As A Viet Vet Being Called A Loser At The Anti Recall Protest Shows How Sick Recaller Supporters Are

[TheMastersNemesis]

My hat very clearly reveals that I am a Vietnam era vet when I am out with these anti recall protests. Three more hours on the "recall" protest I was given the single finger salute more times than I have been given the same salute in my lifetime really. After 8 hours yesterday I now realize how sick this country is now. We may be unredeemable as a country.

To add insult to injury I had two draft age young guys drive by and yelled to me to " go fuck myself" even after I pointed to my service. I will bet none of these men ever faced danger in a war zone.

I was spared a lot in the war but not spared everything. In April 1968 Operation Pegasus in relief of Khe Sahn cost B 1/5 it Battalion commander and all his staff except his XO captured and tortured. My company commander and future general was wounded with # KIA in my company. Captain Nawrosky later died in the US at Walter Reed. Shortly after being shelled by the NVA on our LZ being the company clerk I was ordered by my 1st Sergeant to go to ID KIA in our company.

It is a life changing experience to walk into a tent with 30 dead soldiers many unrecognizable. You tell me how to tell if a soldier your man when they now have NO face. I could only ID one of our men. We paid a heavy price in the 1st Cavalry the previous night freeing Khe Sahn from the shelling. As I said I was a company clerk at the time. During that year I wrote 27 sympathy letters to families for soldiers killed in the line of duty. At one time I remembered every single name of the soldiers we lost.

58,000 soldiers were killed in Vietnam. Now we have these scum sucking bastards trying to steal an election they did not win in the general. They are the traitors of freedom.

Some of the same signers of the immoral recall are the same people who are telling me to go fuck myself, that I am a loser, and issue the single finger salute because I am protesting their desire to carry any lethal weapon anywhere they want.

Now many of you at DU get on my ass because I get vicious with GOPPERS and tea baggers about whether I would ever help them or not. Actually I would.







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[safeinOhio]

1. +1

For your bravery then and now.

[TheMastersNemesis]

5. Believe Me I Wasn't Looking For A Fight I Was Just Trying To Stay Alive For A Year More.

As I have said in the past probably I was lucky to become a mail clerk and company clerk after about 3 weeks of combat operations. I had enough of a taste of it to know what the men of my company were going through and I always looked out for what they needed from me. We still faced dangers because we were never far from our companies. "Have Typewriter & M-16 Will Travel". The company clerks were on the fire zones and we had to be ready to fight if attacked by ground forces.

We had certain amenities but we still lived in the dirt so to speak. And we wore the same clothes for months on end unless we got near a base. You were always subject to getting shelled or having a perimeter attack at night. We had perimeter companies but were on call for perimeter defense if needed. We were armed but never locked and loaded on base unless we were on the perimeter.

We had one period where I was up for a week at night and still had to work all day because of imminent attack. A shelling was started one night but four 8 inch guns one night silenced them quickly. You were safe but not totally safe. LZ Jane was a two brigade fire base with support. Between Hue and Dong Ha 30 miles north on DMZ.

[marble falls]

2. Thankyou for your service. Then and now.

[GP6971]

3. A salute to a member of

The First Team during difficult times.

I was armored cav during the first years of my Army time.

[TheMastersNemesis]

7. We Were Airmobile But Not Armored But Should Have Been. Never Flew Much But -

Hueys got a lot of holes in them. The worst part for the choppers was the gas tank was below the passenger compartment as you may well know. A ride on a Huey was known as the "magic carpet ride". In my old age I now appreciate having been a 1st Calver

[GP6971]

12. My neighbor's son

Was a door gunner on a Huey at the Ir Drang. Rarely comments on it. Don't blame him.....never experienced combat, but have seen the results. Used to volunteer at the local VA hospital in the mid to late 70s.....nasty stuff.

[TheMastersNemesis]

18. The Battle For Ia Drang Valley Had The Highest Casualty Rate Of The War. Over 200 KIA.

Choppers came in under heavy fire. Many were shot down. It was a real blood bath on both sides. I think maybe 1000 VC were killed. That was before I went over.

[GP6971]

24. I went there last year on business

couldn't believe that I would be there. Very friendly people .........met many younger people with no experience of the war. The older people......not so much. They felt the US abandoned them. Don't blame them

[redstatebluegirl]

4. Thank you for your continued service to our country.

I hate that you have had that happen to you. It is not right, it is not the way this country used to be. Although during Vietnam it was pretty dicey here in the US.

I always said you could disagree with the politicians who sent our brave soldiers into harms way, but you MUST support those who serve and die for us!

Thank you again for your service!

[TheMastersNemesis]

9. My Experience Today Showed Me That Too Many Americans Don't Give A Shit Really

I could have been a four star general out there today against this immoral recall and about every one of them would have told me to go fuck myself. It is that bad really. Complete disrespect for me and any veteran who apposes their madness. They deserve only my wrath and ill will. I do not like to go out and spend 8 hours demonstrating for what is actually right to only suffer abuse of people who would actually refuse to serve in the military as far as I know.

Sadly so many of my fellow vets are GOP. Every vet should be out there protesting these ghouls who are just plain wrong on this issue. Innocent people and children died in two avoidable massacres here in Colorado and I watched the news on both.

[riderinthestorm]

10. Oh those shitheads only care about vets that are ideologically aligned with them

The rest not so much.

It makes me crazy the way these brainwashed zealots have so much sway anywhere.

Thanks for getting out there and helping with the anti recall efforts. It matters.

And thanks for your service.

[TheMastersNemesis]

11. We Are Doing All We Can To Stop Them From Getting The Sigs They Need.

This battle is a battle for the country at the state level. As I have said before the NRA is using this as a model because they are telling politicians that if you even say the word "gun" you will be recalled where a law allows a recall no matter where you are in the US.

Based on what we are hearing in the future they will try to do a recall on any close election they believe they can nullify in the general in that state or local level. It is their NEW strategy to keep opponents out of office.

We may be facing 2 or 3 more recalls after this one even if we stop the sigs. A loophole in Colorado allows them to recall for any reason at any time. The take is that the GOP here is working on a never ending election cycle because they have the money.

[GP6971]

14. Not only state level, but

the local level as well. My community, like many others, has local elections coming up. I'll be damned if I can find anything about their political "leanings"

[Robb]

6. Real war is not tacticool.

Thanks for being out there doin' your thing.

[TheMastersNemesis]

8. Fortunately I Was Not Scarred Or Hurt By The War. No Movie Could Do Justice To The Actual Experience

[aznativ]

13. So are people flipping you off because you are a Vietnam Vet or

do you think they shouldn't flip you off just because you are?

I wouldnt take any of it personal. I seriously doubt it is because you are a vet. Most vets I know are GOP / gun people so they are prob flipping off the politics.

[TheMastersNemesis]

15. I Am Sure That Is True. It Is The Politics. GOP Viet Vets Are Stupid. The GOP Is Cutting Their

benefits. The Dems have been forced to go along because of all the money against them. The voters are forcing the Dems right because if you run on a populist agenda you lose. The country at large is seriously demented if they think the Dems and Obama caused all our problem.

[GP6971]

16. My question is are they

flipping off all vets or just us older vets??????

I often took my son, a army type, to the airport. I can't tell you how many times people thanked him for his service. Has that changed?

[pasto76]

22. all of us

I get the same shit from these fucking cowards all the time. They think because I am an Iraq vet that I am a conservative. They get uncomfortable then indignant, then start mouthing off. They love when they find out i was 'just a reservist'. then I show them pictures of what us '2nd stringers' did due to the massive shortage of troops in 2003-2004. 16 months over there. Im like ' You know, before 'the surge'"

then I go into how the army is my second job. And that Im a foreman and they arent. how everything in my life, about my life actually points out my superiority to them, and most of it was from being a 'lowly reservist' and my war time experience. Then I tell them to get X done before the end of the day or Im going to turn them into cash.

I fucking hate them. So stupid, so cowardly. So full of shit.

Army Strong brothers. Your tradition and service continues.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

17. I keep saying it wasn't hippies and Liberals who disrespected troops comming home from Vietnam....

It was right wing assholes who considered them to be a bunch of losers, stoners and freaks.

ESPECIALLY the WWII vets who fought in Europe.

[FairWinds]

19. Say What?

I'm a Vietnam vet, try to stay up with the news, and went to school for quite a while.
But I am puzzled - what is a "Recall Protest', and an "Anti-recall protest"?
How about some background information ?

[ucrdem]

23. CO state senator Evie Hudak, targeted for recall by gun owners

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/10/colorado_recall_effort_targets_another_anti-gun_state_senator.html

If so OP is a brave man.

[Silver Gaia]

20. Thank you for your service,

as noted above, both then and now.

...from the wife of a disabled Vietnam vet

[UTUSN]

21. R#26 & K n/t