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FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 05:57 PM Dec 2013

Quiznos Is In A Vicious Downward Spiral

Once booming sandwich chain Quiznos started running into trouble during the recession, and things have only gotten worse.

In 2012, the company restructured its debt in order to avoid bankruptcy and fund a turnaround, but the plan hasn't worked. Now it has missed a loan payment, is attempting to restructure its debt again, and has franchisees worried and angry, according to The Wall Street Journal.

In this time, Quiznos has gone from nearly 5,000 stores to around 2,100, and hundreds more US stores are underperforming and may close, according to the Journal.

Meanwhile similar chains have done just fine. Chicago-based Potbelly is rapidly expanding and recently had a very successful initial public offering. Jimmy John's is expanding too, and Subway continues to be a growing and highly profitable behemoth.




Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/quiznos-financial-difficulties-2013-12
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Quiznos Is In A Vicious Downward Spiral (Original Post) FarCenter Dec 2013 OP
Quizno's success prompted Subway to install toasting ovens KamaAina Dec 2013 #1
I like Quiznos more than Subway tammywammy Dec 2013 #2
I ate at Jimmy John's once. RC Dec 2013 #5
since there's a subway near work I eat there a one or twice a week. tammywammy Dec 2013 #8
Me too, I can't hardly stand Subway anymore. their doc03 Dec 2013 #33
I love Quiznos Springslips Dec 2013 #36
I love Quiznos too davidpdx Dec 2013 #38
The founder of Jimmy John's is a teabagger douche Viking12 Dec 2013 #42
Love Potbelly sandwiches and service. Lars39 Dec 2013 #3
I go to "deli up the street" JHB Dec 2013 #4
"Chain" and "deli" never seemed to go together FarCenter Dec 2013 #6
Plenty of better sub shops these days.. SomethingFishy Dec 2013 #7
Their prices are too expensive. TexasTowelie Dec 2013 #9
More expensive, sandwiches are smaller, and they have no real niche in the market davidn3600 Dec 2013 #10
All the Quiznos stores around here are closed. They came in at night doc03 Dec 2013 #11
In Gainesville, try Hogan's Heros. Get 'em hot pressed. Eleanors38 Dec 2013 #27
Another business that expanded too exponentially too quickly. Initech Dec 2013 #12
Quiznos is on my boycott list seveneyes Dec 2013 #13
Everyone knows stoners can't make sandwiches! Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #39
I haven't eaten at Quizno's .. sendero Dec 2013 #14
Do they still have a pepper bar? K.O. Stradivarius Dec 2013 #15
They got a pepper bar. 'NUFF SAID. pa28 Dec 2013 #16
The singing dead mice were the best thing about Quiznos Retrograde Dec 2013 #34
My neighbor owned two Quiznos at one time Major Nikon Dec 2013 #17
Most of the LA ones have closed. I don't think they could compete with Subway's cheap prices Liberal_in_LA Dec 2013 #24
Quiznos corporate screwed all of the franchisees, right into the ground. Ikonoklast Dec 2013 #31
Jimmy John's and Subway are overrated. Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #18
I found Quiznos to be overrated. CFLDem Dec 2013 #19
Waiting for a "low grade dogfood" comment from a DU food snob. n-t Logical Dec 2013 #20
*** Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #40
LOL, good one, the most quotable movie ever! n-t Logical Dec 2013 #41
For a chain sub place Quiznos is pretty good but I prefer Jersey Mike's or Lennys if I'm gonna get a Arcanetrance Dec 2013 #21
My exact findings as well Populist_Prole Dec 2013 #43
The only one I know about around here is tucked away almost invisible underpants Dec 2013 #22
Shop local! The Midway Rebel Dec 2013 #23
I still find it hard to believe they found it wise to use rats in their commercials. nt Incitatus Dec 2013 #25
We have one GP6971 Dec 2013 #26
What a shock. Classic made-to-make-it-on-Wall-Street-model goes tits up. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #28
Two Quiznos stores just abruptly closed here in Central Oregon, guess the OP explains that. nt DeschutesRiver Dec 2013 #29
Those roadkill commercials a few years back didn't help Blue Owl Dec 2013 #30
I prefer Quiznos over Subway and Jimmy John's xmas74 Dec 2013 #32
That's too bad. I try to support our local Quizno's as I've gotten to know the owner. stopbush Dec 2013 #35
they are too expensive and sandwiches are small and not that good JI7 Dec 2013 #37
 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
1. Quizno's success prompted Subway to install toasting ovens
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 06:00 PM
Dec 2013

that took away Quizno's advantage, and forced me to answer yet another annoying question every time I get Subway.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
2. I like Quiznos more than Subway
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 06:04 PM
Dec 2013

Unfortunately, there's not a Quiznos near where I work or live. There's a Jimmy John's that opened close to my house, but I haven't eaten there yet.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
5. I ate at Jimmy John's once.
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 06:08 PM
Dec 2013

I wasn't impressed. Not planing on going back.
I do like both Quiznos and Subway.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
8. since there's a subway near work I eat there a one or twice a week.
Reply to RC (Reply #5)
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 06:11 PM
Dec 2013

I would prefer a Quiznos though, they have a better chipotle sauce. Heh

doc03

(35,348 posts)
33. Me too, I can't hardly stand Subway anymore. their
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 01:04 AM
Dec 2013

bread is horrible. Their bread is like pumped full of air, it compresses down to nothing. I love
the smell of fresh baked bread but somehow Subway just smells bad it practically turns my stomach. They make a good chopped salad but if you order one their employees act like it is
a pain for them to make one.

Springslips

(533 posts)
36. I love Quiznos
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 02:09 AM
Dec 2013

I couldn't get enough of and still hunger for their chicken and bacon sub. But every Quiznos in town went down the toilet a few years ago. I knew a franchise owner and he told me why; it isn't just the recession that is to blame; it is corporate incompetence. They demanded higher food cost beyond anything a decent shop could make a margin on, and outlawed the use of third party vendors. He said their food cost were hugely higher than competitors. Once the downturn came, there was no room to adjust.

Chalk it down to another victim of the Peter Principle. Maybe someone with ability will buy the chain. I yearn for that flipping sub!

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
38. I love Quiznos too
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 07:02 AM
Dec 2013

There are a few here in South Korea, mainly in the business districts. I'm not sure if they are still there. They have Subway here too, but none around here.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
6. "Chain" and "deli" never seemed to go together
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 06:09 PM
Dec 2013

Nor do we have many national chain pizza outlets around here.

TexasTowelie

(112,252 posts)
9. Their prices are too expensive.
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 06:13 PM
Dec 2013

A similar sandwich from Subway is usually about a $1 less than at Quiznos. The prices at Potbelly and Jimmy John's are usually about $2 less than Quiznos and they offer fewer specialty sandwiches.

I've also noticed that the people working at Quiznos have a sketchier appearance. I contacted the manager of one of the franchises once because both of the men were wearing low riders and looking at their underwear turned off my appetite.

In my area the Quiznos shuts down earlier at night during the week, is closed at 5 p.m. on Saturday and is closed on Sunday.

doc03

(35,348 posts)
11. All the Quiznos stores around here are closed. They came in at night
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 06:25 PM
Dec 2013

emptied their stores and left a sign in the window they were closed, never even notified their employees. Quiznos was more expensive than Subway but well worth it to me. I can barely stand to eat Subway anymore, their bread is horrible, somehow they inject it with air to make it go further. Right now my favorite subs around here are Sub Express at Convenient and other carry-outs. When down in Florida I found great subs at Publix grocery stores.

Initech

(100,081 posts)
12. Another business that expanded too exponentially too quickly.
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 06:33 PM
Dec 2013

At one point there were six of them within a five block radius of where I work and now most if not all are gone. Used to love their Baja chicken sandwich too.

 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
13. Quiznos is on my boycott list
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 06:37 PM
Dec 2013

They fired someone I know for failing a urine test for MaryJane. As if that is any metric for hiring someone in that line of work.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
14. I haven't eaten at Quizno's ..
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 06:46 PM
Dec 2013

... in many many years because I don't like their sandwiches (especially the bread, you cannot make a good sandwich using fluffy cloud bread).

Potbelly's is great, Jimmie Johns just fine and Which Wich fine also. Will eat at Subway if I have to

I think for businesses like these it really comes down to the food. People think it is worth the price or they don't. If they don't, they don't return.

I don't expect Quizno's to survive.

Retrograde

(10,137 posts)
34. The singing dead mice were the best thing about Quiznos
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 01:53 AM
Dec 2013

although many people probably don't like having rodents associated with their food.

I had one of their sandwiches once, back when they first opened: a place I worked at the time brought lunch in for everyone once a week and it was that week's offing. It was OK, but not good enough to seek out.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
17. My neighbor owned two Quiznos at one time
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 07:26 PM
Dec 2013

His stores were of those 3,000 or so that tanked. He said Quiznos basically made it impossible for him to make a profit.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
31. Quiznos corporate screwed all of the franchisees, right into the ground.
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 12:56 AM
Dec 2013

Instead of wanting to run things as an ongoing enterprise, they chose to rob the very people that were making them money.


Idiots.

 

Vashta Nerada

(3,922 posts)
18. Jimmy John's and Subway are overrated.
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 07:28 PM
Dec 2013

I liked Quiznos.

For all my deli sandwich needs, I go to Erbert & Gerbert's.

Arcanetrance

(2,670 posts)
21. For a chain sub place Quiznos is pretty good but I prefer Jersey Mike's or Lennys if I'm gonna get a
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 08:02 PM
Dec 2013

sub from a chain

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
43. My exact findings as well
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 01:47 PM
Dec 2013

JM's or Lenny's is the closest I've had to a "mom & pop" NY deli sandwich I've ever had, quality-wise.

underpants

(182,829 posts)
22. The only one I know about around here is tucked away almost invisible
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 08:06 PM
Dec 2013

and the staff appear to be all family - I was not confident of the product I got there the one time I went

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
28. What a shock. Classic made-to-make-it-on-Wall-Street-model goes tits up.
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 11:53 PM
Dec 2013

It's really too bad because they made better sandwiches, but they decided to go for the big Wall Street executive payout at the franchisees' expense, instead.

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
32. I prefer Quiznos over Subway and Jimmy John's
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 12:58 AM
Dec 2013

but my favorite is Planet Sub. Smallish chain, tries to buy local organic produce, products from scratch, etc. Always a cool environment at the local shop.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
35. That's too bad. I try to support our local Quizno's as I've gotten to know the owner.
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 02:02 AM
Dec 2013

It's a family business.

It's never busy, and I'm afraid that in these parts it's because Mohammed - the owner - doesn't fit in with the mostly white local crowd.

I hope he doesn't get screwed.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
37. they are too expensive and sandwiches are small and not that good
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 02:42 AM
Dec 2013

they aren't bad but they better be REALLY REALLY good if you are going to pay a lot for little.

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