand paul. There's a mere handful of other "doctors" who've received "certification" from this outfit since its founding - something like a whole seven of them.


http://www.salon.com/2010/06/14/rand_2/

If you've seen this before, please forgive me. You're way more observant than I. But seriously, I think we need to keep an eye on this guy. He's pretty calculating. Notice how he's laid low during this whole GOP defunding/defaulting shitshow and allowed ted "the ego" cruz to suck up all the oxygen - and take all the heat and the slings and the arrows. This is a wily one, and we need to keep our antenae fully up and scanning carefully around him. Don't trust him any farther than you can throw your house. And that's the conclusion of the Salon piece here - TRUST. Granted, this is a picky little detail. But it means much more on a much larger and more profound scale when you consider character, and the measure of the man. Critical when you consider he'll very likely offer himself as a GOP alternative to ted cruz in 2016. If he games the system to get a board certification, what would he do in a position of high national authority and responsibility?

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Did you know Rand Paul isn't a legitimately-certified doctor? (Original Post) calimary Oct 2013 OP
He is, however, certifiable. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2013 #1
DUzy. lol brer cat Oct 2013 #5
He is licensed but not Board certified. And not very trustworthy. uppityperson Oct 2013 #2
That explains his unusual bedside manner... pinboy3niner Oct 2013 #3
His founding the fake board shows a real commitment to misleading people. Squinch Oct 2013 #4
We had lots of discussions here when he was running for office malaise Oct 2013 #6
Self-certified. The pinnacle off capitalist efficiency! n/t JBoy Oct 2013 #10
Thanks for this info... ReRe Oct 2013 #7
R#9 & K for, will check this out MORE!1 n/t UTUSN Oct 2013 #8
Who trusts a myopic opthamologist? Scootaloo Oct 2013 #9
Diabetic sugar farmers? Aerows Oct 2013 #20
welllll, since he isn't even a certified human being. . . . niyad Oct 2013 #11
I didn't know that. Pretty creepy if you ask me. He can practice without okaawhatever Oct 2013 #12
And he's funny-looking, too! Iggo Oct 2013 #13
The ethics of a carbuncle. n/t A HERETIC I AM Oct 2013 #14
Tea party voters are like mushrooms, they are kept in the dark and fed shit nt IronLionZion Oct 2013 #15
unfortunately he's right shireen Oct 2013 #16
I'm sorry. But isn't practicing medicine without a license a crime? alphafemale Oct 2013 #17
You can legally practice medicine without being board certified (nt) Nye Bevan Oct 2013 #18
you can have a license without being board certified... magical thyme Oct 2013 #19
Still misleading. WILLFULLY misleading. calimary Oct 2013 #21
I'm not doubting that it is willfully misleading and disgusting. magical thyme Oct 2013 #22
Seems to me those certifications are challenging to get because they're supposed to be! calimary Oct 2013 #23
Is he even practicing any more? MineralMan Oct 2013 #24
Good point, and certainly it's not any main attack point. But it contributes profoundly. calimary Oct 2013 #25
Old news-Rand Paul is a liar and a fraud Gothmog Oct 2013 #26

Squinch

(50,958 posts)
4. His founding the fake board shows a real commitment to misleading people.
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 09:14 PM
Oct 2013

I think that's the nicest thing I can say about him.

malaise

(269,100 posts)
6. We had lots of discussions here when he was running for office
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 09:17 PM
Oct 2013

It's amazing - he certified himself - how's that for libertarian?

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
7. Thanks for this info...
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 09:23 PM
Oct 2013

I live near KY and I don't remember ever hearing this come out when he was running for the Senate. Wonder why he had to create his own board of certification? Because he flunked the American Board test too many times?

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
12. I didn't know that. Pretty creepy if you ask me. He can practice without
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:09 AM
Oct 2013

board certification, I assume, so it's just an ego thing to him I guess. Kind of a sad statement about his priorities.

shireen

(8,333 posts)
16. unfortunately he's right
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 01:21 PM
Oct 2013

Politicians have learned the art of doing it well (except those like Bernie Sanders who continue to succeed despite the odds). So do people in powerful positions.

Misinformation. Manipulation. Lying. Stealing. Pretty much sums up much of human history.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
17. I'm sorry. But isn't practicing medicine without a license a crime?
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 01:55 PM
Oct 2013

Yeah so he has a stupid make believe license.

If he is actually practicing medicine shouldn't he be in prison?

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
19. you can have a license without being board certified...
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 03:57 PM
Oct 2013

But hospitals and clinics prefer to hire board certified.

calimary

(81,365 posts)
21. Still misleading. WILLFULLY misleading.
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 03:38 PM
Oct 2013

That speaks louder than any hair-splitting - board-certified or licensed or whatever (at least to me). More evidence of how duplicitous and sneaky-ass he is. And that he sees regulations and specifications as being some annoyance merely to get around so you can do whatever you damn well please. Well, THAT, immediately there, is reason enough to keep somebody like him out of the White House! Would YOU go to a doctor who just declared himself board-certified? Would you trust your vision, your hearing, your general health, to somebody like that? I wouldn't, in a BILLION years!!! I might as well declare myself a decent surgeon because I know how to embroider and cut my own meat.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
22. I'm not doubting that it is willfully misleading and disgusting.
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 11:18 AM
Oct 2013

However, practicing medicine without a license would be a felony.

And no, I wouldn't trust my health to somebody who invented their own board certification so they wouldn't have to go through the challenges of board certification.

I'm a board certified Medical Laboratory Technician with ASCP, one of the two major boards and the one recommended by the program I trained in. It's extremely hard work to get certified. It's ongoing, continuing education to remain certified.

calimary

(81,365 posts)
23. Seems to me those certifications are challenging to get because they're supposed to be!
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 11:42 AM
Oct 2013

You shouldn't be able to just get your certification by filling out the back of some cereal box and mailing it in, okay? You should have to go through some stringent tests to PROVE you're qualified. What did rand paul think he was entitled to do? Just say so? And the rest of us just simply take his word for it? Well, his word isn't any good. Heck, I'd want 9,000 kinds of proof and 30-times on Sunday with a corner-cutter like him. republi-CONS are all about flouting rules, breaking rules, cutting corners, getting around stuff. 'Cause basically they're like two-year-olds: "NOBODY IS THE BOSS OF ME!!!" "NOBODY TELLS ME WHAT TO DO!" (I remember an interview with Monica Lewinsky, of all people, where she recalled her youth, her formative years, and a tantrum she threw as, literally, a two-year-old, stamping her little feet and huffing her little huff-n-puff stuff, and yelling at her mom "NOBODY IS THE BOSS OF ME!!!" Literally. Dear God that just burned into my mind when I saw that! It was just SO typical! It struck me as such a perfect encapsulation of that whole myopic mental condition and, unfortunately, worldview - of selfishness, greed, thoughtlessness, elitism, not taking anyone or anything else into account, just me, me, and more ME.)

That mentality is toxic in situations like this. That mentality sets up a condition that demands NO cooperation, NO compromise, NO willingness to make room for anybody else, NO willingness to consider another point of view. Just a whole lotta NO. It's not generous. It's not welcoming. It's not inclusive. It's not problem-solving. It's not open-minded or broad-minded. It's not anything of much benefit to the greater good of all in your community. It's a pinched, closed, shortsighted, selfish, unrealistic, narrow, sequestered, exclusionary, smug, haughty, egotistical, angry, bitter, resentful, and increasingly mean-spirited worldview that stops (indeed, that MUST stop) at the tip of your own nose. More mean-spirited all the time - as those who embrace it see the world, and the times, and the trends cycling VERY clearly AWAY from how they see things, and how they think things "ought to" be. limbaugh even wrote a book about that, I believe it was his first: titled "The Way Things OUGHT to be." And hell, you see that attitude EVERYWHERE in their camp. Last year, ann romney was almost literally the cover girl for that.

MineralMan

(146,320 posts)
24. Is he even practicing any more?
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 11:47 AM
Oct 2013

He is a legitimate MD, but isn't a board-certified ophthalmologist. This seems to me to be a poor way of attacking him, frankly, and very weak politically. Folks who are MDs can practice pretty much any way they like, board-certified or not. They may not get hospital admitting privileges in whatever specialty they've chosen without it, but they're still allowed to practice.

Rand Paul's politics are more than adequate as a means of attacking him politically. This isn't the way to do that, frankly.

Oh, and Fuck Rand Paul. His Dad, too.

calimary

(81,365 posts)
25. Good point, and certainly it's not any main attack point. But it contributes profoundly.
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 12:05 PM
Oct 2013

It's a metaphor. If he's cheating on this, where else is he cutting corners? If he's gaming the system here, where else is he doing it? And how badly? What fast one is he trying to pull today? It's indicative. An indicator. A signal. Evidence to underscore the basic measure of the man. It's revealing of the type of individual he is, his tendencies, his defaults if you will. It's instructive and indicative of the kind of things he's likely to do and ways he's likely to respond in the future. You want someone who bends the rules because he either can't or won't or maybe doesn't feel like he has to conform to those rules? That he thinks they don't apply to him? That he can selectively apply to his own life, practice, business, representation, whatever? And HE chooses? So for the state of Kentucky, HE chooses? With THAT attitude?

I certainly don't want a "representative" like that!!!! Where he decides what's good for me and my family and my community based on what HE finds convenient? With that scofflaw attitude? Our reps whom we elect to go into government (where there are these things called "laws" and "rules" and "regulations" and fully-vetted "standards" and "guidelines&quot get into government and turn their noses up at those things, and decide they're just gonna do it their way and fuck the rest of you?

It's a small thing. So is caulking. Dumb little annoying detail. Who gives a flying F? Until your tiles start falling out of your bathroom walls because you didn't think you needed to bother with any. So is decent wiring. Big deal, just grab that old stuff over there with the cracks in the insulation and the bare copper showing. NUTHIN'S GUNNA HAPPEN... I don't wanna spend the money. Why should I have to go to the trouble of going out and buying new? This'll be good enough! Until something DOES happen, and the resulting fire that got started burns the whole frickin' house down.

Gothmog

(145,415 posts)
26. Old news-Rand Paul is a liar and a fraud
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 01:06 PM
Oct 2013

Rand Paul is a liar and a fraud. This self-certification is sad and is a joke. Rand Paul is a sad person who is unable to tell the truth

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