Peter Gabriel to Rush Limbaugh: Stop using my music...

[one_voice]

Peter Gabriel has asked that this response be published when he found out that his track 'Sledgehammer' has been used on the Rush Limbaugh show:

'Peter was appalled to learn that his music was linked to Rush Limbaugh's extraordinary attack on Sandra Flute. It is obvious from anyone that knows Peter's work that he would never approve such a use. He has asked his representatives to make sure his music is withdrawn and especially from these unfair aggressive and ignorant comments. '

http://petergabriel.com/media/article/2606/peters-response-to-sledgehammer-on-the-rush-limbaugh-show/

[ProSense]

1. TPM

Peter Gabriel Tells Rush Limbaugh To Stop Playing 'Sledgehammer'

Peter Gabriel's official Web site posted this message Monday, upon the British songwriter finding out that his song "Sledgehammer" is sometimes used as introduction music on Rush Limbaugh's radio show, including when Limbaugh made his controversial comments attacking Sandra Fluke:

Peter Gabriel has asked that this response be published when he found out that his track 'Sledgehammer' has been used on the Rush Limbaugh show:

'Peter was appalled to learn that his music was linked to Rush Limbaugh's extraordinary attack on Sandra Flute. (sic) It is obvious from anyone that knows Peter's work that he would never approve such a use. He has asked his representatives to make sure his music is withdrawn and especially from these unfair aggressive and ignorant comments.'

Gabriel's own politics have long been associated with progressive causes, such as his support of the Labour Party in Britain, and his anti-Apartheid activism and song "Biko" in the 1980s.

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/peter-gabriel-tells-rush-limbaugh-to-stop-playing

[one_voice]

3. Thanks! n/t

[railsback]

2. Amazed we haven't heard from..

Chrissie Hynde yet.

[stlsaxman]

23. Some years back Chrissie told Rush to stop and Rush said name a price...

she said $50,000/year and he said fine.

dunno if 50k is exact but Rush is paying her a LOT to use that song.

[Son of Gob]

45. All proceeds go to PETA.

[awoke_in_2003]

55. oh, that is great....

I hope it irritates him to no end.

[baldguy]

96. "Rush Limbaugh supports PETA" - what a headline.

[MrMickeysMom]

65. I guess everybody has their price...

Chrissie Hynde sure does.... Too bad.

[stlsaxman]

66. see post 45... Chrissie has class after all.

[malaise]

4. I'm lovin' it

Rushed has been rushed out of fashion in one fell swoop

Best International Women's Day gift ever!!!

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

5. Why doesn't Rush just use conservative music? Primitive grunts and underarm farts

[izquierdista]

10. I'm sure he could get Ted Nugent to perform it live.

[klook]

41. +1 (n/t)

[11 Bravo]

101. Ted won't just stop at farts. He'll even shit himself if it will keep him from having to fight ...

in any of the wars he wants to see fought by somebody else.

[mahina]

26. +1

thanks

[Tarheel_Dem]

39. Cause their music sucks? Progressives are just more creative, naturally. They have to work at it.

[daligirl519]

43. How about Prussian Blue?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_Blue

[KharmaTrain]

6. Fair Use...

For years Chrissie Hynde tried to get rushbo to drop her tune "My City Was Dead" as his theme but under the "fair use" doctrine as long as you use 15 seconds or less of a piece of music or video it's not a violation of copyright.

[Richardo]

8. It's still a sleazeball move.

No surprise there, I guess.

I did not know that about fair use. Thanks.

[KharmaTrain]

38. It Goes All Kind Of Ways...

Rachel plays clips of Rushbo's show...that's also "fair use" as are excerpts from Faux Noise shows. Music for radio was determined that a small snippet shouldn't be considered a "full play" or could be used for commercial purposes. In the "biz" we call it "bumper music"...and you'll hear all types of popular music hooks. I was hearing Ed Schultz and his show uses Guns & Roses...somehow I don't think Axl Rose is a fan. LOL.

[Richardo]

58. Interesting...

I love 'inside baseball' stuff. Thanks!

[myshadow1]

21. I wondered about that.

I'm sure she doesn't think it's very 'fair'. She doesn't even get publishing for it's use daily?

[KharmaTrain]

36. See Above...

She does get a small royalty payment. It's based on the amount of music a radio station plays...which for a "talk" station isn't much. She donates the proceedes to PETA.

[saras]

27. That's actually not true unless she already signed away her moral rights to the song - which many do

If you DON'T sign away your moral rights (which you basically do if you license the song to someone), you retain a right to disapprove of people using it - and using it as a theme for a radio or TV show is NOT fair use, no matter how little is used. It's not critical commentary, it's not creating new work, it's simply using their work without permission for personal profit.

[KharmaTrain]

32. Part Of The Royalties Agreement...

Hynde did try to stop Rushbo from using her music but it was cited that use was covered under the broadcast/recording company agreements...RIAA, SESAC and BMI. Fair use is part of that agreement (or was...they're debating over a new agreement that may do away with fair use in the future) and thus covered under station licensing fees which are very low for stations that play little to no music. Whatever royalties Hynde gets she donates from PETA.

A lot of useful information about Hynde's attempts in '97 and other fair use here:

http://ask.metafilter.com/48170/how-did-rush-limbaugh-get-rights-to-my-city-was-gone

[underpants]

40. I think that that is hilarious that his money goes to PETA

way to go Chrissy!!!

I have read that his choice of music is sarcastic because he knows the artists don't like it being on his show.

[GReedDiamond]

63. Fair use was not an issue in the case of Pig Limbaugh's use...

...of "My City Was Gone."

Check out the Wikipedia entry on this, you'll see that:

1) Limbaugh initially used the song without license or permission, and bragged about how he was screwing over an "environmentalist, animal rights wacko."

2) The Hillbilly Heroin addict stopped using it when pressured to, but, shortly after that,

3) Hynde agreed to let Pigboy use the song if he paid an annual $100,000 licensing fee, which ultimately goes to PETA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_City_Was_Gone

Editing copyrighted original material down to four bars/15 seconds or less and calling it "bumper music" does not typically qualify the usage of the copyrighted material as "fair use" to for-profit radio programs such as Limbaugh's hatefest.

[firehorse]

90. Radio stations have a "broad licence" and can play any song they want according to

John Schaffer on Soundcheck, local NYC radio station. He was just talking about Rush using sledgehammer and said that in response.

[GReedDiamond]

61. I'm a published songwriter, w/a publishing company...

...which is affiliated with Broadcast Music, Inc. (BMI).

I have never heard of "moral rights" in the music publishing business.

There are different types of licensing fees, such as live performance, mechanical reproduction, master use licensing for movies and tv, foreign subpublishing agreements, (I'm signing such an agreement within the next week or two), and so on, but "moral rights" is new to me.

Also, while it is possible to "sign away your moral rights," it does not necessarily mean that you give up any rights "if you license the song to someone" - usually it means that you retain full ownership of the material, but are willing to license the work to others in exchange for an agreed upon percentage of royalty payments from monies generated by the licensee.

"Bumper music" was mentioned by someone, as used on talk radio shows such as Pig Limbaugh's, and is often regarded as being an example of "fair use," but, as you note, it is not fair use in such instances.

In the case of Chrissie Hynde, as someone else mentioned, she licensed the use of The Pretenders' song to Limbaugh, but that does not mean she has given up her or the band's copyrights and publishing.

The business aspect of music is complicated enough without erroneous "information" being spread, so I'd like to correct the record here, no offense intended.

[harmonicon]

75. Thank you for writing that.

I'm involved with music semi-professionally, and it really pains me how ignorant people are about copyright vs. licensing vs. publishing, etc.

It seems that whenever one of these things (it's usually copyright) comes up in a discussion, a lot of things get confused in most people's arguments.

[GReedDiamond]

79. It starts out simple enough...

...as a few chords and words, and then it gets more and more complicated as the whole process of arranging, rehearsing, recording, releasing, promoting, etc etc, becomes something like a full-time job.

Misconceptions surrounding the technical/legal aspects of publishing, licensing and so on, don't help the situation, especially when, after all of that effort, time and money, the songwriter (or writers) lack understanding of how the system works, and they end up screwing themselves by signing the wrong papers.

[harmonicon]

80. I've worked on it like a full-time job before.

That's what made me decide that I didn't want to do it full-time. I just absolutely hate the business side of music. That's part of what made me put more focus on "classical" music and less on "pop".

What bothers me the most right now is how monopolies like ASCAP/BMI and their associated lobbying groups, like the RIAA, are supporting legal efforts which I consider to be incredibly detrimental to my work and the culture at large.

This is why I refuse to be registered with any of the rights-collecting bodies, but at the same time, I think I should be. I know I'd make hundreds and occasionally thousands a year from it, but I don't want to be associated with groups that I consider to be both con-artists and shake-down-artists.

[GReedDiamond]

82. I hear ya, have you looked into SESAC?

Or The Harry Fox Agency?

I've been affiliated with BMI since the early 80s, but I'm about to sign a foreign subpublishing agreement, so our catalog will be represented full-time by another publisher in the global market. So, I need do nothing at that point, but hope for some decent offers to work through to me.

How are ASCAP/BMI etc negatively affecting the culture of classical music? Sorry to say, I'm not aware of what's happening there, but if I were to guess - are they somehow restricting/licensing what should be public domain works? I've heard of such efforts by companies like Disney, who do not want their iconic characters like Mickey Mouse entering the public domain.

[harmonicon]

86. I have looked into SESAC

I'm a bit put-off by their for-profit status and lack of transparency in general. I've been living in the UK for five years now and don't really know where I'll be in a few years. I have a friend here who's registered with GEMA (that's the German equivalent) and thinks they're excellent - better than PRS (the UK one) or the US ones, but I think a lot of that has to do with where you're getting more performances (he and I are primarily composers), broadcasts, etc. with determining who is the best.

What I mean about ASCAP/BMI negatively affecting the culture is through their support of things like ACTA, PIPA, etc. I also don't like how they shake down people like independent record store owners for licenses. I really don't think that record store owners should have to pay to play records they're trying to sell in their stores, but since these groups have a monopoly, there isn't much they can do to argue against it. Another example: I know some guys who run a low-key concert series where all of the events are free. They still got demands from ASCAP and BMI both to pay for a license. I'm really against that, especially as most of the composers who get works played there, I'm certain, would happily give up any performance royalties generated from performances at that venue. Basically, where the RIAA goes, they seem to go, and I think the RIAA is about the worst organization in existence right now when it comes to combating the advancement of culture and technology.

[GReedDiamond]

88. Yeah, I remeber when the RIAA was about...

...setting technical standards for mastering records back in the late fifties/early sixties.

They are quite evil now, no doubt.

And, yes, I think non-profits, such as free music festivals, should not be forced to pay licensing fees, no argument there.

I like to think we're soon going to reverse the bad course we've all been on since 1981...on all levels.

[They_Live]

84. Me also

Thanks!

[Richardo]

7. Now, if only Chrissie Hynde would make him stop using "My City Was Gone"

[OriginalGeek]

14. I am 87% sure she tried many years ago

to get him to quit.

Hmmm..I wanted to be factual so I searched and found this at her wikipedia entry:

In 1997, Hynde battled Rush Limbaugh over using her song "My City Was Gone" without permission. After Limbaugh agreed to donate royalties to PETA, she let him use the song.[10]

Personally, I don't think that's a good enough reason to let him continue...

[MrMickeysMom]

76. I agree with that...

It's not a good enough reason to let him continue...

I'd also like to see what this enabled that fat slob to write off over the years of his raping and pillaging OUR airwaves with his nonsense, non-stop lies.

I'll never listen to "My City Was Gone" thinking... "gee, think of how much PETA is being helped!" I'll only hear the music associated that that fat turd while thinking... "everyone has a price.... and no one can fight the good fight without having caved in FOR a price", such as Chrissie Hynde did by letting shit turd use that music.

Bad move .... It shows her integrity is gone right along with her city.

[HopeHoops]

9. It would be cool if Gabriel would put together a music video using silent Rush video clips and...

the background music "The Return of the Giant Hogweed" (1972 live studio version, Belgium)

Yeah, I know - the picture is Collins, but Gabriel is REALLY animated in this one.

On Edit: Fair's fair, ya know.

[muriel_volestrangler]

18. Or 'Not One of Us'

It's only water
In a stranger's tear
Looks are deceptive
But distinctions are clear
A foreign body
And a foreign mind
Never welcome
In the land of the blind

You may look like we do
Talk like we do
But you know how it is

You're not one of us
Not one of us
No you're not one of us
Not one of us
Not one of us
No you're not one of us

There's safety in numbers
When you learn to divide
How can we be in
If there is no outside
All shades of opinion
Feed an open mind
But your values are twisted
Let us help you unwind

[Quantess]

19. Interesting. I did not know old Genesis was prog rock.

I mean, that was *really* prog rock. Did King Crimson copy them, or the other way around? I can't say I especially liked it, but it was interesting.

[HopeHoops]

22. "In the Court of the Crimson King" was a major problem for Genesis. Think "The Lamb".

That was a serious competition for audiences. With the exception of "In The Beginning" (originally "From Genesis To Revelation&quot , all of Genesis up through "The Lamb" was progressive. I still lump "Trick of the Tail" and "Wind and Wuthering" in there. "And Then There Were Three" was the real divergence, but Hackett had just left the group (hence the name). From there, Collins took it more pop, but he could STILL perform the oldest of the songs with Gabriel's style.

As for the question, I don't think either copied the other. They were doing their own thing and only competing for dominance in the "progressive" field. Genesis was packing stadiums in the late 70's and early 80's and King Crimson always had light audiences at the time. They were very different by then. Genesis had become very formula and Crimson more improv. They went on for at least 45 minutes one time at Merriweather and I didn't recognize a damn thing - all improv.

By the way, herocleamantigaziana (sp? - not looking it up right now) is a real plant, the song is a ballad of what happened, and PA actually has a "Department of Hogweed Eradication". I'm not kidding. It was off of "Nursery Chryme" so I always thought it was fictional. 'Twas not.

There are a bunch of other videos from the studio in Belgium (72) including the only song I know of that never appeared on an album - "Twilight Alehouse". Very pretty song.

[NICO9000]

29. Glad to see another classic Genesis fan on DU!

Those videos from 1972 are awesome. I've had them on bootleg video for almost 30 years now. They finally got released officially on the "Genesis 1970-75" box a few years ago and I have a sneaking suspicion those old bootlegs were the source for a lot it.

Crimson's first LP was in 1969, so they came before Genesis released their first "real" album, "Trespass" the next year. I never saw much similarity between the two bands either, although Robert Fripp did play a major role on Gabriel's second LP, "Peter Gabriel aka Scratch."

[muriel_volestrangler]

31. When Genesis first wanted a touring drummer after Gabriel left, they used Bill Bruford

who had been in King Crimson (and Yes, of course). Phil Collins said he was the only person he'd trust with the drums (they did use Chester Thompson after that, though).

[NICO9000]

59. There's a great DVD of that tour

As an extra disc on the "Trick of the Tail" reissue. That was the last Genesis album i cared about. After that, very diminishing returns album after album (for me anyway).

[HopeHoops]

70. I still love "In the Beginning", and that predates Crimson. It's also how they got started.

They wrote the score for all of the songs that eventually appeared on the album and took it to a publisher to offer it for sale so a band could perform it. The publisher agreed, but only if they were the actual performers. They initially took the band name "Genesis", but there already was a band in the UK by that name so they changed their name to "Revelation". The other Genesis band dispersed and they switched back to "Genesis", so the album title in the UK was "From Genesis to Revelation". When it was released in the US it was given the title "In the Beginning". I guess they discovered drugs somewhere between then and creating "Trespass" because there are almost no similarities between it and their first album. And "In the Beginning" was DEFINITELY a "real" album, but I might put it in a different classification in the same way that I see a switch between "Trick of the Tail" and "And Then There Were Three, and another switch immediately afterward. It sort of went pop. Gabriel's line in "Sledgehammer" of "I have shed my skin" is a reference to his acceptance that art rock wasn't a viable option with the current generation.

Oh - I also like Camel.

[harmonicon]

77. Hold on there!

The first Genesis singles came out in 68 (I just looked it up - I thought it was 67, but I was wrong). Their first album came out in 69. I actually think that first record is a lot better than "Trespass" an a lot of their later stuff, for that matter. It's not much like their later work, but several of the songs on it are great, as is all of the playing. I'd certainly rather listen to "The Serpent" than one of the 80's singles.

I'm also glad to find that there are others who like those Genesis videos - I think that 72 stuff was the height of their greatness.

[muriel_volestrangler]

33. Not only is it real - giant hogweed also has 'venom' causing photosensitivity

Although an impressive sight when fully grown, giant hogweed is invasive and potentially harmful. Chemicals in the sap can cause photodermatitis or photosensitivity, where the skin becomes very sensitive to sunlight and may suffer blistering, pigmentation and long-lasting scars.

http://apps.rhs.org.uk/advicesearch/Profile.aspx?pid=458

[HopeHoops]

71. "They all need the sun to photo-sensitize their veNOM!"

"Still they're invincible. Still their immune to all our herbicidal battering."

They are, indeed, notoriously difficult to eradicate. And yes, unlike poison ivy, their venom is benign until exposed to sunlight and then WHAM! - you're screwed. It's a crime to propagate or even cultivate them in PA and many other states. "The Department of Hogweed Eradication" sounds like something from "The Onion", but it exists and they take their jobs very seriously.

[LiberalLovinLug]

91. Here's another prog rock veteran!

I was more into Yes, but Genesis was right up there. Hey all Progressives should appreciate progressive rock no? In my naive youth I thought contemporary rock music was only going to get more complicated, longer riffs, where music won out over the 3 minute "hit song". Yes, Camel, King Crimson, ELP, Gentle Giant, PMF, Renaissance and of course Genesis. And other bands like Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin had longer instrumental parts to their songs back then.

But then Disco barged in. WTF? I still don't know how that happened. For commercial radio, musicianship was trumped by anything short and dance friendly. I guess it fit in better with their advertisers.

I really started groovin to Peter when he put out his solo albums. My first big political cause I got behind was the fight against apartheid in South Africa, all because I heard the song "Biko" and so picked up the book and got educated.
Favorite PG album? I have to say Security. Shock the Monkey, I have the Touch, and my favorite.....The Family and the Fishing Net. Sorry can't find a good live version:

[sweetloukillbot]

94. And Then There Were Three is prog as well

It just had one big hit that wasn't - "Follow You Follow Me".
Actually there is prog on all of Genesis's albums, they just started burying it when they became superstars. But the highlights of their tours in the 80s were tunes like Domino and Home By the Sea, which were both prog masterpieces.

[HopeHoops]

95. "Eleventh Earl of Mar" and "One for the Vine" were definitely prog, but FYFM was the tipping point.

[sweetloukillbot]

97. True, But 3 also had Down and Out and The Lady Lies

Down and Out is one of their trickiest numbers and The Lady Lies has one of my favorite keyboard breaks. I'm not sure any of the songs hit the 10-minute mark, but there are plenty of tricky, keyboard-ey, passionate non-pop songs that hit around 6 minutes.
And I think if Duke were arranged the way they originally intended, with Behind the Lines->Duchess->Turn It on Again->Guide Vocal->Duke's Travels->Duke's End as a single 20-minute piece it would've been hailed as a prog masterpiece.

[HopeHoops]

98. Yeah, but then there was "Misunderstanding". Story follows...

On the Duke tour, we had seats at the Capital Center (has some corporate name now) that were about midway back on the floor and dead center. Some girl (about 15) in front of us talked through THE ENTIRE FUCKING CONCERT! But about halfway through, they started "Misunderstanding" and she jumped up and yelled "QUIET EVERYONE - THIS IS MY FAVORITE SONG!!!!"

They did songs from "The Lamb", "Cinema Show", and other classic pieces, but OH NO, she couldn't be bothered with that crap. She came for one song and one song only. If I'd had an inflatable carnival hammer I would have whapped her upside the head with it.

On another note, at the beginning of the concert I blew up a condom (did you know they get about 3' long and a foot in diameter?) and set it loose into the audience. Later it was bouncing around in the left bleachers. Then it flew overhead on its way to the other side's bleachers. It was still being tossed around after the concert ended.

[sweetloukillbot]

99. Haha - I think Genesis automatically has stories like that

But they get worse as the band got more successful. When I saw them at Dodger Stadium on We Can't Dance someone complained during the old medley (which that tour was Lamb, Dance on a Volcano, Firth of Fifth, Musical Box and I Know What I Like) that this stuff was boring and why don't the just play their hits like Sussudio.

[HopeHoops]

100. Speaking of Musical Box - that's the only tribute band supported by all current and former members.

I saw them do "The Lamb" tour with all 1200 B&W slides (3 screen) from the original tour. They do full costumes and use all vintage equipment (when possible) to recreate the experience as closely as possible. I also saw the "Selling England" tour. I wasn't in good enough health to see the "Trick of a Tail" tour, but I would have liked to. They probably won't be stateside for another year, but look for them.

[sweetloukillbot]

102. Missed them in October...

Tony Levin and Adrian Belew played the night after Musical Box and I figured if I'm going to see a close facsimile of a classic prog band, I'll go with the one that has actual members

[HopeHoops]

103. Wow. Did Adrian do "Sexy Rhino"? Seriously though, Musical Box is so damn close...

... they could fool even me - and I've worn out three vinyl copies of "The Lamb".

[sendero]

68. Wow.

... as a huge prog rock fan I would have to say that Genesis' music and King Crimson's couldn't be farther apart.

And Crimson literally launched the genre with 1969's In the Court of the Crimson King.

And that while I have great respect for Peter Gabriel, Genesis was never in King Crimson's league at all.

[harmonicon]

78. Them's fightin' words!

Genesis was never in King Crimson's league? The minor league? Yeah, I agree.

[sendero]

85. If you like.

... lightweight pap, Genesis is for you!

[harmonicon]

87. I don't actually care.

Both bands put out records that I like an awful lot, and both bands put out records that I think are pretty terrible.

[Icicle]

89. Fripp is the wildcard

A large part of what made King Crimson different from other "prog" bands was Robert Fripp's use of, invention of new types of, and general innovation in, electronic signal processing. He was always messing with his electronics to see what new sounds he could get from his guitar. Genesis was not as heavy into the effects, and had a regular keyboard in Tony Banks taking up the space Fripp's otherworldly noises made in KC.
When King Crimson dropped to being pretty much a 3-piece band (Starless And Bible Black, Red, et. al.) during the John Wetton phase, Fripp definitely made up for what would have otherwise been seen as a hole in their sound.

I'd say early Genesis and King Crimson can both lay just as much clam to the "prog" mantle.
The beauty of progresssive rock is it's innovation, I see the two bands as competitors, to be sure, but as allies instead of enemies.
=)

[tridim]

73. Wow, thanks for the link

I was a big fan of pre-Lamb Genesis in the 80's, but kind of forgot about them after college.

These videos sure beat the still photos and fanzine stuff I managed to aquire back then.

[HopeHoops]

74. Look for Musical Box to perform in your area.

They are the only tribute band sanctioned by all current and former members of Genesis. They loaned them all 1200 slides for the 3-screen display in the lamb concert and have provided choreography for the stage theatrics. Musical Box does their best to recreate the original experience, down to using the same vintage equipment. It's an amazing show.

[Loudmxr]

11. Good. I love PG.

My classmate TChad Blake has worked with PG for years.

Where was Rush on the South African issue?

I have a moving etching by Hilda Bernstein of "The Worker"

She knew and worked with Nelson Mandela and Steven Biko and was in prison for it.

The only way she could get out of prison for a few days were to take art classes.. hence my piece of art on my wall.

Love you darling

And now for your entertainment:

[truebrit71]

15. Seen PG a couple of times over the years, perhaps none more powerful than 1990 at Wembley...

...for the Nelson Mandela concert after he'd been set free...man I still get goosebumps thinking about that...

[nolabear]

12. Thank goodness! Every time they ran that clip I thought about it.

I can't imagine that Gabriel would condone such venom. Boy, Rush can't BUY a buddy right now.

[spanone]

13. k&r...

[Dont call me Shirley]

16. I've always admired you and your music Peter, now I know why!

[Justice wanted]

17. BRAVO PETER!

[ProfessionalLeftist]

24. Thank you Peter Gabriel.

Hope he sues.

[NICO9000]

25. Great to hear this

In watching those clips of pigboy, I thought I heard the strains of "Sledgehammer" in the background. Since PG is the polar opposite of everything the fat fuck stands for, this doesn't surprise me one bit.

Been a fan since the Genesis days. Thank you, Peter!

[JI7]

28. Why don't they just play Kid Rock, Kelly Clarkson etc

so they don't get into these problems. for all their attacks on liberals they sure love music made by liberals .

[KamaAina]

35. Clarkson is a Paulbot, not a full-on conservatroid

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly_Clarkson#Political_views

On December 29, 2011, Clarkson posted on Twitter that she would vote for US Congressman Ron Paul as a 2012 presidential candidate, saying, "I love Ron Paul. I liked him a lot during the last Republican nomination and no one gave him a chance. If he wins the nomination for the Republican Party in 2012 he's got my vote. Too bad he probably won't." After stating her support for Paul, she came under fire on Twitter, due to her pro gay rights and anti-death penalty views. She later apologized for the Tweet saying she did not intend to offend anyone. In a recent interview with Rolling Stone magazine Clarkson was asked about her comments in support of Paul and she replied with, "All I did was tweet what I thought, and people went crazy! All of a sudden, people were like, 'You hate gay people' - what? I didn't even endorse him. All I said was that I like him. I voted for Barack, so it's not even like I'm a hardcore Republican."

[Nostradammit]

67. Nobody could be that cruel.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

30. For many years now I've wondered when Peter

would come around.

Now it's time for Elton John to stop palling around with him, too!!

[nolabear]

34. I suggest Rush be required to use THIS Peter Gabriel song instead.

[klook]

42. Wow, so great - thanks for posting

Wonderful song, great video.

[calimary]

37. I was wondering when that would happen.

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I was wondering when Peter Gabriel, or someone around him, would take note, and realize that his good name is being damaged by his music being associated with this asshole. I'm glad he spoke up. Obviously he's not a listener, and maybe he doesn't have time for many newscasts either. Because I don't listen either, but I heard "Sledgehammer" in the background as what seemed like bumper music either fading up or fading down underneath him at one point when he was mouthing off about this.

I'm glad he spoke up and took a stand.

Oops! Almost forgot:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002374653

How to fight back at the local radio, with insights from a former radio person. As one of those, myself, I can vouch for the good ideas in it. I have personally personally witnessed how effective these strategies can be.

[Uncle Joe]

44. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, one_voice.

[grahampuba]

46. Big Time?

wouldn't Big Time be more suitable??

'the place where I come from is a small town
they think so small
they use small words
-but not me
I'm smarter than that
I worked it out
I've been stretching my mouth
to let those big words come right out

...I'll be a big noise with all the big boys
there's so much stuff I will own
and I will pray to a big god
as I kneel in the big church

..my parties all have big names
and I greet them with the widest smile
tell them how my life is one big adventure
and always they're amazed
when I show them round my house, to my bed
I had it made like a mountain range
with a snow-white pillow for my big fat head'

still one of my favorite bass lines.. Tony Levin.

[ms liberty]

47. I sent his company Real World Studios an email Saturday...

I used the contact page at their website. I've been a huge fan of his since I was a teenager and he was with Genesis. I knew he would not like his music playing behind that filth, he's a progressive AND has two daughters as well. I'm sure I'm not the only person to email, and his social media pages probably burned a hole through the subject all weekend! I like to think I helped of course, and I did get a very nice response from someone at Real World. I'm really glad he responded, and that he responded forcefully.

[craigmatic]

48. I hope this is finally the end of limpballs although I doubt that it really is.

[nytemare]

49. Looks like Limbaugh "Shocked the Monkey"

Gabriel has been a favorite artist of mine, and I hated to hear Limbaugh's comments with Sledgehammer playing in the background. Gabriel has been a true humanitarian for many years. Glad to see his music is being pulled from the show.

[DirkGently]

50. Lee Greenwood, Kid Rock, & Megadeth, guys. That's all you've got.

[Blue Owl]

56. Hey don't forget Hank Williams Jr.

really sweetens the deal...

[DirkGently]

57. Gack. Knew I was missing one.

Edit: Ooh. Charlie Daniels and Toby Keith. Maybe, "really bad country music" should just be one entry.

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

51. In honor of Rush, "Shock the Junkie"

[pink-o]

52. Sadly, Rush could prolly use any tune by Elton John...

...just pull one from his wedding video!!

WHY, Elton W*H*Y??????

[dfherher]

53. Spam deleted by cbayer (MIR Team)

[Dem_in_Nebr.]

54. What would be great is

if Peter would ask for a Million per year to go to Planned Parenthood!

And Rush would have to credit that on each show that he uses the song. . . .

[jeanmarc]

60. Thank you Peter!

I was disgusted to hear Gabriel's music as those Rush attacks were played over and over. Play some conservative music, Rush, you degenerate.

[trueblue2007]

62. i loooooooooooooooooooooooooove peter gabriel and SLEDGEHAMMER!!!

I HOPE HE SUES THE CRAP OUTTA LIMPBALLS

[MADem]

69. Maybe Rush can find something in the Ted Nugent playlist that strikes his fancy! nt

[grahamhgreen]

72. I was waiting for this!

[TwilightGardener]

81. Longtime fan of Peter Gabriel--thank you, sir.

[Glaisne]

83. Peter Gabriel is a

much better person than Rush Limbaugh could ever be.

[Paladin]

92. Good On You, Peter Gabriel. Thanks. (n/t)

[Paladin]

93. Good On You, Peter Gabriel. Thanks. (n/t)