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In the video embedded below, Creation Today hosts Eric Hovind and Paul F. Taylor asserted that Gods word is the basis of all knowledge, and that televangelist Pat Robertson is off-base in saying that perhaps the world is more than 6,000 years old.
The two hosts were discussing Robertsons response to an email he received from a 700 Club audience member who wanted to know why the Bible doesnt say anything about the dinosaurs.
Of course the Bible does cover dinosaurs, said Taylor, we have talked about that on this show several times.
What Robertson said in response to the viewer, however, was that, in spite of what Creationists and Irelands Archbishop James Ussher [1581-1656] say, the Earth is not 6,000 years old. Ussher was a Christian cleric who claimed to have pinpointed the moment of Creation to the day.
Hoving and Taylor laughingly dismissed the idea that Ussher could be wrong in any way, with Taylor asking rhetorically of Robertson, Do you assume then that Archbishop James Ussher had no actual evidence for his proposition when he wrote such a big book. People talk about this 6,000 years that Archbishop Ussher came up with.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/11/06/creationists-turn-against-pat-robertson-for-saying-earth-isnt-6000-years-old/
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)He was there dammit.
shenmue
(38,506 posts)Ken spawned?
Crimony.
boston bean
(36,223 posts)Would be the one who wasn't so fucking crazy?
boston bean
(36,223 posts)JBoy
(8,021 posts)"Look how thick the book is!"
Also, "He got it from the bible", ergo, QED.
kiranon
(1,727 posts)the earth was only 6,000 years old. Loved the picture of the Apple computer and the religious texts side by side. Now if they would just use the computer to learn something.
exboyfil
(17,865 posts)believes that the earth is 6,000 years old. It simply boggles the mind that an individual that intelligent can hold such a belief.
Cresent City Kid
(1,621 posts)A brilliant programmer, but he sounds silly trying to square science and his beliefs. He realized that a 6000 year old universe meant that light from celestial objects had to leave their sources less than 6000 years ago. He could have postulated that the universe was much smaller, but decided that since the speed of light is not always a constant, it could be sped up enough to explain the universe at its actual size.
We all remember from geometry that you can have sound logic with false assumptions: All dogs have 3 legs, Fido is a dog, Fido has 3 legs. Creationist start with the assumption that the Bible is strictly factual and bend the rest of the universe to fit.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)an object cannot "travel" through space faster than the speed of light - however, that does not preclude the expansion of space itself faster than that - so objects can "recede" from each other faster than the speed of light.
Cresent City Kid
(1,621 posts)but the light coming off of objects is hitting Earth after trips of billions of years for the farthest objects.The expanding space between us and the objects wouldn't speed up the light.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)but the size of the universe is not limited to the speed of light
Cresent City Kid
(1,621 posts)And the universe in which these events take place must also be much older.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)I was just responding to this - "since the speed of light is not always a constant, it could be sped up enough to explain the universe at its actual size."
Cresent City Kid
(1,621 posts)That assertion was my friend's mental gymnastics. A 6000 year old universe at its actual size would require light to be much faster than the speed measured by scientists. It does vary from this constant but only downward.
undeterred
(34,658 posts)and feel no cognitive dissonance at all.
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)...which (thru the grace of God)..cooks food by using the "Holy Heat Waves"
marmar
(77,091 posts)....... you must be totally f**king whackadoodle.
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Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)It absolutely IS a political issue.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Also, Darwin did not introduce the idea of gradual changes of species over millions of years; his theory instead explained the observed phenomenon of gradual changes of species over millions of years.
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)What kind of thinking is this? What kind of god or creator do these people worship?
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Two, they can't just believe in any "creator" (I don't, personally, but plenty of people do and are still able to reconcile that belief with scientific fact) ... they have boxed themselves into a very narrow literal interpretation of the Bible which means everything about 6 days and the garden of Eden and Cain and Abel and Noah's Ark has to be literally true.
Which, by their math, necessitates a 6,000 year old Earth.
I don't fucking understand it, but it frightens me that these people are anywhere near public school textbook committees.
ck4829
(35,091 posts)If your POV and my POV don't match up, then your point of view must be skewed or biased... If science and what I believe don't mesh, then science must be wrong... I have a laundry list of beliefs, and if you don't share them, then you must have been indoctrinated by the atheists/gays/liberals/secular humanists/etc.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)Didn't something he purports to believe in say, "As you reap so shall yee sow," or something like.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)It must be tough to live in a universe that so glaringly does not match the contents of one's own head. It explains a lot of the angst, anger, and bat-shit nuttiness of a lot of people.
If only the world would conform to their preconceived notions.