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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA Tip of the Hat to Ed Schultz . .
For yesterday challenging Obama's support for the rotten "Trans Pacific Partnership".
It's amazing that democrats promote trade deals that entirely omit protections for workers and the environment. Clinton did the same thing with NAFTA - which, by the way, Obama promised to re-negotiate.
As Ed points out, these deals also undermine sovereignty - but not just for the U.S. - for all the signatories.
Fast track ? Secretive process ? Excluding labor & independent analysts ? It's all rotten to the core.


newthinking
(3,982 posts)TPP is probably the most important issue of our time.
It will be as impactful and destructive to Democracy as Citizen's United. We really need to increase visibility on this.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)It would seem so.
Octafish
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"FukushimaTPP" means "to be given the atomic of screwings."
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)gopiscrap
(24,433 posts)gopiscrap
(24,433 posts)antigop
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1016&pid=67554grasswire
(50,130 posts)The giving of authority that would cede sovereignty is an issue made for RWNJ. But there's total silence on it.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Because it serves their purpose. They just don't want to be identified with it.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)If this is passed, it will be the last nail in the coffin for America's Working Class.
It is clear that Candidate Obama was aware that NAFTA (and Free Trade Deals) "devastated" the American Working Class. He freely admits this during Campaign 2008,
and was one of the very few policy issues that differentiated him from Hillary.
Did the "immediate phone calls" to Mexico and Canada "amending" NAFTA ever get made?
Are representatives of the American Working Class, Organized LABOR, Environmental Protections, and Human Rights included in the secret TPP & TTIP talks,
or have then been purposely excluded?
Does anyone here seriously expect the Global Corporate lobbyists & lawyers writing these new treaties ("NAFTA on Steroids"

The secrecy and demands for Fast Track surrounding these negotiations is unacceptable,
especially for the "Transparency" President.
tblue
(16,350 posts)Why do we have to beg you to reject something this noxious?
Mr. POTUS, PLEASE DON'T DO THIS!!!
Thank you, Ed.
fadedrose
(10,044 posts)Time to email the President!
https://www.citizen.org/tpp
offshore millions of American jobs,
free the banksters from oversight,
ban Buy America policies needed to create green jobs and rebuild our economy,
decrease access to medicine,
flood the U.S. with unsafe food and products,
and empower corporations to attack our environmental and health safeguards
FairWinds
(1,717 posts)Is it acceptable for DU posters to be critical of the President?
Or are we to be dismissed as "Obama Haters" or victims of "Obama Derangement Syndrome"?
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)Not
Another
Free
Trade
Agreement
mountain grammy
(28,045 posts)set worldwide standards for disabled access because, you know, freedom, are silent over this multinational corporate takeover of the world? Just wondering why, if Obama is for it, we haven't heard the rage against it.
Very bad deal. I have been contacting my representatives and the president regularly with my opposition.
haikugal
(6,476 posts)This has to be defeated...we're all being sold on the open market.
madrchsod
(58,162 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)But he's "unelectable",.....right?
polichick
(37,626 posts)Anyone who would put people or the planet over corporate profits is unelectable.
You can hear it repeated over and over again on DU every day.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)it.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)SaveOurDemocracy
(4,537 posts)Quantess
(27,630 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Seriously. He stepped clear outside the cardboard cubical.
Mosaic
(1,451 posts)That msnbc, as much as I enjoy it, I admit reluctantly, sometimes, is as corporate to its core as Faux noise.
polichick
(37,626 posts)Ed doesn't get the chess game, that's all.
Overseas
(12,121 posts)Too much of the agreement is still secret because those promoting it know citizens would be outraged by how much power is given to multinational corporations.
http://www.citizen.org/TPP
Have you heard? The Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) free trade agreement is a stealthy policy being pressed by corporate America, a dream of the 1 percent, that in one blow could:
offshore millions of American jobs, free the banksters from oversight, ban Buy America policies needed to create green jobs and rebuild our economy, decrease access to medicine, flood the U.S. with unsafe food and products, and empower corporations to attack our environmental and health safeguards.
Closed-door talks are on-going between the U.S. and Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Japan, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, Malaysia and Vietnam; with other countries, including China, potentially joining later. 600 corporate advisors have access to the text, while the public, Members of Congress, journalists, and civil society are excluded. And so far what we know about what's in there is very scary!
senseandsensibility
(23,034 posts)Some of them seem more concerned about who said something mean to the Prez.
Mosaic
(1,451 posts)We elect those who betray us. Simple truth. As always I look, we, the noble, look, for solutions.