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alp227

(32,047 posts)
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 12:59 PM Oct 2013

CBS News Features Distraught Woman Paying 10 Times More for Insurance Due to Obamacare

A visibly distraught woman who recently lost her health insurance plan because of the new requirements within the Affordable Care Act recently expressed her frustrations to CBS News. In a report about the number of people losing their health plans, in spite of assurances by the president, one Florida woman choked up slightly while revealing that she will have to pay more than $500 monthly for the coverage she previously paid just $50 for.

CBS News’ Jan Crawford reported on Monday that the ACA’s broken federal website is unlikely to be fully functional until after weeks of repair work. In the interim, she reported, millions of Americans are losing their health insurance plans and are being told that they will have to pay far more for their current level of coverage.

“For many, their introduction to the Affordable Care Act has been negative,” Crawford reported.

She also noted that the fact that so many are losing their health care plans is “directly at odds with repeated assurances by the president.”

full: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cbs-news-features-distraught-woman-paying-10-times-more-for-insurance-due-to-obamacare/

And CBS is "liberal"? Looks like the media has gone totally Fox!

One comment on Mediaite responds:


Well, if the Florida legislature had taken the Medicaid expansion, she wouldn't have fallen into the gray area where she makes too much to qualify for the subsidy. The Republicans on both the state and national levels have to accept some of the blame for the Obamacare mess, too.
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CBS News Features Distraught Woman Paying 10 Times More for Insurance Due to Obamacare (Original Post) alp227 Oct 2013 OP
She was paying $50/month?! Xipe Totec Oct 2013 #1
I'm sure it was shitty non insurance covering nothing Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #2
That's my question as well... Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #7
full coverage for the left side of her body every other day of the week CreekDog Oct 2013 #15
Consumer Reports called it "junk insurance" IronLionZion Oct 2013 #30
And junk reporting to go with it - CBS isn't helping. nt Xipe Totec Oct 2013 #31
CBS, via Jan Crawford has had 3-4 stories like this. Raine1967 Oct 2013 #33
I wanna see her policy. bravenak Oct 2013 #3
There are a bunch of them, employer sponsored Yo_Mama Oct 2013 #19
If she worked a low paying job (likely) she may even qualify for medicaid SoCalDem Oct 2013 #38
There isn't a trace of a liberal media in this country. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #4
CBS News. Brought to you by United Healthcare Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #5
There is no liberal media in this country. Rex Oct 2013 #6
I looked up what this woman would pay on the healthcare.gov website Tony_FLADEM Oct 2013 #8
$50/month insurance? gollygee Oct 2013 #9
People who carried no insurance will now be paying infinitely more due to Obamacare. Xipe Totec Oct 2013 #10
Jan Crawford gets more evil by the day. factsarenotfair Oct 2013 #11
I'm sure she'll be able to milk all this for $$$ at the Federalist Society deutsey Oct 2013 #23
Geez. What a "journalist." factsarenotfair Oct 2013 #25
Has CBS ever featured a distraught woman who is very sick and could not get health insurance??? factsarenotfair Oct 2013 #12
Maybe $50 was her contributiojn to an employers plan... Bonhomme Richard Oct 2013 #13
I think you're probably right. Sheldon Cooper Oct 2013 #16
Yes, that's what it is Yo_Mama Oct 2013 #17
That is possible, but the story did not go there nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #22
The story was slanted the way they wanted it. n/t Bonhomme Richard Oct 2013 #28
The last time I saw $50-a-month coverage was in college Azathoth Oct 2013 #14
Meanwhile, I'll be paying 1/10 of what the premiums were for my crappy catastrophic policy kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #18
Ok, cool story. Not even those on things like Tricare Prime nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #20
A lot of people pay that little. NCTraveler Oct 2013 #21
I'm on TriCare Prime and pay 22 dollars sammytko Oct 2013 #32
Stand corrected nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #36
So much for the "post all ur info or u lied" crowd LittleBlue Oct 2013 #24
Her policy was a catastrophic insurance plan that covered exactly nothing. Ikonoklast Oct 2013 #35
You do not know any of this. $50 could have been her portion of an employer plan. nt Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #41
Except it wasn't. Ikonoklast Oct 2013 #42
Remember when Michael Moore went on CBS NYC Liberal Oct 2013 #26
Koch dealers probably tossed her a free 8-ball Blue Owl Oct 2013 #27
"Great reporting Jan" is the biggest lie of that video. IronLionZion Oct 2013 #29
See my post 33 about the reporter: Raine1967 Oct 2013 #34
This insurance company ploy should have been OUTLAWED. WinkyDink Oct 2013 #37
or they should have been required to confess that their coverage was so BAD SoCalDem Oct 2013 #40
Yes, at least that, to take off the mask. WinkyDink Oct 2013 #44
NONE of this, true, false, or otherwise, should even BE! Health-care $$ ought come from our TAXES. WinkyDink Oct 2013 #39
wish CBS news would tell us what she got for $50 month mountain grammy Oct 2013 #43

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
1. She was paying $50/month?!
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 01:10 PM
Oct 2013

What kind of coverage was she getting for that money, I wonder.

$50/month would barely cover the copay on my medications.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
15. full coverage for the left side of her body every other day of the week
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 01:41 PM
Oct 2013

except on days of the month which are not prime numbers.

IronLionZion

(45,494 posts)
30. Consumer Reports called it "junk insurance"
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:14 AM
Oct 2013
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cbs-news-misleading-obamacare-report-womans-plan-paid-50-per-service-doesnt-cover-hospitalization/

The new plans cost about the same with subsidies, but are infinitely superior in coverage.

More open-minded and curious people are doing much better than those who don't know any better. Unfortunately for them, the GOP doesn't want them to even bother looking. Its up to us to get them to look.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
33. CBS, via Jan Crawford has had 3-4 stories like this.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 09:13 AM
Oct 2013

She's concerned you see...

Check this out: http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/10/25/2835911/jan-crawford/

and here another story: http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/10/23/2823581/cbs-news-misleading-obamacare/

She also may have been behind the SCOTUS ACA leaks from last year: http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/07/01/509359/supreme-court-springs-a-leak-leaks-to-conservative-pundits-may-have-started-more-than-a-month-ago/

She's also very good friends with this fellow:



http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/07/03/510247/thomas-crawford-leaks/


Yesterday, the New York Times‘ Adam Liptak strongly implied that the leak could be Justice Clarence Thomas:

(T)he possibility that conservatives had victory within reach only to lose it seemed to infuriate some of them. The CBS News report, attributed to two sources with “specific knowledge of the deliberations,” appeared to give voice to the frustrations of people associated with the court’s conservative wing. It was written by Jan Crawford, whose 2007 book, “Supreme Conflict: The Inside Story of the Struggle for Control of the United States Supreme Court,” was warmly received by conservatives.

In a 2009 interview on C-Span, Justice Thomas singled her out as a favorite reporter. “There are wonderful people out here who do a good job — do a fantastic job — like Jan Greenburg,” Justice Thomas said, referring to Ms. Crawford by her married name at the time.



ETA: Crawford had her hands all over the Elena Kagan smear leading up to her Eventual SCOTUS nomination:
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2010/06/05/176825/crawford-kagan-smear/

Thousands of parties petition the Supreme Court to review their case, although the justices generally hear only about 60-80 cases a year. So as a law clerk to Justice Thurgood Marshall, Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan would have written literally hundreds of memos to her boss advising him on whether to grant or deny these petitions. Of these hundreds of memos, the right-wing Federalist Society chose to post exactly five of them on its website.

By what could only be an amazing coincidence, CBS News’ legal correspondent Jan Crawford selected four of the same five memos as the basis of a report Thursday night. According to Crawford:

Taken together, these documents will be much harder for her to explain away than other, less controversial papers unearthed before her confirmation hearings for Solicitor General. . . . The documents seem to show that Kagan had some pretty strong legal views of her own, and while that might encourage liberals, it’s going to give Republicans a lot more ammunition to fight against her.
I trust very little that comes from Jan Crawford.


 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
3. I wanna see her policy.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 01:12 PM
Oct 2013

I've never heard of $50 insurance.
I think somebody might be stretching the truth like taffy.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
19. There are a bunch of them, employer sponsored
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 02:42 PM
Oct 2013

It might have been a mini-Med.

But those are all cancelled now. The CBS coverage says she is eligible for some sort of subsidy, but she just can't find out what because she hasn't been able to use Healthcare.gov yet.

This might be a nothing story when she finds out what she can get on the exchange.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
38. If she worked a low paying job (likely) she may even qualify for medicaid
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 12:53 PM
Oct 2013

and if she lives in a state with a stupid governor, her gripe is with Him.her..not the ACA

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
4. There isn't a trace of a liberal media in this country.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 01:13 PM
Oct 2013

MSNBC pretends to be liberal but they always betray their true intentions. The other networks are no better than more palatable versions of Fox "News".

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
5. CBS News. Brought to you by United Healthcare
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 01:15 PM
Oct 2013

And Blue Cross-Blue Shield.

"Oh my God! Obamacare is the worst thing to hit the U.S. since Hitler!!!11"

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
6. There is no liberal media in this country.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 01:15 PM
Oct 2013

That is just one huge conspiracy theory created by the RWing to keep the media on a certain narrative.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
9. $50/month insurance?
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 01:19 PM
Oct 2013

I call bullshit on that and on any reporter who reported on that without asking to see some paperwork showing how much the insurance was and what it covered.

factsarenotfair

(910 posts)
12. Has CBS ever featured a distraught woman who is very sick and could not get health insurance???
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 01:27 PM
Oct 2013

Ever? Does anyone know?

Bonhomme Richard

(9,000 posts)
13. Maybe $50 was her contributiojn to an employers plan...
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 01:28 PM
Oct 2013

and the employer dropped providing insurance.
I don't know anything about the story but that is my guess. We, personally don't pay anything toward our insurance coverage other than co-pays.

Sheldon Cooper

(3,724 posts)
16. I think you're probably right.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 02:05 PM
Oct 2013

But you won't get too much traction here. Your guess doesn't fit the approved narrative.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
17. Yes, that's what it is
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 02:39 PM
Oct 2013

And the CBS video says that she is eligible for a subsidy, but she can't find out what that is because she can't use the website yet.

Azathoth

(4,611 posts)
14. The last time I saw $50-a-month coverage was in college
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 01:35 PM
Oct 2013

And that barely qualified as health insurance.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
18. Meanwhile, I'll be paying 1/10 of what the premiums were for my crappy catastrophic policy
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 02:41 PM
Oct 2013

that I had to drop due to the cost.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
24. So much for the "post all ur info or u lied" crowd
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 02:55 PM
Oct 2013

There are far too many respected media sources reporting this for it to be denied.

The costs for this are quite clearly landing on people who cannot afford to pay it. Which is why we should have gone with government-run healthcare like the UK or France. Healthcare is unaffordable under the for-profit system no matter how we shift the costs, and let's be honest, the costs should have shifted on to the rich before the middle-class and single college graduates.


But noooooo that was off the table from day 1.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
35. Her policy was a catastrophic insurance plan that covered exactly nothing.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 09:25 AM
Oct 2013

She is lying, she had no insurance to speak of, she is also going around to Fox with the same story and you take it as gospel.


NYC Liberal

(20,136 posts)
26. Remember when Michael Moore went on CBS
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 02:59 PM
Oct 2013

to promote F9/11 and told them their "news" was propaganda?

Still true today.

IronLionZion

(45,494 posts)
29. "Great reporting Jan" is the biggest lie of that video.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:11 AM
Oct 2013


This one investigates further and finds that she is infinitely better off with a new plan (not the one the greedy assholes at Kaiser recommended) but from the options available and the subsidies. Her old plan was junk and she would have come out ahead paying cash for routine visits instead of that crap. The new plan would cost about the same but cover so much more.

The sharks prey on those who don't know any better. People who know or are at least curious, are signing up. In the time it took for her to do the interview wit CBS, that lady could have gotten to a local office or Kaiser family foundation's website to see her eligibility for subsidies.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cbs-news-misleading-obamacare-report-womans-plan-paid-50-per-service-doesnt-cover-hospitalization/

Florida should have built their own state exchange but chose not to because their governor wants to lose re-election. F FloriDUH.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
40. or they should have been required to confess that their coverage was so BAD
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 12:55 PM
Oct 2013

it was worthless and now illegal..

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
39. NONE of this, true, false, or otherwise, should even BE! Health-care $$ ought come from our TAXES.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 12:54 PM
Oct 2013

Same as the Defense Dept $$$$$$$$$$$$$, which pretty much does nothing good for us.

mountain grammy

(26,642 posts)
43. wish CBS news would tell us what she got for $50 month
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 03:53 PM
Oct 2013

but that would be ,gasp, journalism. Story sounds completely fake.

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