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Demeter

(85,373 posts)
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 02:29 PM Dec 2013

Helen Mirren Has Tea with Dying Boy After Actual Queen Says No

http://gawker.com/helen-mirren-has-tea-with-dying-boy-after-actual-queen-509157446

Oliver Burton's dying wish was to visit Buckingham Palace and have afternoon tea with the Queen.

Unfortunately, Her Royal Highness was unable to fit the 10-year-old into her busy schedule of waving at crowds from afar — so understudy Dame Helen Mirren stepped in to take her place.

Oliver, who has Down's syndrome, has been battling various forms of cancer almost his entire life, and was recently diagnosed with terminal spine and bone marrow cancer.

But last week, for a brief wondrous afternoon, his troubles took a backseat to a meeting with the One True Queen...Mirren brought Oliver and his family to Gielgud Theatre to see her play the Queen in Peter Morgan's The Audience. Still dressed as the Queen, she then invited Oliver backstage to have tea and cakes (served by footmen!) and meet her corgis. Mirren even took the time to knight Oliver, giving him the official title of Sir.

"She stayed in character for the whole thing. Oliver thought she was the real Queen, and well, that's good enough for us," Oliver's father James Browne is quoted as saying
.

"It was a pleasure and a privilege to meet such a brave young man," Mirren later told The Sun.


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Helen Mirren Has Tea with Dying Boy After Actual Queen Says No (Original Post) Demeter Dec 2013 OP
Ms Mirren, a class act. spanone Dec 2013 #1
That's Dame Mirren to you :) nt EOTE Dec 2013 #7
i didn't know!!! Dame Mirren.... spanone Dec 2013 #24
Dame Helen Tansy_Gold Dec 2013 #98
Class act NotHardly Dec 2013 #42
Yes, that was a very nice thing to do. I'll tip my cup to Ms Mirren, TheDebbieDee Dec 2013 #106
I would so pick Helen Mirren over the Queen, any day. Baitball Blogger Dec 2013 #2
Amen to that! n/t Yavin4 Dec 2013 #31
If the Queen didn't exist, neither would Helen Mirren as an understudy. bluestate10 Dec 2013 #35
Monarch apologist!!! Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2013 #46
Completely valid point. It would be nice to know. AAO Dec 2013 #51
So she had something more pressing tblue Dec 2013 #56
She has more power than you would think MattBaggins Dec 2013 #81
Oh Please..If Her Highness didn't exist that poor dying boy wouldn't have been rebuffed whathehell Dec 2013 #113
Love her! n/t myrna minx Dec 2013 #3
Hooray for Helen...a class act...knr joeybee12 Dec 2013 #4
Helen Mirren is a benefit to society at one millionth the cost nt msongs Dec 2013 #5
Queen costs us less than about a dollar fifty a year each here in the UK. dipsydoodle Dec 2013 #13
Well, that's good, because liberalhistorian Dec 2013 #22
She's ours : not yours. dipsydoodle Dec 2013 #25
Well, then, I'm glad to let you have her! liberalhistorian Dec 2013 #26
So, do you have an opinion on our President? Wait Wut Dec 2013 #34
LOL! whathehell Dec 2013 #112
That's apples and pears. dipsydoodle Dec 2013 #117
So, that would give even more reason... Wait Wut Dec 2013 #143
She's ours : not yours. NotHardly Dec 2013 #40
It's more personal than a celebrity. Quasimodem Dec 2013 #64
So exactly what should or should not people be allowed to post on DU about stories that are lostincalifornia Dec 2013 #78
LOL..You obviously haven't been here long enough to know how VERY opinionated many whathehell Dec 2013 #153
I imagine that's because the consequences of the American public figures often go far beyond America LanternWaste Dec 2013 #164
That may be, but I'm afraid as many others on this thread have agreed, whathehell Dec 2013 #166
What more could we add anyway? BeyondGeography Dec 2013 #60
my Dad was British! BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2013 #69
You are hers, not us. joshcryer Dec 2013 #88
I consider institutionalized class privilege anywhere it exists to be worthy of comment bread_and_roses Dec 2013 #104
If Americans have no "real cause" to comment on British society what are you doing here? last1standing Dec 2013 #108
No, sorry, but non-American DUers like you give our matters "thought" and comment all the time whathehell Dec 2013 #110
well said DrDan Dec 2013 #116
Hear, hear, dd. American monarchy bashers are so ignorantly narrow Surya Gayatri Dec 2013 #124
What's cracks me up dipsydoodle Dec 2013 #128
Word! Surya Gayatri Dec 2013 #129
Hear, hear. Ex-pat Euro wannabes from Nebraska may be tempted to overcompensate for their whathehell Dec 2013 #148
Only just got on-line after two days, so wasn't able Surya Gayatri Dec 2013 #156
Well, it seems you've made up for lost time, so I shall respond in kind.. whathehell Dec 2013 #159
Glad you clarified things for everyone on DU Aerows Dec 2013 #160
Thank you, Aerows, for your "liberal" understanding Surya Gayatri Dec 2013 #161
Now that I have the time.. whathehell Dec 2013 #167
Now that I have the time.. whathehell Dec 2013 #168
Two for the price of one? Should I consider myself Surya Gayatri Dec 2013 #169
Whatever.. whathehell Dec 2013 #170
Now, there's an interesting example of projection...although Surya Gayatri Dec 2013 #174
Fail... whathehell Dec 2013 #176
Yes, I am too, as it seemed necessary. whathehell Dec 2013 #163
My reply to you, whatthehell, would simply be verbatim Surya Gayatri Dec 2013 #162
and my reply to that, Surya Gayatri, would also be verbatim whathehell Dec 2013 #165
Please point out the posts in which enlightenment Dec 2013 #177
Only if you point out the posts in which whathehell Dec 2013 #178
It's nice to see enlightenment Dec 2013 #179
It's nice to see whathehell Dec 2013 #180
Oh the Iidiotic irony pipoman Dec 2013 #172
THANK you.. whathehell Dec 2013 #181
I think Denmark has a cooler queen Retrograde Dec 2013 #44
Yes.. whathehell Dec 2013 #111
Indeed, that was one of the rare times liberalhistorian Dec 2013 #131
I have to say, whathehell Dec 2013 #147
Who was also her former daughter-in-law. xmas74 Dec 2013 #140
So what?...She was hugely popular and much of the caused her to be "former" whathehell Dec 2013 #144
But in the end, family is family xmas74 Dec 2013 #145
Maybe, but this was the mother of two of her grandsons, and, besides, though whathehell Dec 2013 #149
It was just a rotten situation for all involved. xmas74 Dec 2013 #152
You love your Queen. I get that. We kicked your a-- a while back, but I admire the bluestate10 Dec 2013 #38
"we kicked your a--" not very appropriate - 2banon Dec 2013 #45
1812 was 201 years ago... AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #61
True.. losing track of time, but some argue that Canada kicked our asses in that one 2banon Dec 2013 #82
Canada definitely landed a solid punch or two, that's for sure. AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #83
historically lots of snags in our alliances since and even now, but they all remain 2banon Dec 2013 #84
Hell, some want to re-fight the Civil War. Eleanors38 Dec 2013 #93
Particularly apropos post, 2banon. Astonishing that, Surya Gayatri Dec 2013 #126
embarrassing, astonishing, not enough adjectives to express my reaction as well. eom. 2banon Dec 2013 #142
IMHO You're not getting your monies worth. Puglover Dec 2013 #54
Thanks for sorting that out. Boudica the Lyoness Dec 2013 #66
I don't buy the "we don't pay full cost leases" argument. joshcryer Dec 2013 #87
It was actually lower than I said : 62p which is c. 99 cents. dipsydoodle Dec 2013 #118
CP Gray is well respected. joshcryer Dec 2013 #122
Which doesn't change the fact dipsydoodle Dec 2013 #123
Good enough to teach in your schools. joshcryer Dec 2013 #125
Of coarse pipoman Dec 2013 #173
I love Helen Mirren! zappaman Dec 2013 #6
As Jon Stewart pointed out, Jennifer Lawrence looks like the young Mirren, Baitball Blogger Dec 2013 #11
Jon Stewart is right, Helen Mirren 'rising star' of 1969: spitting image of J-Law big_dog Dec 2013 #36
Some writer should come up with a script for those two. Baitball Blogger Dec 2013 #50
Jon was in good form Gothmog Dec 2013 #132
Actually, I saw it the other way around. Baitball Blogger Dec 2013 #135
Actually I find her more beautiful now, in her later years. calimary Dec 2013 #14
No kidding! n/t zappaman Dec 2013 #20
Yes, I agree. She's better looking now than when she was young lass. eom 2banon Dec 2013 #48
really! BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2013 #74
I've been hoping against hope that science would be able to clone her Blue_Tires Dec 2013 #37
I mean look at this woman, she's still extremely hot ... just about the coolest person. YOHABLO Dec 2013 #105
Dame Helen is a beautiful lady, in so many ways! LongTomH Dec 2013 #8
Wonderful bit of news Hulk Dec 2013 #9
This is a story from May, but I just found it Demeter Dec 2013 #10
Even though the story's from months ago, I suspect the Queen is still a royal ____ . . . Journeyman Dec 2013 #16
The official line is the Queen is quite ill Demeter Dec 2013 #18
So's the boy. I wonder why he wasn't invited to the Palace and entertained by the help? . . . Journeyman Dec 2013 #23
I am sick as well Boudica the Lyoness Dec 2013 #68
It would be. Especially if you were a dying 10 year old . . . Journeyman Dec 2013 #73
Even if the Queen couldn't attend for whatever reason RFKHumphreyObama Dec 2013 #99
Exactly...n/t whathehell Dec 2013 #114
Quite a lot of effort, actually muriel_volestrangler Dec 2013 #121
fucken beauty - i think helen's australian! right? certainot Dec 2013 #12
No, she's British. Beacool Dec 2013 #100
awesome! k&r big_dog Dec 2013 #15
Great pictures. Thanks! nt SunSeeker Dec 2013 #33
what a class act big_dog Dec 2013 #39
Indeed. It's a wonderful think she did for that kid, and for everyone who cared about him. SunSeeker Dec 2013 #89
beautiful pictures, big_dog. Thank you! sheshe2 Dec 2013 #90
Lovely pic. Beacool Dec 2013 #101
Great picture, Big Dog. Thanks. n/t whathehell Dec 2013 #154
a cool story fishwax Dec 2013 #17
Fishwax? Demeter Dec 2013 #19
not that I know of fishwax Dec 2013 #21
In these days of crap for news, nice to read. mahannah Dec 2013 #27
a picture of Dame Mirren @ age 25 spanone Dec 2013 #28
Yes! DeSwiss Dec 2013 #107
Quite a dame. I just love her work. TxDemChem Dec 2013 #29
What a gracious lady. lpbk2713 Dec 2013 #30
Wonderful story! thanks for posting, Demeter mike dub Dec 2013 #32
I'm no expert on royal succession... Orsino Dec 2013 #41
Brilliant, Helen, brilliant... Historic NY Dec 2013 #43
wonderful Liberal_in_LA Dec 2013 #47
One of the coolest things I've ever heard of! Thank you, Helen! AAO Dec 2013 #49
What a dame! N/T WoodyD Dec 2013 #52
I didn't know I could admire Ms. Mirren Puglover Dec 2013 #53
One of my favorite actresses, along with Judi Dench and Angela Lansbury. Beacool Dec 2013 #55
Nicely done and shows a big heart hankthecrank Dec 2013 #57
since i`m an old guy i can say helen is still hot...lol madrchsod Dec 2013 #58
Yep. Number 1 on the AARP charts. Eleanors38 Dec 2013 #94
Obviously you have zero clue how many dying kids want to have tea with the Queen. Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2013 #59
Or you could click on the link and read it for yourself Stuckinthebush Dec 2013 #63
DU programmers wrote the code for the excerpt tag to be used. Not to be admired from afar. Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2013 #65
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #91
No bum hand. She (nor Mandela nor George Clooney) can't accept even a small fraction of requests. nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2013 #96
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #97
Yeah, I agree. Royalty is a relic and should be abolished. Keep the tourist attractions. nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2013 #102
Bernardo de La Paz Diclotican Dec 2013 #109
Mabye that's because we're not as in awe of figurehead monarchs as a young, dying subject, and you whathehell Dec 2013 #115
Please see my post #102 previous to this #115 of yours. Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2013 #119
So the Queen should rent out Wembley and have the thousands come for tea bigwillq Dec 2013 #158
I would've wished for Helen and been disappointed tblue Dec 2013 #62
+1 rateyes Dec 2013 #76
The young man secondvariety Dec 2013 #85
K & R Liberal_Dog Dec 2013 #67
sniff... BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2013 #70
So good of her BeyondGeography Dec 2013 #71
Lets let Dame Helen MFM008 Dec 2013 #72
Methinks this was better than meeting the actual queen. liberalmuse Dec 2013 #75
i'm no fan of the monarchy, although I respect Elizabeth II as a person - hedgehog Dec 2013 #77
Something in my eye. tazkcmo Dec 2013 #79
If you've not seen her in The Queen, go rent it LittleBlue Dec 2013 #80
The scene from that movie that really stuck with me ... Martin Eden Dec 2013 #134
I agree LittleBlue Dec 2013 #141
I love this story. Brava! spooky3 Dec 2013 #86
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #92
What.....A......WOMAN!!!!! I was always impressed, even more so now! nt MADem Dec 2013 #95
One of her early breakout roles: Morgana Le Fay longship Dec 2013 #103
Oh yes, I LOVED that film. I actually have it here somewhere closeupready Dec 2013 #139
"Monarch" on public welfare too busy to help dying kid tabasco Dec 2013 #120
Dame Helen--compassion incarnate, love on two beautiful legs. Surya Gayatri Dec 2013 #127
Good, the dying boy is MUCH better off... Mike Nelson Dec 2013 #130
Great thing to do! To be fair, however, neither Mirren nor the Queen would ever... Silent3 Dec 2013 #133
Remember when Dame Helen declined to meet with the Queen herself... radhika Dec 2013 #136
I love her luckykate54 Dec 2013 #137
Nice one. I actually like both of them, though. closeupready Dec 2013 #138
Well no one ever accused the Royals of having any class. Rex Dec 2013 #146
du rec. xchrom Dec 2013 #150
GREAT ! Thanks Helen ! RBInMaine Dec 2013 #151
Pure.Class! catbyte Dec 2013 #155
Classy bigwillq Dec 2013 #157
awww. Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #171
She is awesome ryan_cats Dec 2013 #175
 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
106. Yes, that was a very nice thing to do. I'll tip my cup to Ms Mirren,
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 12:56 AM
Dec 2013

the next time I have a cup, that is.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
35. If the Queen didn't exist, neither would Helen Mirren as an understudy.
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 03:32 PM
Dec 2013

The Queen likely gets many requests like this one and likely fill the majority of them. But, it only takes one well publicized instance to undue all the good that is quietly done.

tblue

(16,350 posts)
56. So she had something more pressing
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 04:42 PM
Dec 2013

or she had too many subjects asking for her time and this kid didn't make the cut. I get it; she's busy. What purpose does she serve really, other than meeting with people and photo ops?

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
113. Oh Please..If Her Highness didn't exist that poor dying boy wouldn't have been rebuffed
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 09:03 AM
Dec 2013

by Her Bloodlessness.

Helen Mirren has brains, talent and heart...All things the queen is looking a bit short on now.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
13. Queen costs us less than about a dollar fifty a year each here in the UK.
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 02:52 PM
Dec 2013

What's a millionth of a dollar fifty ?

liberalhistorian

(20,818 posts)
22. Well, that's good, because
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 03:01 PM
Dec 2013

she seems to serve no real purpose whatsoever and is a cold fish, to boot. She's always been too good for the very people who keep her in such style so that she doesn't have to do anything.

liberalhistorian

(20,818 posts)
26. Well, then, I'm glad to let you have her!
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 03:14 PM
Dec 2013

Although I believe my English ancestors felt the same way, but were forced to be a lot quieter about it, obviously.

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
143. So, that would give even more reason...
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 09:21 PM
Dec 2013

...to whine about your queen, dontcha think? We can at least hope for someone we like better, you're just freakin' stuck until she dies.

NotHardly

(1,062 posts)
40. She's ours : not yours.
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 03:43 PM
Dec 2013

First let me apologize for the rudeness of some of my countrymen & women. You are absolutely right, she is your Queen and of no concern of ours. She has steadfastly well served your country for many decades and she, along with her many family members immediate and distant, do good works that receive little notice. As all notables or at least the very vast majority in the world do come under extreme observation it would seem that many persons believe that they have a right or need to make a judgment (usually the ones they share are harsh... curiously so). However, I am of another opinion in concert with my late grandfather's thinking...
"Unsupportable unsubstantiated opinions are like noses, everybody has one." I should mention that my grandfather was much more precise about the southerly location of the part of human anatomy he meant than I have been.

Quasimodem

(441 posts)
64. It's more personal than a celebrity.
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 04:48 PM
Dec 2013

My father, who survived well after the years when I used the family television set to watch “Happy Days,” had that same saying, using the same specific southerly orifice; however, he followed that with a second line, which I believe was sort of original to him, by adding that he thought they should just “sit on it.”

As for Americans slagging the Queen, or Brits slagging the American President (or any other country's president, for that matter), that's like a bystander telling a strange mother that she has an ugly baby. It's uncalled for. One can oppose the policies of presidents, prime ministers, and royalty (if they actually still retain any power to wield) but not their existence. Only those who have them should have a right to comment upon them. At least, not until asked!

lostincalifornia

(3,639 posts)
78. So exactly what should or should not people be allowed to post on DU about stories that are
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 05:43 PM
Dec 2013

essentially gossip?

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
153. LOL..You obviously haven't been here long enough to know how VERY opinionated many
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 11:26 AM
Dec 2013

non-American DUers here can be about American public figures; suffice it to say that "rude", barely begins to describe it at times.

Having all of 7 posts under your belt makes you extremely new...That being the case, I'd suggest you watch and learn for awhile before presuming to apologize for those of us who have been here far longer.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
164. I imagine that's because the consequences of the American public figures often go far beyond America
Tue Dec 10, 2013, 09:40 AM
Dec 2013

"VERY opinionated many non-American DUers here can be about American public figures..."

I imagine that's because the consequences of the American public figures often go far beyond American borders, American interest and American xenophobia.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
166. That may be, but I'm afraid as many others on this thread have agreed,
Tue Dec 10, 2013, 09:49 AM
Dec 2013

Last edited Tue Dec 10, 2013, 02:15 PM - Edit history (1)

turn around is still fair play.

When you remind us that the "consequences of the American public figures often go far

beyond American borders, American interest and American xenophobia", I wouldn't imagine you'd be

including DUers in that generality, would you?

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
69. my Dad was British!
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 05:14 PM
Dec 2013

Born and lived in London's East End untill he was 16, when he was evacuated during WWII and came to the US.


I would love to have the Queen and the centuries of history--not to mention the accent--that you do.


bread_and_roses

(6,335 posts)
104. I consider institutionalized class privilege anywhere it exists to be worthy of comment
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 11:34 PM
Dec 2013

Since institutionalized privilege of all sorts is destructive of the human values I consider important. And I consider the Queen to be a relic of a parasitical hereditary system of Oligarchic power, and the excuse of a monarchy's continued existence on the basis of "tradition" or whatever to be a dangerous sentimentalism. Nor does it matter whether or not a current occupant is "a nice person" or a "do-gooder" or a vapid automaton. I don't know which this queen is, nor do I care - I don't follow the tabloids. It is the privilege that is at issue.

Any power or privilege granted by birth institutionalizes inequality.

That the occupants of GB seem content with their relic is up to them, but I surely do have the right to comment on it, just as I might comment negatively upon the Monarchies of the Gulf - and, I would bet real money, without the hooha generated here by criticism of "the Queen."

last1standing

(11,709 posts)
108. If Americans have no "real cause" to comment on British society what are you doing here?
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 04:13 AM
Dec 2013

It goes both ways. Either accept our criticism of your country or keep your nose out of ours.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
110. No, sorry, but non-American DUers like you give our matters "thought" and comment all the time
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 08:48 AM
Dec 2013

Turnaround is fair play.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
116. well said
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 09:50 AM
Dec 2013

there are a few here who just cannot bear the thought that others may have a different world view than their own (or the one they have adopted from posts of others - there is an abundance of group-think here.)

You are absolutely correct - the Queen and the monarchy are yours. They have served you well considering your long history as a world leader.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
124. Hear, hear, dd. American monarchy bashers are so ignorantly narrow
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 10:45 AM
Dec 2013

in their world view. They also fail to realize that QEII is 87 years old, has multiple health issues herself, and is still phenomenally busy.

She cannot be perceived as showing favoritism, either. If she acquiesced to this deserving kid, she'd be inundated daily with similar demands.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
128. What's cracks me up
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 11:10 AM
Dec 2013

is the sheer lack of comprehension to understand that if the Queen didn't exist the comparison couldn't have been drawn.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
148. Hear, hear. Ex-pat Euro wannabes from Nebraska may be tempted to overcompensate for their
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 07:31 AM
Dec 2013

insecurities, but resorting to self-hating, anti-American clichés really doesn't cut it.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
156. Only just got on-line after two days, so wasn't able
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 06:06 PM
Dec 2013

to read your comment yesterday, whathehell.

Firstly, I wouldn't say I deserve to be qualified as a "Euro wannabe" in your terms, as I am a European in good standing with dual nationality.

Secondly, I truly don't feel any insecurities or self-hatred about my dual-national status. On the contrary, I feel uniquely privileged to be "entre deux chaises" as the French say, or a "Mid-Atlantic" denizen, as the Brits say.

Thirdly, and perhaps most importantly, I was speaking to a fellow European in my post. As a Brit, Dipsy knows as well as I, that the "cliché" of the Ugly American is not just the title of a book and movie.

Unhappily, the loud-mouthed, flag-waving, uber-patriotic, zenophobic and culturally ignorant American is a species very much alive and well, who frequently shows up on these shores.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
159. Well, it seems you've made up for lost time, so I shall respond in kind..
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 09:54 PM
Dec 2013

"Thirdly and perhaps most importantly, I was speaking to a fellow European in my post".

Sorry, Surya, but if you want to send a PERSONAL message to your "fellow European", lol, you send what's known as a PM, that's
short for "personal message". When posting on the thread, you're talking to EVERYONE on that thread, which, in this instance, would include me.

As for those "loud-mouthed, flag-waving, uber-patriotic, zenophobic and culturally ignorant Americans who are very much alive
and well and frequently show up on these shores"

Well, yes, dear, but they are not "alive and well" on THIS site...If you want to address THEM, you'll need to go to another such as Free Republic, because the fact is, this flap about the Queen has NOTHING to do with being an "ugly American", and everything to do with the fact that since Euros like Dipsy feels free to comment on our public figures, we maintain the same right to comment on theirs.

I do hope this clarifies things for you.

.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
160. Glad you clarified things for everyone on DU
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 10:11 PM
Dec 2013

the etiquette of communicating with one another. I saw nothing wrong with the exchange of posts, and as a native of the Deep South of the USA, took no offense at anything said.

Hope you have a good evening, regardless.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
161. Thank you, Aerows, for your "liberal" understanding
Tue Dec 10, 2013, 06:30 AM
Dec 2013

of what I was trying to say to Dipsy. Whatthehell obviously didn't catch on.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
167. Now that I have the time..
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 09:00 AM
Dec 2013

"liberal understanding", LOL?

No, Whathell "catches on" just fine..He's just bright enough to know that

progressive politics doesn't equate to knee-jerk American bashing...Duh.
.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
168. Now that I have the time..
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 09:00 AM
Dec 2013

"liberal understanding", LOL?

No, Whathell "caught on" just fine..He's just bright enough to know that

progressive politics doesn't equate to knee-jerk American bashing...Duh.
.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
169. Two for the price of one? Should I consider myself
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 05:20 AM
Dec 2013

twice blessed to receive a double-dip of such scrutiny, or is this just further proof of obsessiveness multiplied by two?

Whatever...

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
174. Now, there's an interesting example of projection...although
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 06:33 PM
Dec 2013

in this particular instance, I would take issue with the qualifier "little".

in the presence of a patently superior wit...

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
176. Fail...
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 05:14 PM
Dec 2013

Although I'm not without fault, I can honestly say that no one in my entire life

has ever called me me "boring" or "pretentious".

With regard to the latter in particular, I somehow doubt that you could say the same.

Surrender accepted....

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
165. and my reply to that, Surya Gayatri, would also be verbatim
Tue Dec 10, 2013, 09:40 AM
Dec 2013

what I told Aerows, and since I've neither the time nor the interest

to read posts you've 'directed' me to read, I'll simply bid you Good Day.

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
177. Please point out the posts in which
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 05:49 PM
Dec 2013

Dipsy slags off the President - simply because he exists. Because that is the comparison you are attempting to draw. There is a profound difference in commenting on what a leader does in their role and suggesting that their position is useless and outdated, which is what you've been saying in this thread.

You're starting to look ridiculous and your condescending response to Surya looks just a wee bit xenophobic.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
178. Only if you point out the posts in which
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 09:19 AM
Dec 2013

I "slagged off" the Queen "because she exists"

Sorry, enlightenment, but it seems as if you haven't even read the OP, because my

remarks, like those of most on the thread, were confined to the Queen's behavior in the case of the dying

boy who wanted to see her in addition to her demeanor when speaking publicly of Diana at her death.

I'd say it's the person who gets it all wrong, from start to finish, who "looks ridiculous", wouldn't you?

As for Surya, my supposedly "condescending" attitude didn't start until he began denigrating Americans in general for

daring, it seems, to criticize the monarchy, when foreign DUers like Dipsy criticize American leaders regularly.

Xenophobic?.....Hillarious and if you had ANY idea of who I am and where I've lived and traveled, you'd understand why.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
180. It's nice to see
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 08:18 AM
Dec 2013

you completely FAIL to repudiate my points or even produce what you demanded of me.

You, it appears, are the one with the "active fantasy life"

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
172. Oh the Iidiotic irony
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 09:58 AM
Dec 2013

Of an outspoken brit with 37,000 posts on a US political forum stating people in the US can't comment on matters of the UK..lol..ffs

Retrograde

(10,137 posts)
44. I think Denmark has a cooler queen
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 04:03 PM
Dec 2013

Queen Margrethe II moonlights as a translator, illustrator and costume designer for the theater. Maybe it's just a hobby, or maybe they feel they have to use her designs because she's the queen, but it's not a shabby resume.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
111. Yes..
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 08:52 AM
Dec 2013

I couldn't believe the incredible coldness with which she delivered her comments on Diana after she died...I honestly felt I was listening to the living dead.

liberalhistorian

(20,818 posts)
131. Indeed, that was one of the rare times
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 12:08 PM
Dec 2013

that Charles had to rebuke her (privately, of course), and explain what Diana really meant to their countrymen (a helluva lot more than his cold fish of a mother) and that she needed to be much warmer and more consoling to the country, or at least ACT like it for them. Unlike Diana, she was so out of touch that she really had no clue how much Diana meant or what she represented. Frankly, I think she's much closer in personality to that cold fish shallow selfish bitch Camilla, another real piece of royal work.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
147. I have to say,
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 06:52 AM
Dec 2013

that I don't really know much about Camilla, so I can't comment on your characterization of her.

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
140. Who was also her former daughter-in-law.
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 02:14 PM
Dec 2013

That would be a hard situation to address. The mother of her grandsons who was a very popular public figure, yet no longer part of your family. Former mother-in-laws often do not have nice things to say about the former daughter-in-law.

I'm not a royal apologist but I've always thought that was not an easy situation for her. What she said was more charitable than what many would say about their former in-laws and public be damned.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
144. So what?...She was hugely popular and much of the caused her to be "former"
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 10:45 PM
Dec 2013

was the fact of her son, Prince Charles, cheating on her with C. P. Bowles since the night before his wedding.

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
145. But in the end, family is family
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 02:42 AM
Dec 2013

and he is her son. She was a former DIL. Popularity has nothing to do with a family. I'm sure she felt bad-for her grandsons. And I'm sure she had a passing thought of how sad the incident was. In the end, she didn't feel that a former in-law was her responsibility and most "normal" families would act the same way. If my former SIL passed away I'd send perfunctory condolences but wouldn't pull out my hair, through myself down in public, make grand speeches and plan every aspect of her funeral. It wouldn't be my place. (I'd say MIL but she'd passed on before I'd ever had a chance to meet her.)

It was a bad place for her to be in, either way.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
149. Maybe, but this was the mother of two of her grandsons, and, besides, though
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 07:50 AM
Dec 2013

"popularity may have nothing to do with family", she is also a head of state.

Having to be prodded to simply speak to her "subjects" on the matter -- no hair pulling

was expected, I'm sure -- shows how out of touch she was, in my opinion.

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
152. It was just a rotten situation for all involved.
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 09:22 AM
Dec 2013

There was no real protocol for the situation-it basically had to be created.

Hindsight is 20/20. They know how poorly they came off, though I always understood why. (And I was a fan of Diana-I just thought the funeral should be understated, held by immediate family and not a media circus that threw those two boys front and center.)

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
38. You love your Queen. I get that. We kicked your a-- a while back, but I admire the
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 03:34 PM
Dec 2013

Queen. She has had her rough patches, but she stands as one of the world's towering figures.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
45. "we kicked your a--" not very appropriate -
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 04:08 PM
Dec 2013

no call in getting snarky particularly wrt to the historical context - which was a mere blip in our history, and it can be argued that we eventually lost just about everything our forefathers fought and shed so much blood over.

Cuz it's all One big World Order now, so no point in getting self righteous about whose "ass we kicked" 250 years ago. Unless you hail from the 1% - we all got our asses kicked a few decades ago, and we're still the losers. A bit of humility might be in order here..

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
82. True.. losing track of time, but some argue that Canada kicked our asses in that one
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 06:02 PM
Dec 2013

depending on one's pov.. I was of course thinking of the revolutionary war, which yes was not quite 250 years ago. (far less) but my point is that the winners and losers are all on fairly friendly terms (in so far as war mongering nations cab be) to enjoy the benefits of a One World Order thingy that they created, and we're all merely slaves of essentially. thanks for reminding me of 1812..

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
83. Canada definitely landed a solid punch or two, that's for sure.
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 06:09 PM
Dec 2013

But yes, after the war, we even friend-lied up to England itself, with the disputes that led to the war resolved.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
84. historically lots of snags in our alliances since and even now, but they all remain
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 06:24 PM
Dec 2013

brothers in arms... as they say..

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
126. Particularly apropos post, 2banon. Astonishing that,
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 10:53 AM
Dec 2013

even in this "progressive" forum, we see such levels of xenophobic, gung-ho flag-waving. It's enough to make any true liberal blanche with embarrassment.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
87. I don't buy the "we don't pay full cost leases" argument.
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 07:01 PM
Dec 2013

Which is total and complete bullshit.



(Note: I am not saying this is your argument, I am just picking the most favorable 'costing' argument and saying it is disagreeable because it's logically inconsistent; if the British owned the Royal Land they wouldn't have to pay anyone anything.)

I don't know where your $1.50 comes from but even it's probably closer to $5 a year.

That's admittedly much lower than the television license or many other absurd costs that the Brits pay. Still a waste of money to literally indoctrinate a class subjugation system.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
118. It was actually lower than I said : 62p which is c. 99 cents.
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 10:06 AM
Dec 2013

That was last published figure in 2010 : http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10507329

You'll also find if you root around that c. 70% here support our monarchy.

btw - your youtube link was posted by a foreigner.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
122. CP Gray is well respected.
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 10:32 AM
Dec 2013

And I linked his video because that's how the Royals do their accounting trickery. My link and the video make sense if you put them together.

The counterargument is that the revenues generated by the Crown Estate, surrendered by George III 250 years ago, either far exceed the amount of money allotted to the royals or come close to matching it, depending on which figure you use for the monarchy's cost. So the Windsors are either a source of profit for the government, or a negligible expense. But British republicans don't accept that the Crown Estate belongs to the Monarch: As the Centre for Citizenship insists, "The Crown Estate is, in fact, the property of the people of Britain. The Windsors have no more right to it than the Prime Minister has to 10 Downing Street."


Of course 70% of Brits support the monarchy, tabloids are super duper popular. Oh, wait, sorry, The Guardian defends them, so they must be OK.
 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
173. Of coarse
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 10:16 AM
Dec 2013

The reason she costs $1.50 per year is because the monarchy stole the wealth of the countries involved for hundreds of years..Surely you aren't pretending the monarchy earned their wealth?

Baitball Blogger

(46,737 posts)
50. Some writer should come up with a script for those two.
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 04:24 PM
Dec 2013

I see a plot of a dysfunctional family. Maybe a story about a British matriarch and a young American career woman who has mother issues. Maybe the young Lawrence specializes in portrait photography and one day, going through an old box of negatives and photos she comes across pictures of a young Mirren and the similarities intrigue her. She wonders why her own mother became estranged from her grandmother and goes to England to get reacquainted.

I haven't decided if it should be a comedy or a drama. God knows those two could pull it off either way.

Baitball Blogger

(46,737 posts)
135. Actually, I saw it the other way around.
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 01:34 PM
Dec 2013

She handled him in a Jennifer Lawrence kind of way. Unfiltered and real. He was the interviewer and he hadn't even performed basic research on the movie she was promoting. However, Jon Stewart knows talent when he sees it. He was trying to communicate more than just a passing resemblance to Helen Mirren. He was putting her in the same talent category as Mirren. That is high praise, indeed,

calimary

(81,322 posts)
14. Actually I find her more beautiful now, in her later years.
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 02:53 PM
Dec 2013

Talk about aging well! MAN we should all be so lucky!!!

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
74. really!
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 05:24 PM
Dec 2013

And she's cool! brilliant, talented, and does good in the world.

Maybe I'll do pink hair.........

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
37. I've been hoping against hope that science would be able to clone her
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 03:33 PM
Dec 2013

so I can finally marry and settle down

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
9. Wonderful bit of news
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 02:45 PM
Dec 2013

Thanks for sharing. There really are some great people with very kind hearts in this world....many if not most.
The rest of the news bits can be so depressing and divisive.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
10. This is a story from May, but I just found it
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 02:45 PM
Dec 2013

and I thought, in this season, we needed some public examples of simple human kindness.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
18. The official line is the Queen is quite ill
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 02:56 PM
Dec 2013

How much effort is it to be nice for a few minutes? It's not like she had to butter the bread and brew the tea herself...

Journeyman

(15,036 posts)
23. So's the boy. I wonder why he wasn't invited to the Palace and entertained by the help? . . .
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 03:06 PM
Dec 2013

Just the experience of being in the Palace would be a kick for him. And I'm certain he'd understand how difficult life can be when you're sick.

(And I'll leave my commentary at this point, since any further notations would be -- I'm certain -- quite rude.)

 

Boudica the Lyoness

(2,899 posts)
68. I am sick as well
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 05:12 PM
Dec 2013

I'm sure it would be a kick for me to be entertained by the palace staff, if not her Majesty herself.

Journeyman

(15,036 posts)
73. It would be. Especially if you were a dying 10 year old . . .
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 05:22 PM
Dec 2013

Queenie'd probably feel she was talking to a more mature version of her own Bonnie Prince Chuck.

RFKHumphreyObama

(15,164 posts)
99. Even if the Queen couldn't attend for whatever reason
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 10:42 PM
Dec 2013

How much trouble would it have been for her to send one of her family to have tea with him -Prince Charles, Prince Harry, Princess Anne, Prince Edward, Princess Sophie, Prince Andrew, whatever. I'm sure if Princess Diana were still alive and part of the royal family, she would have done it -after all, apparently she used to take Princes Harry and William to visit patients with a terminal illness in hospital.

Thank goodness for Helen Mirren stepping up to the plate. What a wonderful, compassionate woman she is

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
121. Quite a lot of effort, actually
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 10:24 AM
Dec 2013

In a population of over 60 million, there are many people dying every day - about 1600. Having one family to go and visit any of them who has a dying request to meet one of them is not really practical. Diana did not requests for visits from everyone, especially afternon tea with an individual. She went to hospitals.

SunSeeker

(51,574 posts)
89. Indeed. It's a wonderful think she did for that kid, and for everyone who cared about him.
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 08:37 PM
Dec 2013

As a parent, I can tell you that the nicest thing you could do for me is make my kid happy...especially when they're struggling.



Love that picture. Sheesh...someone must be peeling onions again (sniffle)...

TxDemChem

(1,918 posts)
29. Quite a dame. I just love her work.
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 03:17 PM
Dec 2013

I see she is personally beautiful as well. I think I'll have tea today too.

lpbk2713

(42,759 posts)
30. What a gracious lady.
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 03:19 PM
Dec 2013



Thanks for the heartwarming story. It's good to know people like her still walk among us.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
41. I'm no expert on royal succession...
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 03:49 PM
Dec 2013

...but I believe that Liz has just abdicated in favor of Ms. Mirren.

Long live the Queen!

Puglover

(16,380 posts)
53. I didn't know I could admire Ms. Mirren
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 04:30 PM
Dec 2013

anymore then I did. What a class act. Queenie Belle, not so much.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
55. One of my favorite actresses, along with Judi Dench and Angela Lansbury.
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 04:39 PM
Dec 2013

Coincidentally, they are three classy British ladies.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,010 posts)
59. Obviously you have zero clue how many dying kids want to have tea with the Queen.
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 04:45 PM
Dec 2013

Answer: thousands.

And thousands of dying veterans, dying housewives, dying police officers & firefighters, etc., etc., etc.

Not to mention all the living ones that are merely very sick or disabled or VIPs or dignitaries or ministers in her government, etc., etc., etc.

Your snide remark:

Unfortunately, Her Royal Highness was unable to fit the 10-year-old into her busy schedule of waving at crowds from afar


Not your snide remark? Well you didn't use the "excerpt" tags that DU provides for you, so we have to accept it as your own words.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,010 posts)
65. DU programmers wrote the code for the excerpt tag to be used. Not to be admired from afar.
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 04:51 PM
Dec 2013

There is an excerpt in the OP quoting the father. It is set off by the blockquote tag which indents. That is a poor substitute for the actual excerpt tag which causes a gray background to be placed behind the excerpt.

Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #59)

Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #96)

Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
109. Bernardo de La Paz
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 07:10 AM
Dec 2013

Bernardo de La Paz

Royalty - i the few country's who still have it - is about traditions - culture and national pride (even if some of the royals tend to make scandal now and then) Specially when it comes to UK I doubt the royal family will be off the office anytime soon.. Mostly because they for the most part do a good job of representing the UK - specially the Queen Elizabeth II do a great job - and have always doing a good job - in fact she have been on the throne for more than 50 years - and it is just one Queen who have been on the crown longer than the current british Queen...

At the other hand - England have experienced Republic - the 16 years under Cromwell's where it was a strict Puritan republic in place of the kingdom - Charles the I was indeed killed by the soldiers of Cromwell - some claim it was Cronswell itself who executed the king in front of St James in London... It was 16 long and hard days in England - and after Cromwell finally died after many years in power - they could not wait to get him buried before they invited the son of the King - Charles the II back to England - to be crowned as a King again... And England - and after 1707 UK have been a kingdom ever since... And I doubt the british want to abolish the Kingdom anytime soon.. Even after so many years most british have no interest in a republic...

Royals and a ruling King or Queen is maybe a _relic_ but it says something of the country - if they choose to keep their royals - even long after they have stopped ruling in their own right of the country.. Officially the Queen of UK have a lot of power - but is still subject of the Parilament and the government who rule the country - of course on the behalf of the governing Queen.. The current Queen do have a lot of officially - and unofficially power who she can choose to use - the problem is if she does it - the Parliament can censure her... And that have not happened in UK since Charles I who sent soldiers to the Parliament to make sure he got his taxes to fight his wars - and his lifestyle - and then as a result the british Civil War started...

Royals exist as long as most people accept the idea of a royal family - and it still survive in some places in the world - I guess mostly because they do not want to go true the election of a President every now and then - and because as long as the royal family do not do anything catastrophic stupid - then most people tend to forgive and forget... And it is also a stable function in most country's life and history... I doubt Norway had been as stable the first couple of decades of our independence after 1905 if it was not for our royals who worked hard to make most people trust them - specially Haakon the 7th did a great job making sure by traveling all over the country that people get to know him - and to do his best - for all being over the political fray of the day... And that have been some of a mantra for all 3 generations of kings so far - be over the political fray.... (And I suspect they do a good job so far )

Dicloitican

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
115. Mabye that's because we're not as in awe of figurehead monarchs as a young, dying subject, and you
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 09:11 AM
Dec 2013

perhaps, might be.

secondvariety

(1,245 posts)
85. The young man
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 06:29 PM
Dec 2013

got the better Queen. The choice between spending an afternoon with Queen Elizabeth or Helen Mirren would be a no brainer.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
70. sniff...
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 05:19 PM
Dec 2013

She knighted him.


:sniffle:
Geeee I'm getting kinda choked up here.

Long live Helen Mirren. And the Queen.




And apologies for the cultural disrespect I'm seeing.

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
71. So good of her
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 05:20 PM
Dec 2013

And, of course, she wasn't sticking it to the Queen. She was honoring her by trying to give the boy some happiness in her guise.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
77. i'm no fan of the monarchy, although I respect Elizabeth II as a person -
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 05:37 PM
Dec 2013

I think the Queen made the right call on this one. I wonder how many of these"dying child's last wish" are thought up by the parents.

Martin Eden

(12,870 posts)
134. The scene from that movie that really stuck with me ...
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 01:19 PM
Dec 2013

... was when she was out in the countryside of her estate. It was peaceful & quiet, then she saw a magnificent buck and said softly to herself "Oh ... beauty." The emotion of that moment for her was a priceless relief from the ugliness of everything else she was having to deal with.

Later, the buck was shot dead. For me (in the context of a semi-fictional movie) that was a greater tragedy than Princess Di's car crash.

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longship

(40,416 posts)
103. One of her early breakout roles: Morgana Le Fay
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 11:15 PM
Dec 2013

In John Boorman's quirky but wonderfully expansive Excalibur. For once, a retelling that pays at least some honor to the original legends and their mysticism.

Boorman's blurred definitions and exposition comes off brilliantly, IMHO.

There are stand out roles here. (Look for Patrick Stewart and Liam Neeson.) Merlin (Nichol Williamson) shamelessly steals every scene he's in. He pulls it off.

Nigel Terry plays a flawed Arthur. Helen Mirren plays his corrupt half sister, Morgana Le Fay.

One of my favorites. An absolute knockout soundtrack, with music from Wagner's Götterdamerung, Parsifal, and Tristan and Isolde with Orff's "O Fortuna" from Carmina Burana (my old cat's favorite music, may she rest in peace -- but she always heard it as "O for Tuna!&quot .

From 1981, a great flick.


 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
139. Oh yes, I LOVED that film. I actually have it here somewhere
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 02:06 PM
Dec 2013

amidst the clutter I call home, lol - thanks for the reminder, maybe I'll rewatch it tonight.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
120. "Monarch" on public welfare too busy to help dying kid
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 10:20 AM
Dec 2013

Any person with an ounce of human dignity would throw down the trappings of "royalty."

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
127. Dame Helen--compassion incarnate, love on two beautiful legs.
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 11:03 AM
Dec 2013

A lady truly worthy of her enoblement.

Mike Nelson

(9,959 posts)
130. Good, the dying boy is MUCH better off...
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 11:44 AM
Dec 2013

...the "Queen" is overrated. Better to spend his earthly time with more deserving people.

Silent3

(15,234 posts)
133. Great thing to do! To be fair, however, neither Mirren nor the Queen would ever...
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 01:13 PM
Dec 2013

...be capable, neither individually or together, of keeping up with all of the requests for this sort of thing.

radhika

(1,008 posts)
136. Remember when Dame Helen declined to meet with the Queen herself...
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 01:47 PM
Dec 2013

This caused a slight kerfuffle in the UK press years ago - right after Helen won her Oscar. Her priorities are clear.

(clip)

The Queen wanted to have a private dinner with Mirren. Even though the Queen’s social calendar is etched in stone one year in advance, the Queen had her officials ‘make room’ for a special dinner with the actress. The date for the private dinner was set for Tuesday, May 01st.

But Mirren sent her regrets. She was too busy to take time out for Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II. Her words: “The Palace very kindly extended an invitation to dinner last Tuesday, May 1. But, unfortunately I was filming in South Dakota and unable to change my schedule. I am very sad not to have been able to attend."

(end clip)

http://www.heaven4sure.com/MeandGodQuestions/LifeLessons/tabid/58/ctl/ArticleView/mid/387/articleId/328/Oscar-Actress-Mirren-Rejects-Queens-Invitation.aspx
 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
138. Nice one. I actually like both of them, though.
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 02:04 PM
Dec 2013

I'm sure the Queen gets many such requests, and they can't approve all of them, unfortunately.

They are both wonderful women in their own ways.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
146. Well no one ever accused the Royals of having any class.
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 02:43 AM
Dec 2013

And it still looks like they have none.

ryan_cats

(2,061 posts)
175. She is awesome
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 08:16 PM
Dec 2013

She is an awesome actress and apparently, an awesome human being too.
She's great in serious roles and was also great in the comedy Reds??

Nice to see her display so much class. To be honest, I'd rather see her than the queen.

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