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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 09:37 AM Oct 2013

Sanders Named to Budget Conference

Sanders Named to Budget Conference Sen. Sanders was appointed to a conference committee to try to reconcile separate budget documents passed by the House and Senate this year. “I look forward to the negotiations that will take place,” Sanders said on MSNBC. “The time is long overdue that we stood up for the working families of this country, for the children and for the elderly and not move toward deficit reduction on the backs of the most vulnerable people," Sanders said in a floor speech on WCAX-TV. VIDEO, LINK, LINK

http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/newswatch/101713

More about the Senate budget here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023869945

Stop giving Republicans an inch. Democrats need to remain united. During the Senate budget process, Democrats rejected chained CPI.

Senate Opposes ‘Chained CPI’ Cuts to Social Security, Veterans’ Benefits

WASHINGTON, March 22 – The Senate tonight voted to block cuts in benefits for Social Security and disabled veterans.

The amendment by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) put the Senate on record against changing how cost-of-living increases are calculated in a way that would result in significant cuts.

“The time has come for the Senate to send a very loud and clear message to the American people: We will not balance the budget on the backs of disabled veterans who have lost their arms, their legs and their eyesight defending our country. We will not balance the budget on the backs of the men and women who have already sacrificed for us in Iraq and Afghanistan, nor on the widows who have lost their husbands in Iraq and Afghanistan defending our country,” Sanders said.

The amendment opposed switching from the current method of measuring inflation to a so-called chained consumer price index. President Barack Obama favors a chained CPI as part of what the White House calls a “grand bargain” that Obama hopes to reach with congressional Republicans.

The proposed change would affect more than 3.2 million disabled veterans receiving disability compensation benefits from the Department of Veterans Affairs. Veterans who started receiving VA disability benefits at age 30 would have their benefits reduced by $1,425 at age 45, $2,341 at age 55 and $3,231 at age 65. Benefits for more than 350,000 surviving spouses and children who have lost a loved one in battle also would be cut. Dependency Indemnity Compensation benefits already average less than $17,000 a year.

More than 55 million retirees, widows, orphans and disabled Americans receiving Social Security also would be affected by the switch to a chained CPI. That figure includes 9 million veterans with an average yearly benefit of about $15,500. A veteran with average earnings retiring at age 65 would get nearly a $600 benefit cut at age 75 and a $1,000 cut at age 85. By age 95, when Social Security benefits are probably needed the most, that veteran would face a cut of $1,400 – a reduction of 9.2 percent.

A chained CPI would cut Social Security benefits for average senior citizens who are 65 by more than $650 a year by the time they are 75 years old, and by more than $1,000 once they reach 85.

Groups supporting Sanders include AARP, the AFL-CIO, National Organization for Women, the American Legion, Veterans of Foreign Wars, Disabled American Veterans, AMVETS and others.

Sanders is chairman of the Senate Committee on Veterans’ Affairs and the founder of the Defending Social Security Caucus.

http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/news/?id=41f5d32d-b4bf-4f0e-9ceb-7df622262cac


White House Praises Senate Budget

White House Press Secretary Jay Carney lauded the Senate for passing a budget early Saturday, its first in four years, which he said "will create jobs and cut the deficit in a balanced way." He also criticized the House for passing a budget that eliminates the deficit over the next ten years entirely through cuts, saying that "We will continue to insist that any solution has balance."

The full statement below:

Today, the Senate passed a budget plan that will create jobs and cut the deficit in a balanced way. Like the President's plan, the Senate budget cuts wasteful spending, makes tough choices to strengthen entitlements, and eliminates special tax breaks and loopholes for the wealthiest Americans to reduce the deficit.

The President and Democrats in Congress are willing to make difficult choices so we can cut the deficit while laying the foundation for long term middle class job growth. And it is encouraging that both the Senate and House have made progress by passing budgets through regular order. We will continue to insist that any solution has balance. The House Republican budget refuses to ask for a single dime of deficit reduction from closing tax loopholes for the wealthy and the well-connected but instead makes deep cuts to education and manufacturing while asking seniors and the middle class to pay more. That's not an approach we support and it's not an approach the majority of the American people support.

Now it is time for our leaders to come together to find common ground. The President has put a plan on the table that reflects compromise, and he will continue to work with both sides to see if there is an opportunity to reach a solution to our budget challenges. We hope we will find this compromise because that is what the American people expect and what they deserve.

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/white-house-praises-senate-budget

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022558947



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Sanders Named to Budget Conference (Original Post) ProSense Oct 2013 OP
Excellent news Mass Oct 2013 #1
+1,000. He will keep us informed, too. freshwest Oct 2013 #42
At least we know that there annabanana Oct 2013 #2
Who appointed him? Reid? MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #3
WHAT?!?!?!? It's like I woke up in some weird, utopian bizarro world this morning! bullwinkle428 Oct 2013 #4
Great news!!!! ebbie15644 Oct 2013 #5
k&r thanks for posting. nm rhett o rick Oct 2013 #6
Thrilled to know that! n/t MANative Oct 2013 #7
Great news to start the day! nt brer cat Oct 2013 #8
Best news I've heard all year. n/t SamYeager Oct 2013 #9
Bernie Sanders? HockeyMom Oct 2013 #10
Good lord, how did that happen? malthaussen Oct 2013 #11
Wow Liberalynn Oct 2013 #12
Excellent gopiscrap Oct 2013 #13
This.Is.Awesome! Greybnk48 Oct 2013 #14
Excellent, awesome, unbelievable! About time his voice was heard in an influential setting.!!!! northoftheborder Oct 2013 #15
K & R SunSeeker Oct 2013 #16
Really? That is a welcome surprise. n/t Laelth Oct 2013 #17
WOOT! Jackpine Radical Oct 2013 #18
when did Democrats I like start getting power? I know Sanders is an independent, but he's a Nanjing to Seoul Oct 2013 #19
Grayson! LOL! shireen Oct 2013 #40
He is probably one of the only 20 - 25 people in Congress I support completely Nanjing to Seoul Oct 2013 #51
i stand there too. shireen Oct 2013 #52
I'd go with that. NCarolinawoman Oct 2013 #53
This is what happens when one is sitting in the Cat Bird Seat! MoonRiver Oct 2013 #20
^^^This^^^ freshwest Oct 2013 #43
K&R sheshe2 Oct 2013 #21
Bernie, the Brooklyn version of Ethan Allen flamingdem Oct 2013 #22
One of the very few members of Congress whom I completely trust. AzDar Oct 2013 #23
others on the committee shireen Oct 2013 #24
Not a bad group on the left rurallib Oct 2013 #28
Happy to see my Congresswoman Lowey on the list n/t dorkzilla Oct 2013 #35
Thanks. I'm surprised no one commented on ProSense Oct 2013 #39
Some people are just stuck there, I guess. Thanks for the thread! n/t freshwest Oct 2013 #46
Like seeing Murray and Angus King on the list. As to the question, why so few from the House, the freshwest Oct 2013 #45
Nice bunch of Dems on list Robbins Oct 2013 #48
lends an air of credibility to whatever the conference hammers out, would be my guess... Volaris Oct 2013 #67
Every one of those Republican assholes voted against the 99% clean CR Nanjing to Seoul Oct 2013 #55
Very impressive list of Dems from the Senate- No Vested Interest Oct 2013 #68
Democrats Are The Minority In The House... KharmaTrain Oct 2013 #74
Wow ...A redeeming post ...sort of. L0oniX Oct 2013 #25
No, he isn't ProSense Oct 2013 #27
Bernie! Hooray! raging moderate Oct 2013 #26
Alright! dotymed Oct 2013 #29
The Problem The House Has DallasNE Oct 2013 #30
Yes, which is why they spent 200 plus days blocking it. n/t ProSense Oct 2013 #41
Is the Senate's Budget essentially the one from Simpson Boles committee? 2banon Oct 2013 #66
I Don't Believe It Has Chained CPI DallasNE Oct 2013 #70
Thanks for this, bookmarking and thanks for the spelling correction! :) 2banon Oct 2013 #77
Awesome Find dsteve01 Oct 2013 #31
Can we clone him? CrispyQ Oct 2013 #32
^^^^ This! ffr Oct 2013 #33
Clone him, Warren, Franken, Lewis, Pelosi, Dennis and Grayson! Nanjing to Seoul Oct 2013 #54
K&R. proverbialwisdom Oct 2013 #34
Excellent news! A glimmer of hope! dorkzilla Oct 2013 #36
Great news! avaistheone1 Oct 2013 #37
Good. K&R nt TBF Oct 2013 #38
Go get 'em Bernie! AtomicKitten Oct 2013 #44
It's a start..... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #47
Mahalo, PS! Cha Oct 2013 #49
Great news, thanks for posting it! (nt) Babel_17 Oct 2013 #50
bernie sanders is hopemountain Oct 2013 #56
Hopefully Bernie champions higher taxes on the wealthy during negotiations. roamer65 Oct 2013 #57
Yeah!!! blondie58 Oct 2013 #58
FINALLY Common sense will be injected into that committee. diabeticman Oct 2013 #59
k&r n/t RainDog Oct 2013 #60
Excellent news! cheapdate Oct 2013 #61
The Good News IS: SANDERS is on the Budget Committee! TrollBuster9090 Oct 2013 #62
Thanks. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #63
Brilliant! I'm thrilled Bernie is going to be there! sueh Oct 2013 #64
Bernie won't take any crap from Ryan. RoccoR5955 Oct 2013 #65
Nice! Contact Sen. Sanders and ask him to negotiate removing, or raising the cap. Amonester Oct 2013 #69
Excellent News cantbeserious Oct 2013 #71
Bernie will kick ass and take names! B Calm Oct 2013 #72
Very good news libdude Oct 2013 #73
excellent news ! nt steve2470 Oct 2013 #75
Best news.... vi5 Oct 2013 #76

malthaussen

(17,209 posts)
11. Good lord, how did that happen?
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 10:16 AM
Oct 2013

Unless they hope it will give some color of legitimacy to their committee. After all, he's just one voice.

-- Mal

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
18. WOOT!
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 10:37 AM
Oct 2013

Bring it on, Bernie!

Perhaps a new day is dawning.

As I wrote that, a beam of sunlight fell on my face from a clearing sky above me. Literally.

 

Nanjing to Seoul

(2,088 posts)
19. when did Democrats I like start getting power? I know Sanders is an independent, but he's a
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 10:42 AM
Oct 2013

better Democrat than most Democrats.

What's next? Warren replacing Durbin?

Grayson becoming Majority Whip in 2014?

shireen

(8,333 posts)
40. Grayson! LOL!
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 01:37 PM
Oct 2013

I'd PAY to watch him in action as whip -- maybe a hidden camera to watch him "whip" the conservative Dems. evilgrin: He has such a way with words, makes me laugh and cringe at the same time. Cool guy. Glad he's back in Congress.

 

Nanjing to Seoul

(2,088 posts)
51. He is probably one of the only 20 - 25 people in Congress I support completely
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 08:32 PM
Oct 2013

I miss Dennis.

Warren, Hinchey, Raul G, John Lewis, Wyden, Whitehouse, Reed, Franken, Sanders. . .you can see where I stand politically.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
20. This is what happens when one is sitting in the Cat Bird Seat!
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 10:46 AM
Oct 2013

President Obama and Dems are IN CHARGE!

shireen

(8,333 posts)
24. others on the committee
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 10:51 AM
Oct 2013

I'm delighted to see Sanders there. He is the conscience that the entire Congress should have!

The list

Progressives
Patty Murray (Wash.)
Ron Wyden (Ore.)
Bill Nelson (Fla.)
Debbie Stabenow (Mich.)
Bernie Sander (I-Vt.)
Sheldon Whitehouse (R.I.)
Mark Warner (Va.)
Jeff Merkley (Ore.)
Chris Coons (Del.)
Tammy Baldwin (Wis.)
Tim Kaine (Va.)
Angus King (I-Maine)

Interesting to see the two Independents on the committee.

Republicans
Jeff Sessions (Ala.)
Chuck Grassley (Iowa)
Mike Enzi (Wyo.)
Mike Crapo (Idaho)
Lindsey Graham (S.C.)
Pat Toomey (Pa.)
Ron Johnson (Wis.)
Kelly Ayotte (N.H.)
Roger Wicker (Miss.)

House
Paul Ryan (R-Wis.)
Tom Cole (R-Okla.)
Tom Price (R-Ga.)
Diane Black (R-Tenn.)

Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.),
James Clyburn (D-S.C.)
Nita Lowey (D-N.Y.).

Why so few from the House?

rurallib

(62,432 posts)
28. Not a bad group on the left
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 11:24 AM
Oct 2013

sure would have liked to see Warren.

Boy, looks like the Republican is civil war era group. And not from the republican party of that era.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
39. Thanks. I'm surprised no one commented on
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 01:23 PM
Oct 2013

the fact that Senate Democrats already rejected chained CPI. This is the budget they will be negotiating in conference.



freshwest

(53,661 posts)
45. Like seeing Murray and Angus King on the list. As to the question, why so few from the House, the
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 05:49 PM
Oct 2013
shameful behavior of the GOP in the HoR should disqualify them from cleaning septic tanks since that's their natural environment and they wouldn't want to give up the stench.

Hope Sanders will have them wishing they'd never opened their lying mouths to hurt so many people.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
48. Nice bunch of Dems on list
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 06:16 PM
Oct 2013

These won't just give the republicans what they want with nothing our side wants.Intresting both the independent senators on
there plus Clyburn from the house.

 

Nanjing to Seoul

(2,088 posts)
55. Every one of those Republican assholes voted against the 99% clean CR
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 08:49 PM
Oct 2013

And they are in charge of Budget negotiations??? Chickens, your guardian fox is here!

No Vested Interest

(5,167 posts)
68. Very impressive list of Dems from the Senate-
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 01:53 AM
Oct 2013

They are persons of depth, not just chatter.
Clyburn is the only AA that I see on the list.
Van Hollen is good; don't know much about Ms. Lowey's skills re budgets, though, now that I think about it, she may be on the House Budget committee.

Perhaps more House members will be appointed.

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
74. Democrats Are The Minority In The House...
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 08:27 AM
Oct 2013

...4 rushpublicans and 3 Democratic congresscritters. That's about right. I'd like to flip that number but that will require some major ass-kicking next November...

raging moderate

(4,307 posts)
26. Bernie! Hooray!
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 11:06 AM
Oct 2013

Bernie Sanders is the closest we have to a knight on a white horse. If anyone can save the day, he can. And he will.

dotymed

(5,610 posts)
29. Alright!
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 11:27 AM
Oct 2013

I can not believe that an actual PEOPLES CHAMPION will be on the budget committee.

Watch out Bernie, they will try hard to corrupt you.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
30. The Problem The House Has
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 11:32 AM
Oct 2013

In the budget negotiations is that they didn't expect the Senate to get serious and pass a budget so they passed a document that was little more than Republican talking points so they are saddled with the Ryan budget, essentially bringing a knife to a gun fight. The Senate budget is a pretty balanced document so any budget that emerges will look a lot like the Senate budget and that will rankle a lot of Republicans thinking they are entitled to get most of what they want but the Ryan budget does not serve them well for that purpose. Smarting from defeat, the Republican will again be looking for ransom to sooth their dented ego and that will be the biggest obstacle going forward -- damaged ego. Well, that ego is about to sustain a few more dents along the way. This probably means we go to the brink once again as they are slow learners.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
66. Is the Senate's Budget essentially the one from Simpson Boles committee?
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 12:30 AM
Oct 2013

Isn't that where the Chained CPI was spawned? And wasn't Ryan on that committee too? I'm trying to remember and piece this bit together with that..

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
70. I Don't Believe It Has Chained CPI
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 03:22 AM
Oct 2013

While it does use Simpson Bowles targets it does not do it in a like manner. Here is a link that has links to either a summary or the detail of the Senate budget. http://www.budget.senate.gov/democratic/index.cfm/senatebudget

I only read the summary.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
36. Excellent news! A glimmer of hope!
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 12:11 PM
Oct 2013

Too bad they didn't put Warren and Grayson on the committee. But this is a good turn of events at least.

Give 'em hell, Bernie!

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
56. bernie sanders is
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 09:23 PM
Oct 2013

for the people! his straightforward thinking, understanding of the issues & how things work in congress will be a great asset on the committee. he has a quiet but firm style - and is respectful of everyone.

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
62. The Good News IS: SANDERS is on the Budget Committee!
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 10:12 PM
Oct 2013
The Bad News Is: I give the Beltway Chattering Class five minutes before they start in with the meme about "Democrats not serious about budget talks. Appoint 'FAR LEFT EXTREMIST' Bernie Sanders to the Conference Committee."

Let's be honest here, it would take THREE SANDERS' on the committee just to counterbalance RYAN, let alone the others.

Still. This is a definite step in the right direction!

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
63. Thanks.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 10:55 PM
Oct 2013

A lot of people, especially young people, do not understand how low Social Security benefits are.

Here is one calculation about the average Social Security benefit for 2012:

he average monthly Social Security benefit for a retired worker was about $1,230 at the beginning of 2012. This amount changes monthly based upon the total amount of all benefits paid and the total number of people receiving benefits.

http://ssa-custhelp.ssa.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/13/

How much would a decrease of $1,000 per month in the CPI increases leave for the retiree in terms of purchasing power 20 years down the line?

I met a young man on the train this weekend. He had just got a job and was preparing to work hard. He said something about how easy it must be to be retired and on Social Security. I told him in dollar terms just how little Social Security pays. He was stunned. It's less than most people think, a lot less. That's the average. People who earn only minimum wage now will have far less. They really, really need the full CPI as do most seniors on Social Security. It isn't a penny too much right now.

We should raise the minimum wage. That will raise the income that is the basis for payroll or Social Security taxes. That's a good way to deal with the problem of the budget deficits. The minimum wage should be drastically increased.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
65. Bernie won't take any crap from Ryan.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 12:17 AM
Oct 2013

I would like to see him kick Ryan's ass!
Bernie may be older, but he is wiser.

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
69. Nice! Contact Sen. Sanders and ask him to negotiate removing, or raising the cap.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 02:03 AM
Oct 2013

Write to him massively. He wants and needs your support!

libdude

(136 posts)
73. Very good news
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 08:21 AM
Oct 2013

for ordinary people. Sen. Sanders has been a consistent voice for those who have no voice in government. I am sure that President Obama has been notified that it is Congress i.e. this group that will set the agenda. This morning he is still speaking of entitlement reform which is his compromise flag. This has to be rejected, this apeasement has damage this country by allowing the radical right wing to set the agenda, by being reasonable and to some extent weak, Obama has created the atmosphere that gave the Republicans the boldness to shut down the government and play with the debt ceiling. If he lacks the heart for the fight, stay out of the ring and let those who will throw punches get in. You do not compromise with people that you call extortionists, you destroy them.

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
76. Best news....
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 08:56 AM
Oct 2013

Between this and the standing strong on the debt/default/shutdown debackle there may be signs of life yet in my Democratic party.

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