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LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 01:46 PM Oct 2013

The TEABAGGER shut down cost us 24 BILLION dollars...

How much did the 41 repeal attempts cost the us taxpayer?

How much was the estimate to institute the ACA?

Have those spendthrift teabaggers wasted more of our hard earned tax dollars than these programs would cost?

edit: to change the word 'government' to TEABAGGER, because it's way more accurate.

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The TEABAGGER shut down cost us 24 BILLION dollars... (Original Post) LaydeeBug Oct 2013 OP
The republican/teabagger shut down. warrior1 Oct 2013 #1
How very true. Allow me to edit. nt LaydeeBug Oct 2013 #2
Since the Republicans are the ones who shut down the government, they should be Cal33 Oct 2013 #3
Divide the bill up between the Congressional districts of all the teabagger reps and make THEM pay. kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #4
Clearly we will have to raise revenues in order to pay this bill. nt LaydeeBug Oct 2013 #5
How? Boom Sound 416 Oct 2013 #6
Think of it like this berni_mccoy Oct 2013 #8
That makes sense Boom Sound 416 Oct 2013 #9
$24 Billion isn't the cost to the gov't. It's the loss to our economy berni_mccoy Oct 2013 #10
Alright, I'll buy that Boom Sound 416 Oct 2013 #11
How much did they waste Impeaching Clinton for a BJ? berni_mccoy Oct 2013 #7
 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
3. Since the Republicans are the ones who shut down the government, they should be
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 01:50 PM
Oct 2013

made to pay for it.

 

Boom Sound 416

(4,185 posts)
6. How?
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:30 PM
Oct 2013

I know they wasted dollars ridiculously passing passing bills to overturn the ACA, but how does shutting the govt cost dollars?

Is it terms of lost productivity?

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
8. Think of it like this
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:37 PM
Oct 2013

When you are driving down the highway and you slam on your brakes to avoid an accident, you put energy into stopping the vehicle (which is converted via friction of the brakes to heat energy). Then you must spend far more energy than you would have getting back to your original cruising speed.

Government operations, like anything else that requires a resource to keep their momentum, have similar resource requirements to stopping, starting and maintaining normal operation at expected pace.

One small, real example: After a week of no work and the first missed paycheck some people get pissed and leave, looking for a better job somewhere else. The government still needs a person to do that person's job, so they have to spend time and money finding a replacement and then training that new person before they are as effective as the person who left.

 

Boom Sound 416

(4,185 posts)
9. That makes sense
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:45 PM
Oct 2013

I'm not sure your particular example does but the analogy does.

I'm sure energy, time and money we're spend preparing for the shutdown and then again to spin up the wheels of govt but 24 billion seems wrong for various reasons. What's most disheartening is I've never seen the same figure twice.

Using the car a analogy, I guess it's like driving at highway speed which has the best fuel "economy." Then the car must come to a stop. In order to get back to highway speed it has the least amount of fuel economy.

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
10. $24 Billion isn't the cost to the gov't. It's the loss to our economy
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:54 PM
Oct 2013

For example, some fishermen have a limited time to fish for certain types of fish. They lost two weeks of time in Alaska for King Crab since they could not obtain permits and this is not something their going to get back.

Another example: tourism near or in National Parks. Local businesses depend on this, especially in the fall due to leaf-peepers. These businesses collectively lost millions of dollars per day due to greatly reduced number of tourists.

There are many more examples of unrecoverable losses.

The money that these people didn't make doesn't go into their bank accounts or to pay their bills. That means they have much less to spend, and as a result, less goods are exchanged. This ripples all the way through the economy in a snow-ball effect.

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
7. How much did they waste Impeaching Clinton for a BJ?
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:33 PM
Oct 2013

They will waste any amount of time and money pursuing their own interest.

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