Looks to me like the GOP get to keep blocking voters for 2014

[edhopper]

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In places like Texas and North Carolina their draconian voter ID laws (with a big assist from the SCOTUS) look like they are doing what they are intended for. Keeping millions of eligible voters from voting.
The Democrats have such a big hurdle to leap now, between gerrymandered districts and the blatant voter obstruction that I fear retaking the House, even with a majority wanting a Dem House, is highly improbable.
They have cheated their way into having the upper hand in most of the races.
Yes, we must try our best, but we must acknowledge that they have been allowed to stack the deck.
The unfairness of the next election is glaringly obvious, well to everyone but the MSM and elected Democratic politicians, who remain silent about it all.

[stevenleser]

1. We're about to win the Governor's mansion in Virginia which is a new swing state.

That is going to be a big deal for 2014 and 2016.

[edhopper]

2. I think there will be a few governor pick ups

VA, ME and FLA. But if the GOP was not allowed to employ their fascistic tactics, we would reclaim the House. It's Third World "democracy" in may of those states. The Dems need 52% to 55% in many races to have a chance of winning.
It's like the Senate where 60% is now a simple majority. The GOP minority can win any vote with less than 50%.

[Le Taz Hot]

3. Jesus, could we, like, cast a vote first before declaring defeat?

Texas and North Caroline are not the United States -- they're Texas and North Carolina. Yes, there will be an uphill battle but not every state has decided to go back to Jim Crow.

The gerrymandering can be laid on the lap of the Democratic Party who couldn't find a place for Dean and his 50-state strategy and, instead, went back to the 6-state strategy. Too often Republicans run unopposed and that is from the municipal level on up. Why? Because the geniuses at the top of the Democratic Party allocate funds and resources to only a few races leaving the other 99% of the races in the country without any support whatsoever from the Party. The Republicans don't do that. How often does a Democrat run unopposed? Virtually never. Even if the Republican doesn't have a chance in hell of winning they at least put someone up. Not so the Democrats.

In the meantime, California has at least two Congressional seats in play next year and maybe more after the shutdown. There are others.

So, could you not ring the death knell quite yet and allow us to actually work and campaign and vote?

Thank you,

LTH

[magical thyme]

6. thank you. stupid OP.

I hate when people give up before something has even started. Sheesh...

[edhopper]

9. Should we not be aware how big the problem is

should we blindly just ignore a major obstacle?

[magical thyme]

10. there's a vast difference between stating we have a problem that we need to be aware of and

stating they have already won (and, by implication, we have already lost) a year before the election.

[edhopper]

11. I changed my titled

to reflect what I was saying. I did not mean they will win in 2014, I mean they have won the battle over voting for 2014. And my fear is they will block enough voters to steal more elections.

[magical thyme]

18. thank you for the clarification...

it tells us what we need to do...GOTV!

[edhopper]

19. Yes

it just pisses me off that we need well over 50% to win, to make up for the Dem voters who will be prevented from voting.

[magical thyme]

20. don't get mad. get even.

[Bluenorthwest]

7. I agree with Le Taz Hot

nt

[Le Taz Hot]

12. This may be a first.

[Coyotl]

4. Current polling says you are wrong about taking the House.

Plus, your hyperbole is obvious, with "highly probable" and "most of the races." Plus, filing federal lawsuits and stopping these new laws isn't remaining silent.

You are pedaling falsehood.

[wiggs]

5. You would think there would be tons of lawsuits by injured parties, by

civil liberties groups, and by DOJ.

However, if I were a potential complainant, I might think it's better to wait a bit before bringing down a legal hammer. First, a bunch of people might be concerned enough to register, get IDs, get pissed off, or get active the more it seems new voter laws are a threat. Second, the closer we are to an election, the more likely a decision would take timing and election proximity into account. Perhaps.

But...I bet and I hope that lots of folks and groups are lining up strategies to stop an outrageously obvious effort to suppress the vote.

[edhopper]

8. First

the voter ID laws are in many States: Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Tennessee, Arkansas, Mississippi, North Carolina, Texas, Virginia, and Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Florida, Hawaii, Idaho, Louisiana, Michigan, New Hampshire, South Dakota, Alabama all have ID laws, many very strict.

And I think I am particularly pessimistic today, the unfairness of it all is just getting to me.

I agree with Star Member Le Taz Hot that the democrats complacency has been a contributing factor.

But I want to remind people how much the redistricting advantage in States like Texas lead to the 1994 take over of Congress. (hint: a lot more than the Contract with America did)

[gopiscrap]

13. that's fucked up

[edhopper]

14. The situation?

Or my whining about it?

We also might have to content with an unlimited money supply it the SCOTUS ends campaign contribution limits (which Scalia, Roberts, etc want to do)

[gopiscrap]

15. the situation of course!

[edhopper]

16. Thanks

it's just I get crap on this board for being negative at times, but sometimes it's warranted.

[gopiscrap]

17. I agree, I've goitten crap also

the latest was for an anti Christmas thread