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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 03:23 AM Dec 2013

Why I hate the "Where's their Mandela?" question about Palestinians, Tamils, etc.

So, time and time again I've heard about groups undertaking armed resistance, "they just need their Mandela to show them to resist non-violently. Where is he?"

I dislike that a lot, and on the occasion of the great man's passing, I'm probably going to hear it even more: whether about Palestinians, Tamils in Sri Lanka, Muslims in Burma, Mayans in Mexico, etc., etc. It's a complete and deliberate misreading of history and of Mandela's life.

Mandela was the founder of Umkhonto we Sizwe (abbreviated "MK" for reasons that escape me), an armed wing of the ANC, that killed dozens of people before his arrest and hundreds after it. Like how usually happens with occupation resistance movements, most of the targets of their violence were members of the oppressed race who seemed too collaborationist (c.f. the IRA, Hamas, LTTE, etc...), but government installations and "security" forces were targeted as well. Amnesty didn't list Mandela as a prisoner of conscience during his incarceration, because of the MK's violence. That surprised me when I learned it.

To me the power of Mandela's story is not as a clone of the Gandhi and MLK stories, but is a somewhat more modern post-colonial story of a resistance fighter who became part of the political process (Sinn Féin produces more examples, though none as dramatic). Castigating current resistance leaders for not being like Mandela is particularly irritating, because (to me) the whole point of the Mandela story is that the way to stop violent resistance is to not lock the resistance out of the political process. That's what eventually took the heat away from MK's fire: that the ANC was allowed into the political process in South Africa. The Sri Lankan government may think it has militarily defeated the LTTE, for instance, but barring a political inclusion I am willing to guarantee the LTTE 2.0 will be active by the end of the decade; the Irish and South African models are, in my opinion, the only workable way forward for Sri Lanka, the Occupied Territories, and a lot of other places.

The Truth and Reconciliation Commission was a brilliant effort which unfortunately has not been mirrored in places that could use it (the US and the civil rights era comes to mind -- it's not too late!). This doesn't get mentioned much in the west, but the majority of amnesty applicants were actually MK and ANC agents and leaders.

Calling Mandela's story a story of non-violence is like calling Malik El-Shabazz's story a story of racial inclusiveness: it's an important part, and if you're a teleologist I suppose it's the "end" in that sense, but it misses how they got there and what made them who they are. There's something, to me, much more powerful about a freedom fighter renouncing violence than a pacifist refusing violence (though both deserve praise).

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Why I hate the "Where's their Mandela?" question about Palestinians, Tamils, etc. (Original Post) Recursion Dec 2013 OP
It's the edgy equivalent of "Where's their George Washington?" I should think.... nt MADem Dec 2013 #1
If someone asked me that stupid question, just one answer tech3149 Dec 2013 #2
Excellent points Recursion JustAnotherGen Dec 2013 #3
Excellent post malaise Dec 2013 #4

tech3149

(4,452 posts)
2. If someone asked me that stupid question, just one answer
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 05:17 AM
Dec 2013

"Most likely, already dead or in some prison!"

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
3. Excellent points Recursion
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 06:35 AM
Dec 2013

There was a discussion about racism in Europe last week and I literally smacked my forehead when someone went to "they just need an MLK".

Times are different.
Political processes are different.
Circumstances are different.
And the back histories of countries and nations are different.

malaise

(269,055 posts)
4. Excellent post
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 06:39 AM
Dec 2013

They love the non-violent meme - it's easier to exploit us and steal our land, resources and everything they can loot.

Ask them about the Sharpeville massacre on 21 March 1960 - ask them about the murders of so many of our leaders?

Yesterday I wept - now I'm angry as I watch their shallow coverage. Why am I not surprised?

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