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NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Dealers limit ammo sales due to high demand and shortages.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)LiberalLoner
(9,762 posts)He is a lying teabagger, just trying to get something to shove in his face to prove it.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)hard to prove a negative...
LiberalLoner
(9,762 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)that was signed into law by Obama he should be able to take one tab on his browser from porn to look up the bill.
Or you could just call him a lying POS and be done with it.
LiberalLoner
(9,762 posts)sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)just as easily as are bills.
http://thomas.loc.gov/home/bills_res.html
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)Peanut Butter Overlords have been seriously attacking suppliers, and working towards limiting sails, especially of twin mast ships. .
stillcool
(32,626 posts)it all makes much more sense now.
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)it is virtually impossible to deal with it all. Worse, several studies show that conservatives, especially bible beaters who wear funny hats and mis-spelled signs, are immune to facts which attack their position. Instead, it hardens their resolve.
OffWithTheirHeads
(10,337 posts)This is from today. You can buy all you can afford.
LiberalLoner
(9,762 posts)TeeYiYi
(8,028 posts)...since I've been able to find ammo for my Beretta Bobcat 22lr.
I use CCI MiniMag 40 Grain...otherwise, it jams. CCI MiniMags are simply NOT available.
They are not available at cheaperthandirt or anywhere else.
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/2-CCI30
If you know where I can find CCI MiniMag ammo, let me know.
TYY
OffWithTheirHeads
(10,337 posts)Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)Easy to look up...if it actually existed...and if it did, it was passed BY REPUBLICANS.
'Guy On Facebook' is always wrong.
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tridim
(45,358 posts)csziggy
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NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Damn political prisoners getting all roudy.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)Wow, what a delusional world that leads to!
Here are some FACTS:
By Megan Carpentier
Tuesday, April 2, 2013 10:49 EDT
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In March, Alliant Techsystems (also known as ATK), one of Americas biggest defense contractors, announced a contract with the Department of Homeland Security, Immigration and Customs Enforcement to provide .40-caliber hollow-point ammunition (used across the government for training purposes, because it breaks upon impact and thus doesnt ricochet). The contract, known as an Indefinite Delivery, Indefinite Quantity contract, is designed to allow the government flexibility for procurement over time or to avoid writing multiple contracts as needs change or supply dwindles, since the process is laborious and time-consuming. In the case of this ATK .40-caliber contract, it allows the Department of Homeland Security to purchase up to 450m rounds over up to five years, at its discretion.
Why would the Department of Homeland Security need 450m rounds, let alone for the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) alone?
To begin with, DHS houses a number of agencies with armed personnel, including the Coast Guard, Customs and Border Protection, the Transportation Security Administration, the US Secret Service and the Federal Protective Service (which provides security at all federal buildings around the country), in addition to ICE. It also houses the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center, which serves as an inter-agency law enforcement training organization for 91 federal agencies and has four US sites and one foreign training facility for agents of all those agencies.
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Theres no logic behind wanting the borders patrolled more militantly and bemoaning the supposed dissolution of the free enterprise system under Obama while simultaneously finding conspiracies behind the ultimate end results of both those positions. But at this point, theres no point in asking for logic when it comes to conspiracy notions about the Obama administration.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/04/02/gun-conspiracy-theorists-accuse-the-obama-administration-of-a-new-plot-against-ammo-and-it-is-full-of-holes/
(If you don't trust Raw Story, go to the article anyway and follow their links to the original sources.)
Social Security's OIG Responds to Concerns over Ammunition Procurement
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As we said in a recent post, our office has criminal investigators, or special agents, who are responsible for investigating violations of the laws that govern SSAs programs. Currently, about 295 special agents and supervisory special agents work in 66 offices across the United States. These investigators have full law enforcement authority, including executing search warrants and making arrests.
Our investigators are similar to your State or local police officers. They use traditional investigative techniques, and they are armed when on official duty.
Media reports expressed concerns over the type of ammunition ordered. In fact, this type of ammunition is standard issue for many law enforcement agencies. OIGs special agents use this ammunition during their mandatory quarterly firearms qualifications and other training sessions, to ensure agent and public safety. Additionally, the ammunition our agents use is the same type used at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center.
Our special agents need to be armed and trained appropriately. They not only investigate allegations of Social Security fraud, but they also are called to respond to threats against Social Security offices, employees, and customers.
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http://oig.ssa.gov/newsroom/blog/2012/08/social-securitys-oig-responds-concerns-over-ammunition-procurement
Here is a link to the Snopes.com article which covers some other right wing hair on fire paranoid tales: http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/ssabullets.asp Again, lots of links to their original sources so you can check the information provided.
What is scary is the number of morons who refuse to actually check the facts and instead believe whatever conspiracy theory is thrown at the wall.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)So how in the world is that "PBO" "limiting ammo?"
Does your friend have the slightest understanding of how bills become laws?
All this is supposing such a policy even exists, which is certainly not clear from your responses here.
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intaglio
(8,170 posts)Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)You could also call him insane.
Hell Hath No Fury
(16,327 posts)mockmonkey
(2,824 posts)"No manufacturer of either guns or ammunition has been ordered by the government to limit or alter its supply channels. All manufacturers are trying their best to catch up to this market, but it's a simple matter of supply vs. demand. There is way too much demand for manufacturers to meet with supply. There is not enough tooling, infrastructure or raw materials at the ready anywhere in the entire world to keep up with current consumer demand. And that's why we are seeing shortages."
http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/articles/2013/5/rumor-control-ammo-shortages-revisited!.aspx
leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)anyway
dairydog91
(951 posts)If it's a law, it'll be in there. Ask him to show you the new law.
LiberalLoner
(9,762 posts)Wanted to publicly prove him wrong and you guys helped me.
Thank you guys so much!!!!