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BelgianMadCow

(5,379 posts)
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 05:22 PM Nov 2013

Hello porn-watching conspiracy theorists!

Greetings!

A small public service announcement:

In the not unlikely event you hold the belief that the US government hasn't been up front about 9/11, and watch porn online, consider that these things make you a radical extremist whose online habits could be used against you.

To wit, from HuffPo, as posted in LBN:


According to the document, the NSA believes that exploiting electronic surveillance to publicly reveal online sexual activities can make it harder for these “radicalizers” to maintain their credibility. "Focusing on access reveals potential vulnerabilities that could be even more effectively exploited when used in combination with vulnerabilities of character or credibility, or both, of the message in order to shape the perception of the messenger as well as that of his followers," the document argues.

One target's offending argument is that "Non-Muslims are a threat to Islam," and a vulnerability listed against him is "online promiscuity." Another target, a foreign citizen the NSA describes as a "respected academic," holds the offending view that "offensive jihad is justified," and his vulnerabilities are listed as "online promiscuity" and "publishes articles without checking facts." A third targeted radical is described as a "well-known media celebrity" based in the Middle East who argues that "the U.S perpetrated the 9/11 attack." Under vulnerabilities, he is said to lead "a glamorous lifestyle." A fourth target, who argues that "the U.S. brought the 9/11 attacks on itself" is said to be vulnerable to accusations of “deceitful use of funds." The document expresses the hope that revealing damaging information about the individuals could undermine their perceived "devotion to the jihadist cause."


I'd like to also point out that we know from a long time ago that "Like" buttons on a site track you, whether you're logged into FB or not. I have it on good authority that many porn pages on the net carry these like buttons. I wonder who presses those buttons? Nobody, I'd say. Yet they're there. Don't forget that FB is a participant in the PRISM scheme, so the NSA has direct access.

So, should those of us in the aformentioned case light our hair on fire? I don't think so. We Are Legion, so to speak, for one thing. The last thing I'd like to see happen, is for everybody to practise self-censorship or be afraid to stand up. But I do think this has far-reaching implications. You may want to consider using the many great open source programs & methods at Prism Break.

Note that the article is about muslim extremists, but one is a "USA person".
It identifies one of them, however, as a "U.S. person," which means he is either a U.S. citizen or a permanent resident. A U.S. person is entitled to greater legal protections against NSA surveillance than foreigners are.


To anyone who is willing to throw all foreigners (like myself) under the bus "because it won't be done to US citizens", I have a bridge to sell. See also: the US spying on UK citizens & passing the info back to the UK, because they couldn't dragnet spy on their own.

DISCLAIMER:
I did not post to provoke debate about the merits of either questioning official narratives (labeled CT) or watching porn.
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Hello porn-watching conspiracy theorists! (Original Post) BelgianMadCow Nov 2013 OP
Thank you for "Prism-Break" link. NYC_SKP Nov 2013 #1
Yes it's great, isn't it! I already used several of the programs and addons BelgianMadCow Nov 2013 #3
Remember the stories about all of Bin Laden's porn that they found? n/t Ian David Nov 2013 #2
I didn't, but "Exclusive: Pornography found in bin Laden hideout" BelgianMadCow Nov 2013 #5
Suckers billhicks76 Nov 2013 #6
k&r thanks for posting. nm rhett o rick Nov 2013 #4
I'm all for setting up a bot on my home computer to browse porn for me all day every day. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #7
... Scuba Nov 2013 #8
So....are they saying people should be ashamed of seeing porn? The Straight Story Nov 2013 #9
Nope, just saying knowing your habits makes you vulnerable BelgianMadCow Nov 2013 #10
Well if they want to see a hypocrite, find a christian that is a republican (nt) The Straight Story Nov 2013 #11
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BelgianMadCow

(5,379 posts)
3. Yes it's great, isn't it! I already used several of the programs and addons
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 05:47 PM
Nov 2013

on there, but many more I didn't know about. I also tried running a Tails (Linux) system from a live CD, worked great. There I was, surfing via Tor from South-Korea without traces on my PC. Well, unless they've built backdoors in Intel chips.

Just installing all the addons for Firefox gives you a totally amazing internet experience as well. I'm always when I surf on another PC.

BelgianMadCow

(5,379 posts)
5. I didn't, but "Exclusive: Pornography found in bin Laden hideout"
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 06:33 PM
Nov 2013

from Reuters:

(Reuters) - A stash of pornography was found in the hideout of Osama bin Laden by the U.S. commandos who killed him, current and former U.S. officials said on Friday.

The pornography recovered in bin Laden's compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, consists of modern, electronically recorded video and is fairly extensive, according to the officials, who discussed the discovery with Reuters on condition of anonymity.

The officials said they were not yet sure precisely where in the compound the pornography was discovered or who had been viewing it. Specifically, the officials said they did not know if bin Laden himself had acquired or viewed the materials.

Reports from Abbottabad have said that bin Laden's compound was cut off from the Internet or other hard-wired communications networks. It is unclear how compound residents would have acquired the pornography.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
6. Suckers
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 07:39 PM
Nov 2013

If you believe any of the official 911 narrative and the Bin Laden killing then I have a bridge in North Dakota I wanna sell you. How gullible can people be? Examine history. To those whose belief systems can't handle the truth and rationalize it all by exclaiming that people need to meaning in an uncertain world by funding explanations for the unexplainable : stop excusing just to make yourself feel better that all is calm and things are ok. Ignorance is not strength.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
7. I'm all for setting up a bot on my home computer to browse porn for me all day every day.
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 08:05 PM
Nov 2013

If they're going to watch, I want them to watch all day long. Maybe repeats of Nailin' Palin.

And I want them utterly horrified by the volume of it.

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
9. So....are they saying people should be ashamed of seeing porn?
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 08:20 PM
Nov 2013

Or that it is somehow bad?

OR......

Is it an excuse for them to be looking at porn with our money? Yeah, that is pretty much it. Gotta love the NSA, they like to read your emails, look at your porn, and listen to/track your calls (but I am betting they get a little upset if someone tries to do that to them....)

If I owned a newspaper the headline would be "NSA workers love porn" (which I think I will lead with on my next radio show).

BelgianMadCow

(5,379 posts)
10. Nope, just saying knowing your habits makes you vulnerable
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 08:25 PM
Nov 2013

to, for example, exposing you as a hypocrite, or a womanizer, or gay, or ... the article has this paragraph on those tactics:

Under J. Edgar Hoover, the FBI harassed activists and compiled secret files on political leaders, most notably Martin Luther King, Jr. The extent of the FBI's surveillance of political figures is still being revealed to this day, as the bureau releases the long dossiers it compiled on certain people in response to Freedom of Information Act requests following their deaths. The information collected by the FBI often centered on sex -- homosexuality was an ongoing obsession on Hoover's watch -- and information about extramarital affairs was reportedly used to blackmail politicians into fulfilling the bureau's needs.

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