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mmonk

(52,589 posts)
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 11:31 AM Oct 2013

Does anyone know how income verification will work in the ACA?

For instance, if someone reports no income on their tax return one year due to expenses but has monthly income such as the self-employed, what will they go with for income?

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Does anyone know how income verification will work in the ACA? (Original Post) mmonk Oct 2013 OP
It gets sorted out Turbineguy Oct 2013 #1
I'm also wondering PasadenaTrudy Oct 2013 #2
One can receive money as a gift without claiming it as income if it is under $12,500 per yr.----- northoftheborder Oct 2013 #3
My friend PasadenaTrudy Oct 2013 #5
Within families the IRS rule has always seemed odd to me. Ms. Toad Oct 2013 #8
Not correct. Ms. Toad Oct 2013 #6
Thanks for the additional info I wasn't aware of. northoftheborder Oct 2013 #10
That's a really confusing tax concept - Ms. Toad Oct 2013 #11
Most of us file taxes just us Oct 2013 #4
I know. I do too. mmonk Oct 2013 #9
Typically Earnings are fredamae Oct 2013 #7

PasadenaTrudy

(3,998 posts)
2. I'm also wondering
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 11:34 AM
Oct 2013

about people who don't file taxes. I have a friend who takes care of his mother and his brother gives him money to do this. He hasn't filed in years

northoftheborder

(7,574 posts)
3. One can receive money as a gift without claiming it as income if it is under $12,500 per yr.-----
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 11:38 AM
Oct 2013

The amount may have gone up in the last couple of years, not sure if this fact is up to date.

PasadenaTrudy

(3,998 posts)
5. My friend
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 11:44 AM
Oct 2013

gets around $3K a month from his brother. He is caring for mom with dementia at home full time...he is 51, mom is around 90.

Ms. Toad

(34,092 posts)
8. Within families the IRS rule has always seemed odd to me.
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 11:52 AM
Oct 2013

There isn't any express way to deal with gift tax consequences within families (broadly defined) like - for example - parents who pay tuition for their adult child. Or unrelated adults who live together and one claims the other as a dependent. Both of those (and your friend's situation) from a literal reading of the law should trigger gift tax reporting, but I don't know of any situation in which it is actually done (or there were consequences for not doing so).

Of course, with your friend, there could easily be a caregiver arrangement set up if income would be helpful for the ACA.

Ms. Toad

(34,092 posts)
6. Not correct.
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 11:47 AM
Oct 2013

Gift income is ALWAYS tax free to the recipient. There is no cap.

The DONOR must pay the gift tax, but can give $14,000 per year (for 2014) to as many individuals as s/he wants without having to account for it as part of his/her gift/lifetime transfer of wealth (which is subject to being taxed at death)..

That said, I don't know how the ACA deals with gifts. The rules are not necessarily the same. Medicaid (at least pre-expansion), and some other forms of government assistance, requires gifts to be reported (even though there are no taxes owed on it).

Ms. Toad

(34,092 posts)
11. That's a really confusing tax concept -
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 12:29 PM
Oct 2013

In nearly every other area of money transfer, the person receiving money pays the taxes (if any are owed).

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
9. I know. I do too.
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 11:58 AM
Oct 2013

But sometimes my taxable income is low compared to my monthly income totals on my return and I don't have W2's. I also live in a confederate state where there is no Medicaid expansion, so income below a certain level won't get subsidies. So that is why I'm interested in knowing.

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
7. Typically Earnings are
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 11:48 AM
Oct 2013

reported to Soc Sec/IRS each quarter, I understand. So possibly they're looking at your earnings for the last 6 mos of 2012 and the first 6 months of 2013.....
This is just a guess--this is "generally" how most states use earnings to determine your UI benefits....

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