I might as well get my two cents in on DKF

[DemocratSinceBirth]

I know vanity posts aren't looked upon particularly favorably but after ten years of posting and accumulating nearly 50,000 posts please indulge me.

There was something about him or her that just wasn't right. It seemed DKF almost invariably fell on the conservative side of every argument except when he or she was taking positions to the left of the president such as on the NSA controversy. it was if DKF and the president could never be simpatico.

But DKF's latest attack on the Affordable Care Act was beyond disingenuous.


I can't believe he or she argued that President Obama sabotaged his own website so people couldn't use it and find out how bad the Act is. That makes no sense at all... If it is bad they will find out eventually and conclude the Act and the website suck...

Now, with the midterms and 2016 election on the horizon we should be vigilant for the bad poll troll(s)...

[Rex]

1. Hey don't feel bad, when LocZ got shitcanned people came out of the woodworks

to write essays on why he was the most brilliant everest poster to bless DU and should be let back in on triple probation. That was after he took the Host forum hostage and demanded 3 cases of rum and a fast ship!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

4. Was he the guy that hated Nader?

Nader's not my favorite politician but that guy was obsessed.

Didn't he make some kind of street video about him where he kept repeating his name.

[Rex]

6. Yes!

Don't know about the video, but he would have a regular "Fuck Ralph Nadar" thread every day or so.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

9. I missed his banning

What was his "jump the shark" moment?

[Rex]

10. He became a host and I don't know all the small details

went ape shit and held the host forum hostage (I have no idea how) and demanded to be made King of Meta or something. I too missed all the actual flameout, but was here for the fallout and it was hilarious. The row upon row of swords and loud noise of people falling on them over his dismissal was as epic as his banning imo.

[kestrel91316]

11. How on earth did I miss all THAT fun???

[Rex]

12. It went down really fast so didn't last long.

But the fallout was illuminating. You would have thought Skinner banned the Beatles! I could hear people crying through their monitors.

[Blue_In_AK]

21. I was really happy to see that one go.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

30. I thought he was crazy but he didn't seem like a right winger./nt

[monmouth3]

16. Me tooooooo (said in a whining voice)...I miss all the fun dammit..n/t

[uppityperson]

29. Huh, that sounds like a good idea. I'd like to demand that from the hosts forum people too.

[Pretzel_Warrior]

2. agreed

[Cleita]

3. I never liked the fact that this poster was allowed to get away with so

much disingenuous AstroTurf, because that is what it was, about entitlement programs. In the early days of DU he/she would have been buried under factual information by many informed and intelligent DUers who have since moved on.

[Pretzel_Warrior]

7. not saying today's DU compares with then

but this crowd has done a pretty good job of putting dkf in their place with factual information.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. The Zimmy stuff bothered me the most

People of good will can't argue about whether a dead unarmed kid had his shooting coming...

If his supporters are reading this, well, that's how I feel...

[Cleita]

13. That was pretty awful too. n/t

[Violet_Crumble]

14. There are many informed and intelligent DUers here now...

I'm not sure there's a hell of a lot of a difference in how dkf was responded to back then and at DU3...

[Cleita]

15. There aren't enough to bury lies here like there used to be.

I tried to correct dfk many times but new posts would appear every day with the same misinformation. That is when I came to the conclusion that dfk didn't want to learn but to spread right wing talking points. The fact that this person accumulated so many posts just shows there aren't enough informed posters here anymore to either correct them or out them as the disrupters that they are. The proof is in the numbers.

[Violet_Crumble]

19. It's pretty much the same as it's always been...

If as many people as before weren't replying, it probably meant a fair few had put dkf on ignore or did what I did, which was not bother replying to anything they had to say. That in no way makes people uninformed, it makes them smart, imo.

DU really hasn't had the dumbing down that yr implying it has...

[juajen]

22. And, some of us bridge the gap!

I still love coming here, and always support Skinner and Company. After all, they birthed our beloved forum. Marching forward!

[JI7]

17. one thing i noticed with that poster is they would leave for a certain amount of time

between the various issues which always took the conservative position on. they also seemed to stick on a few specific issues at a time rather than troll the entire forum on every issue. so this gave people the perception that it was just about that issue .

they were good in avoiding personal insults though and that's one of the reasons i'm guessing it was hard to ban.

also a lot of the stuff was like "why didn't he just release the birth certificate earlier" and claim it was about just getting past the issue. as if the right wing birth certificate crap was a serious position with serious concern that if we just did this they would move on.

a lot of things would be said in a questioning way rather than them saying that was their position . for example "did this really ..........." "why didn't x just.........................." type of stuff.

but they seemed to lose it over this obamacare this just like the rest of the right wing . i think things like the republican poll numbers , re-election of obama etc added to it all.

[Warpy]

5. Yes, s/he got a "recovering Republican" pass for a very long time

but that last post was right out of Freak Republic and the PPR duly arrived.

We do have recovering Republicans here and it's necessary to deconstruct some of the funny ideas and cockeyed equations they still have. A few have exposed themselves as trolls. The rest are coming around, little by little.

[trumad]

20. That last OP was something ...

I read it and then headed to Ask the Admin and asked the Admin when they were going to wake up. I hit the post my reply button and went back to the thread where I found out he or she was banned. It was that fast.

It had nothing to do with me hitting up the Admin---they decided before I even asked.

[Lifelong Protester]

18. I am pretty sure I didn't see it because

I am pretty sure I have had that person on ignore for a while.

[flamingdem]

23. ACA has been fatal to many baggers

and Republicans.

DFK is no exception

[Gman]

24. DKF took trolling to a fine art

It takes hard work and above all discipline to be a great troll. DKF was/is good at it. I suspect he/she will register another account, lay low for a while then "someone new" with a couple thousand posts will start to catch everyone's attention next year. DKF is that disciplined.

[el_bryanto]

25. I always get concerned when people go on the hunt for trolls myself

I feel like it has a chilling effect on discourse.

Bryant

[DemocratSinceBirth]

32. "The price of liberty is eternal vigilance."

-Thomas Jefferson

[el_bryanto]

33. Nods - and I hear the Innocent have nothing to Hide.

What's fascinating to me is how both the more leftist and the more centrist sides on this board are convinced that the other wing is all powerful and persecuting them.

Bryant

[liberalmuse]

26. I never really paid much attention to this person's posts.

I did a search and found I was on the other side of the argument that this person was. They were sort of rooting for the wealthy landowners. I have to say that this person should probably receive an award for the best troll ever. They managed to log a lot more posts than many hard core liberal old timers. That takes a bit of restraint since the average troll lasts less than half a day here.

[appleannie1]

27. I had a run in with him/her on the last thread on Obamacare. The impression I got was someone

from Freeperville looking for a fight and just trying to get a rise out of people.

[Kingofalldems]

28. Someone here said and I agree there is a good chance

dkf was a paid poster. Very professional.

[stevenleser]

35. I tend to be very critical of those accusations, but in dkf's case, two things make me suspicious

#1 - The skill, patience and relentlessness evidenced by their tactics and the time invested.

#2 - The way he/she knew exactly when to fall back to "I just want to strengthen Social Security and Medicare" and "I really want Canadian style single payer" just when things were closing in on them in order to make people just unsure enough about them to avoid banning.

[tritsofme]

31. Being here over the same ten years, this poster never really made a big impression on me.

I'm pretty sure I did see the ACA thread this week, but unfortunately the outright opposition to the president on this site stopped shocking me a long time ago.

[SoCalDem]

34. Same here.. I pick and choose the threads and do not "keep score"

maybe it's my age & memory-capacity, but I do not even notice who started what or how many times or what their pet issues are. IF I agree & care enough to post, I offer an opinion..if not, I choose another thread..

I automatically assume that there will always be disruptors, and I choose to not feed the trolls (usually)

[DemocratSinceBirth]

36. He was super partisan when it came to Zimmerman

It was like he was channeling his inner Mark O'Mara and Don West.