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http://gawker.com/helen-mirren-has-tea-with-dying-boy-after-actual-queen-509157446Oliver Burton's dying wish was to visit Buckingham Palace and have afternoon tea with the Queen.
Unfortunately, Her Royal Highness was unable to fit the 10-year-old into her busy schedule of waving at crowds from afar so understudy Dame Helen Mirren stepped in to take her place.
Oliver, who has Down's syndrome, has been battling various forms of cancer almost his entire life, and was recently diagnosed with terminal spine and bone marrow cancer.
But last week, for a brief wondrous afternoon, his troubles took a backseat to a meeting with the One True Queen...Mirren brought Oliver and his family to Gielgud Theatre to see her play the Queen in Peter Morgan's The Audience. Still dressed as the Queen, she then invited Oliver backstage to have tea and cakes (served by footmen!) and meet her corgis. Mirren even took the time to knight Oliver, giving him the official title of Sir.
"She stayed in character for the whole thing. Oliver thought she was the real Queen, and well, that's good enough for us," Oliver's father James Browne is quoted as saying.
"It was a pleasure and a privilege to meet such a brave young man," Mirren later told The Sun.
spanone
(135,844 posts)EOTE
(13,409 posts)spanone
(135,844 posts)Tansy_Gold
(17,862 posts)Knights are properly referred to by their first names, preceded by "Sir" or "Dame."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forms_of_address_in_the_United_Kingdom#Knights
NotHardly
(1,062 posts)indeed.
TheDebbieDee
(11,119 posts)the next time I have a cup, that is.
Baitball Blogger
(46,737 posts)Yavin4
(35,442 posts)bluestate10
(10,942 posts)The Queen likely gets many requests like this one and likely fill the majority of them. But, it only takes one well publicized instance to undue all the good that is quietly done.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)Just kidding
Though I don't agree with you.
AAO
(3,300 posts)tblue
(16,350 posts)or she had too many subjects asking for her time and this kid didn't make the cut. I get it; she's busy. What purpose does she serve really, other than meeting with people and photo ops?
MattBaggins
(7,904 posts)Check the whitehall papers
whathehell
(29,067 posts)by Her Bloodlessness.
Helen Mirren has brains, talent and heart...All things the queen is looking a bit short on now.
myrna minx
(22,772 posts)joeybee12
(56,177 posts)msongs
(67,420 posts)dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)What's a millionth of a dollar fifty ?
liberalhistorian
(20,818 posts)she seems to serve no real purpose whatsoever and is a cold fish, to boot. She's always been too good for the very people who keep her in such style so that she doesn't have to do anything.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)So you've no real cause to give the matter any thought whatsoever.
liberalhistorian
(20,818 posts)Although I believe my English ancestors felt the same way, but were forced to be a lot quieter about it, obviously.
Wait Wut
(8,492 posts)If so, kindly keep it to yourself...forever.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)You got that one right.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)Your Presidents have only 8 years max occupancy.
Wait Wut
(8,492 posts)...to whine about your queen, dontcha think? We can at least hope for someone we like better, you're just freakin' stuck until she dies.
NotHardly
(1,062 posts)First let me apologize for the rudeness of some of my countrymen & women. You are absolutely right, she is your Queen and of no concern of ours. She has steadfastly well served your country for many decades and she, along with her many family members immediate and distant, do good works that receive little notice. As all notables or at least the very vast majority in the world do come under extreme observation it would seem that many persons believe that they have a right or need to make a judgment (usually the ones they share are harsh... curiously so). However, I am of another opinion in concert with my late grandfather's thinking...
"Unsupportable unsubstantiated opinions are like noses, everybody has one." I should mention that my grandfather was much more precise about the southerly location of the part of human anatomy he meant than I have been.
Quasimodem
(441 posts)My father, who survived well after the years when I used the family television set to watch Happy Days, had that same saying, using the same specific southerly orifice; however, he followed that with a second line, which I believe was sort of original to him, by adding that he thought they should just sit on it.
As for Americans slagging the Queen, or Brits slagging the American President (or any other country's president, for that matter), that's like a bystander telling a strange mother that she has an ugly baby. It's uncalled for. One can oppose the policies of presidents, prime ministers, and royalty (if they actually still retain any power to wield) but not their existence. Only those who have them should have a right to comment upon them. At least, not until asked!
lostincalifornia
(3,639 posts)essentially gossip?
whathehell
(29,067 posts)non-American DUers here can be about American public figures; suffice it to say that "rude", barely begins to describe it at times.
Having all of 7 posts under your belt makes you extremely new...That being the case, I'd suggest you watch and learn for awhile before presuming to apologize for those of us who have been here far longer.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"VERY opinionated many non-American DUers here can be about American public figures..."
I imagine that's because the consequences of the American public figures often go far beyond American borders, American interest and American xenophobia.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)Last edited Tue Dec 10, 2013, 02:15 PM - Edit history (1)
turn around is still fair play.
When you remind us that the "consequences of the American public figures often go far
beyond American borders, American interest and American xenophobia", I wouldn't imagine you'd be
including DUers in that generality, would you?
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Born and lived in London's East End untill he was 16, when he was evacuated during WWII and came to the US.
I would love to have the Queen and the centuries of history--not to mention the accent--that you do.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)bread_and_roses
(6,335 posts)Since institutionalized privilege of all sorts is destructive of the human values I consider important. And I consider the Queen to be a relic of a parasitical hereditary system of Oligarchic power, and the excuse of a monarchy's continued existence on the basis of "tradition" or whatever to be a dangerous sentimentalism. Nor does it matter whether or not a current occupant is "a nice person" or a "do-gooder" or a vapid automaton. I don't know which this queen is, nor do I care - I don't follow the tabloids. It is the privilege that is at issue.
Any power or privilege granted by birth institutionalizes inequality.
That the occupants of GB seem content with their relic is up to them, but I surely do have the right to comment on it, just as I might comment negatively upon the Monarchies of the Gulf - and, I would bet real money, without the hooha generated here by criticism of "the Queen."
last1standing
(11,709 posts)It goes both ways. Either accept our criticism of your country or keep your nose out of ours.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)Turnaround is fair play.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)there are a few here who just cannot bear the thought that others may have a different world view than their own (or the one they have adopted from posts of others - there is an abundance of group-think here.)
You are absolutely correct - the Queen and the monarchy are yours. They have served you well considering your long history as a world leader.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)in their world view. They also fail to realize that QEII is 87 years old, has multiple health issues herself, and is still phenomenally busy.
She cannot be perceived as showing favoritism, either. If she acquiesced to this deserving kid, she'd be inundated daily with similar demands.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)is the sheer lack of comprehension to understand that if the Queen didn't exist the comparison couldn't have been drawn.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)whathehell
(29,067 posts)insecurities, but resorting to self-hating, anti-American clichés really doesn't cut it.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)to read your comment yesterday, whathehell.
Firstly, I wouldn't say I deserve to be qualified as a "Euro wannabe" in your terms, as I am a European in good standing with dual nationality.
Secondly, I truly don't feel any insecurities or self-hatred about my dual-national status. On the contrary, I feel uniquely privileged to be "entre deux chaises" as the French say, or a "Mid-Atlantic" denizen, as the Brits say.
Thirdly, and perhaps most importantly, I was speaking to a fellow European in my post. As a Brit, Dipsy knows as well as I, that the "cliché" of the Ugly American is not just the title of a book and movie.
Unhappily, the loud-mouthed, flag-waving, uber-patriotic, zenophobic and culturally ignorant American is a species very much alive and well, who frequently shows up on these shores.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)"Thirdly and perhaps most importantly, I was speaking to a fellow European in my post".
Sorry, Surya, but if you want to send a PERSONAL message to your "fellow European", lol, you send what's known as a PM, that's
short for "personal message". When posting on the thread, you're talking to EVERYONE on that thread, which, in this instance, would include me.
As for those "loud-mouthed, flag-waving, uber-patriotic, zenophobic and culturally ignorant Americans who are very much alive
and well and frequently show up on these shores"
Well, yes, dear, but they are not "alive and well" on THIS site...If you want to address THEM, you'll need to go to another such as Free Republic, because the fact is, this flap about the Queen has NOTHING to do with being an "ugly American", and everything to do with the fact that since Euros like Dipsy feels free to comment on our public figures, we maintain the same right to comment on theirs.
I do hope this clarifies things for you.
.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)the etiquette of communicating with one another. I saw nothing wrong with the exchange of posts, and as a native of the Deep South of the USA, took no offense at anything said.
Hope you have a good evening, regardless.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)of what I was trying to say to Dipsy. Whatthehell obviously didn't catch on.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)"liberal understanding", LOL?
No, Whathell "catches on" just fine..He's just bright enough to know that
progressive politics doesn't equate to knee-jerk American bashing...Duh.
.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)"liberal understanding", LOL?
No, Whathell "caught on" just fine..He's just bright enough to know that
progressive politics doesn't equate to knee-jerk American bashing...Duh.
.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)twice blessed to receive a double-dip of such scrutiny, or is this just further proof of obsessiveness multiplied by two?
Whatever...
whathehell
(29,067 posts)but since you asked, I'd suggest you consider yourself a pretentious little bore.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)in this particular instance, I would take issue with the qualifier "little".
in the presence of a patently superior wit...
whathehell
(29,067 posts)Although I'm not without fault, I can honestly say that no one in my entire life
has ever called me me "boring" or "pretentious".
With regard to the latter in particular, I somehow doubt that you could say the same.
Surrender accepted....
whathehell
(29,067 posts)My best wishes go to you as well.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)what Aerows told you + my answer to him/her.
See this post:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4156898
whathehell
(29,067 posts)what I told Aerows, and since I've neither the time nor the interest
to read posts you've 'directed' me to read, I'll simply bid you Good Day.
enlightenment
(8,830 posts)Dipsy slags off the President - simply because he exists. Because that is the comparison you are attempting to draw. There is a profound difference in commenting on what a leader does in their role and suggesting that their position is useless and outdated, which is what you've been saying in this thread.
You're starting to look ridiculous and your condescending response to Surya looks just a wee bit xenophobic.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)I "slagged off" the Queen "because she exists"
Sorry, enlightenment, but it seems as if you haven't even read the OP, because my
remarks, like those of most on the thread, were confined to the Queen's behavior in the case of the dying
boy who wanted to see her in addition to her demeanor when speaking publicly of Diana at her death.
I'd say it's the person who gets it all wrong, from start to finish, who "looks ridiculous", wouldn't you?
As for Surya, my supposedly "condescending" attitude didn't start until he began denigrating Americans in general for
daring, it seems, to criticize the monarchy, when foreign DUers like Dipsy criticize American leaders regularly.
Xenophobic?.....Hillarious and if you had ANY idea of who I am and where I've lived and traveled, you'd understand why.
enlightenment
(8,830 posts)that you have an active fantasy life.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)you completely FAIL to repudiate my points or even produce what you demanded of me.
You, it appears, are the one with the "active fantasy life"
pipoman
(16,038 posts)Of an outspoken brit with 37,000 posts on a US political forum stating people in the US can't comment on matters of the UK..lol..ffs
whathehell
(29,067 posts)Retrograde
(10,137 posts)Queen Margrethe II moonlights as a translator, illustrator and costume designer for the theater. Maybe it's just a hobby, or maybe they feel they have to use her designs because she's the queen, but it's not a shabby resume.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)I couldn't believe the incredible coldness with which she delivered her comments on Diana after she died...I honestly felt I was listening to the living dead.
liberalhistorian
(20,818 posts)that Charles had to rebuke her (privately, of course), and explain what Diana really meant to their countrymen (a helluva lot more than his cold fish of a mother) and that she needed to be much warmer and more consoling to the country, or at least ACT like it for them. Unlike Diana, she was so out of touch that she really had no clue how much Diana meant or what she represented. Frankly, I think she's much closer in personality to that cold fish shallow selfish bitch Camilla, another real piece of royal work.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)that I don't really know much about Camilla, so I can't comment on your characterization of her.
xmas74
(29,674 posts)That would be a hard situation to address. The mother of her grandsons who was a very popular public figure, yet no longer part of your family. Former mother-in-laws often do not have nice things to say about the former daughter-in-law.
I'm not a royal apologist but I've always thought that was not an easy situation for her. What she said was more charitable than what many would say about their former in-laws and public be damned.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)was the fact of her son, Prince Charles, cheating on her with C. P. Bowles since the night before his wedding.
xmas74
(29,674 posts)and he is her son. She was a former DIL. Popularity has nothing to do with a family. I'm sure she felt bad-for her grandsons. And I'm sure she had a passing thought of how sad the incident was. In the end, she didn't feel that a former in-law was her responsibility and most "normal" families would act the same way. If my former SIL passed away I'd send perfunctory condolences but wouldn't pull out my hair, through myself down in public, make grand speeches and plan every aspect of her funeral. It wouldn't be my place. (I'd say MIL but she'd passed on before I'd ever had a chance to meet her.)
It was a bad place for her to be in, either way.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)"popularity may have nothing to do with family", she is also a head of state.
Having to be prodded to simply speak to her "subjects" on the matter -- no hair pulling
was expected, I'm sure -- shows how out of touch she was, in my opinion.
xmas74
(29,674 posts)There was no real protocol for the situation-it basically had to be created.
Hindsight is 20/20. They know how poorly they came off, though I always understood why. (And I was a fan of Diana-I just thought the funeral should be understated, held by immediate family and not a media circus that threw those two boys front and center.)
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)Queen. She has had her rough patches, but she stands as one of the world's towering figures.
2banon
(7,321 posts)no call in getting snarky particularly wrt to the historical context - which was a mere blip in our history, and it can be argued that we eventually lost just about everything our forefathers fought and shed so much blood over.
Cuz it's all One big World Order now, so no point in getting self righteous about whose "ass we kicked" 250 years ago. Unless you hail from the 1% - we all got our asses kicked a few decades ago, and we're still the losers. A bit of humility might be in order here..
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)2banon
(7,321 posts)depending on one's pov.. I was of course thinking of the revolutionary war, which yes was not quite 250 years ago. (far less) but my point is that the winners and losers are all on fairly friendly terms (in so far as war mongering nations cab be) to enjoy the benefits of a One World Order thingy that they created, and we're all merely slaves of essentially. thanks for reminding me of 1812..
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)But yes, after the war, we even friend-lied up to England itself, with the disputes that led to the war resolved.
2banon
(7,321 posts)brothers in arms... as they say..
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)even in this "progressive" forum, we see such levels of xenophobic, gung-ho flag-waving. It's enough to make any true liberal blanche with embarrassment.
2banon
(7,321 posts)Puglover
(16,380 posts)But hey she's all yours! Glad you like her so much!
Boudica the Lyoness
(2,899 posts)joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Which is total and complete bullshit.
(Note: I am not saying this is your argument, I am just picking the most favorable 'costing' argument and saying it is disagreeable because it's logically inconsistent; if the British owned the Royal Land they wouldn't have to pay anyone anything.)
I don't know where your $1.50 comes from but even it's probably closer to $5 a year.
That's admittedly much lower than the television license or many other absurd costs that the Brits pay. Still a waste of money to literally indoctrinate a class subjugation system.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)That was last published figure in 2010 : http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10507329
You'll also find if you root around that c. 70% here support our monarchy.
btw - your youtube link was posted by a foreigner.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)And I linked his video because that's how the Royals do their accounting trickery. My link and the video make sense if you put them together.
Of course 70% of Brits support the monarchy, tabloids are super duper popular. Oh, wait, sorry, The Guardian defends them, so they must be OK.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)he's a foreigner.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)pipoman
(16,038 posts)The reason she costs $1.50 per year is because the monarchy stole the wealth of the countries involved for hundreds of years..Surely you aren't pretending the monarchy earned their wealth?
zappaman
(20,606 posts)What an awesome and generous thing to do!
Baitball Blogger
(46,737 posts)big_dog
(4,144 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,737 posts)I see a plot of a dysfunctional family. Maybe a story about a British matriarch and a young American career woman who has mother issues. Maybe the young Lawrence specializes in portrait photography and one day, going through an old box of negatives and photos she comes across pictures of a young Mirren and the similarities intrigue her. She wonders why her own mother became estranged from her grandmother and goes to England to get reacquainted.
I haven't decided if it should be a comedy or a drama. God knows those two could pull it off either way.
Gothmog
(145,321 posts)Poor Jennifer Lawrence had trouble dealing with Jon
Baitball Blogger
(46,737 posts)She handled him in a Jennifer Lawrence kind of way. Unfiltered and real. He was the interviewer and he hadn't even performed basic research on the movie she was promoting. However, Jon Stewart knows talent when he sees it. He was trying to communicate more than just a passing resemblance to Helen Mirren. He was putting her in the same talent category as Mirren. That is high praise, indeed,
calimary
(81,322 posts)Talk about aging well! MAN we should all be so lucky!!!
zappaman
(20,606 posts)2banon
(7,321 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)And she's cool! brilliant, talented, and does good in the world.
Maybe I'll do pink hair.........
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)so I can finally marry and settle down
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)LongTomH
(8,636 posts)Hulk
(6,699 posts)Thanks for sharing. There really are some great people with very kind hearts in this world....many if not most.
The rest of the news bits can be so depressing and divisive.
Demeter
(85,373 posts)and I thought, in this season, we needed some public examples of simple human kindness.
Journeyman
(15,036 posts)Demeter
(85,373 posts)How much effort is it to be nice for a few minutes? It's not like she had to butter the bread and brew the tea herself...
Journeyman
(15,036 posts)Just the experience of being in the Palace would be a kick for him. And I'm certain he'd understand how difficult life can be when you're sick.
(And I'll leave my commentary at this point, since any further notations would be -- I'm certain -- quite rude.)
Boudica the Lyoness
(2,899 posts)I'm sure it would be a kick for me to be entertained by the palace staff, if not her Majesty herself.
Journeyman
(15,036 posts)Queenie'd probably feel she was talking to a more mature version of her own Bonnie Prince Chuck.
RFKHumphreyObama
(15,164 posts)How much trouble would it have been for her to send one of her family to have tea with him -Prince Charles, Prince Harry, Princess Anne, Prince Edward, Princess Sophie, Prince Andrew, whatever. I'm sure if Princess Diana were still alive and part of the royal family, she would have done it -after all, apparently she used to take Princes Harry and William to visit patients with a terminal illness in hospital.
Thank goodness for Helen Mirren stepping up to the plate. What a wonderful, compassionate woman she is
whathehell
(29,067 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,322 posts)In a population of over 60 million, there are many people dying every day - about 1600. Having one family to go and visit any of them who has a dying request to meet one of them is not really practical. Diana did not requests for visits from everyone, especially afternon tea with an individual. She went to hospitals.
certainot
(9,090 posts)Beacool
(30,250 posts)big_dog
(4,144 posts)SunSeeker
(51,574 posts)big_dog
(4,144 posts)SunSeeker
(51,574 posts)As a parent, I can tell you that the nicest thing you could do for me is make my kid happy...especially when they're struggling.
Love that picture. Sheesh...someone must be peeling onions again (sniffle)...
sheshe2
(83,791 posts)Beacool
(30,250 posts)whathehell
(29,067 posts)fishwax
(29,149 posts)Is there such a thing (besides yourself, that is)?
fishwax
(29,149 posts)mahannah
(893 posts)spanone
(135,844 posts)TxDemChem
(1,918 posts)I see she is personally beautiful as well. I think I'll have tea today too.
lpbk2713
(42,759 posts)Thanks for the heartwarming story. It's good to know people like her still walk among us.
mike dub
(541 posts)Helen Mirren is a truly wonderful person.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)...but I believe that Liz has just abdicated in favor of Ms. Mirren.
Long live the Queen!
Historic NY
(37,451 posts)your such a dear. I imagine it was effortless to give some comfort.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)AAO
(3,300 posts)WoodyD
(215 posts)Puglover
(16,380 posts)anymore then I did. What a class act. Queenie Belle, not so much.
Beacool
(30,250 posts)Coincidentally, they are three classy British ladies.
hankthecrank
(653 posts)madrchsod
(58,162 posts)she really is in a class all by herself
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,010 posts)Answer: thousands.
And thousands of dying veterans, dying housewives, dying police officers & firefighters, etc., etc., etc.
Not to mention all the living ones that are merely very sick or disabled or VIPs or dignitaries or ministers in her government, etc., etc., etc.
Your snide remark:
Not your snide remark? Well you didn't use the "excerpt" tags that DU provides for you, so we have to accept it as your own words.
Stuckinthebush
(10,845 posts)The remark was made by the author of the article.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,010 posts)There is an excerpt in the OP quoting the father. It is set off by the blockquote tag which indents. That is a poor substitute for the actual excerpt tag which causes a gray background to be placed behind the excerpt.
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Bernardo de La Paz
(49,010 posts)Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #96)
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Bernardo de La Paz
(49,010 posts)Diclotican
(5,095 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
Royalty - i the few country's who still have it - is about traditions - culture and national pride (even if some of the royals tend to make scandal now and then) Specially when it comes to UK I doubt the royal family will be off the office anytime soon.. Mostly because they for the most part do a good job of representing the UK - specially the Queen Elizabeth II do a great job - and have always doing a good job - in fact she have been on the throne for more than 50 years - and it is just one Queen who have been on the crown longer than the current british Queen...
At the other hand - England have experienced Republic - the 16 years under Cromwell's where it was a strict Puritan republic in place of the kingdom - Charles the I was indeed killed by the soldiers of Cromwell - some claim it was Cronswell itself who executed the king in front of St James in London... It was 16 long and hard days in England - and after Cromwell finally died after many years in power - they could not wait to get him buried before they invited the son of the King - Charles the II back to England - to be crowned as a King again... And England - and after 1707 UK have been a kingdom ever since... And I doubt the british want to abolish the Kingdom anytime soon.. Even after so many years most british have no interest in a republic...
Royals and a ruling King or Queen is maybe a _relic_ but it says something of the country - if they choose to keep their royals - even long after they have stopped ruling in their own right of the country.. Officially the Queen of UK have a lot of power - but is still subject of the Parilament and the government who rule the country - of course on the behalf of the governing Queen.. The current Queen do have a lot of officially - and unofficially power who she can choose to use - the problem is if she does it - the Parliament can censure her... And that have not happened in UK since Charles I who sent soldiers to the Parliament to make sure he got his taxes to fight his wars - and his lifestyle - and then as a result the british Civil War started...
Royals exist as long as most people accept the idea of a royal family - and it still survive in some places in the world - I guess mostly because they do not want to go true the election of a President every now and then - and because as long as the royal family do not do anything catastrophic stupid - then most people tend to forgive and forget... And it is also a stable function in most country's life and history... I doubt Norway had been as stable the first couple of decades of our independence after 1905 if it was not for our royals who worked hard to make most people trust them - specially Haakon the 7th did a great job making sure by traveling all over the country that people get to know him - and to do his best - for all being over the political fray of the day... And that have been some of a mantra for all 3 generations of kings so far - be over the political fray.... (And I suspect they do a good job so far )
Dicloitican
whathehell
(29,067 posts)perhaps, might be.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,010 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)edited
tblue
(16,350 posts)if the Queen showed up.
secondvariety
(1,245 posts)got the better Queen. The choice between spending an afternoon with Queen Elizabeth or Helen Mirren would be a no brainer.
Liberal_Dog
(11,075 posts)What a nice story.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)She knighted him.
:sniffle:
Geeee I'm getting kinda choked up here.
Long live Helen Mirren. And the Queen.
And apologies for the cultural disrespect I'm seeing.
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)And, of course, she wasn't sticking it to the Queen. She was honoring her by trying to give the boy some happiness in her guise.
MFM008
(19,818 posts)take over for the real queen when she goes.....works for me.
liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)Beautiful lady!
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)I think the Queen made the right call on this one. I wonder how many of these"dying child's last wish" are thought up by the parents.
tazkcmo
(7,300 posts)no no, I'll be fine.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)She's brilliant and has a superbly written script.
Martin Eden
(12,870 posts)... was when she was out in the countryside of her estate. It was peaceful & quiet, then she saw a magnificent buck and said softly to herself "Oh ... beauty." The emotion of that moment for her was a priceless relief from the ugliness of everything else she was having to deal with.
Later, the buck was shot dead. For me (in the context of a semi-fictional movie) that was a greater tragedy than Princess Di's car crash.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)And wasn't it by an investment banker? Such excellent symbolism.
spooky3
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MADem
(135,425 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)In John Boorman's quirky but wonderfully expansive Excalibur. For once, a retelling that pays at least some honor to the original legends and their mysticism.
Boorman's blurred definitions and exposition comes off brilliantly, IMHO.
There are stand out roles here. (Look for Patrick Stewart and Liam Neeson.) Merlin (Nichol Williamson) shamelessly steals every scene he's in. He pulls it off.
Nigel Terry plays a flawed Arthur. Helen Mirren plays his corrupt half sister, Morgana Le Fay.
One of my favorites. An absolute knockout soundtrack, with music from Wagner's Götterdamerung, Parsifal, and Tristan and Isolde with Orff's "O Fortuna" from Carmina Burana (my old cat's favorite music, may she rest in peace -- but she always heard it as "O for Tuna!" .
From 1981, a great flick.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)amidst the clutter I call home, lol - thanks for the reminder, maybe I'll rewatch it tonight.
tabasco
(22,974 posts)Any person with an ounce of human dignity would throw down the trappings of "royalty."
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)A lady truly worthy of her enoblement.
Mike Nelson
(9,959 posts)...the "Queen" is overrated. Better to spend his earthly time with more deserving people.
Silent3
(15,234 posts)...be capable, neither individually or together, of keeping up with all of the requests for this sort of thing.
radhika
(1,008 posts)This caused a slight kerfuffle in the UK press years ago - right after Helen won her Oscar. Her priorities are clear.
(clip)
The Queen wanted to have a private dinner with Mirren. Even though the Queens social calendar is etched in stone one year in advance, the Queen had her officials make room for a special dinner with the actress. The date for the private dinner was set for Tuesday, May 01st.
But Mirren sent her regrets. She was too busy to take time out for Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II. Her words: The Palace very kindly extended an invitation to dinner last Tuesday, May 1. But, unfortunately I was filming in South Dakota and unable to change my schedule. I am very sad not to have been able to attend."
(end clip)
http://www.heaven4sure.com/MeandGodQuestions/LifeLessons/tabid/58/ctl/ArticleView/mid/387/articleId/328/Oscar-Actress-Mirren-Rejects-Queens-Invitation.aspx
luckykate54
(50 posts)She is a classy babe
closeupready
(29,503 posts)I'm sure the Queen gets many such requests, and they can't approve all of them, unfortunately.
They are both wonderful women in their own ways.
Rex
(65,616 posts)And it still looks like they have none.
xchrom
(108,903 posts)RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)catbyte
(34,403 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Good for Miss Mirren.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)ryan_cats
(2,061 posts)She is an awesome actress and apparently, an awesome human being too.
She's great in serious roles and was also great in the comedy Reds??
Nice to see her display so much class. To be honest, I'd rather see her than the queen.