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By Justin Doom - Dec 6, 2013
The U.S. Interior Department loosened restrictions designed to reduce the threat from wind farms that annually kill dozens of federally protected eagles.
Thats a small figure compared to the hundreds of millions of birds killed every year by cats, cars and mobile-phone towers. Wind farms killed about 573,000 birds in the U.S. last year, according to the Wildlife Society.
In 2002, the U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service estimated that communication towers kill 4 million to 5 million per year, cars kill roughly 60 million, cats kill hundreds of millions, Amy Grace, a wind industry analyst for Bloomberg New Energy Finance, said today in by e-mail.
Almost 1 billion are killed annually from flying into windows, and no one is protesting about bird deaths outside your new home, she said.
David Ringer, a spokesman for the National Audubon Society, said 67 federally protected bald and golden eagles have been killed by turbines in the U.S. since 2008, a figure that excludes deaths in Californias Altamont Pass area, where as many as 60 to 75 eagles are killed every year.
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-12-06/u-s-eases-turbine-bird-death-rule-as-cats-kill-millions.html
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Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)Feral domestic cats are not native to N. Am. and ground and near ground nesting birds aren't adapted to deal with the depredation that high densities of feral cats cause.
Bird lovers haven't much good to say about feral cat populations.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)that is about the most specious claim imaginable, unless they are attempting to conflate it with cats killing birds, which they do. Attaching it to our national symbol like cats are killing bald eagles? Stupidity that deserves to be mocked.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)I have no love for feral domestic cats that are, by and large recreational dicky-bird killers.
Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)so I guess we should get rid of all our windows. Break that news to folks in Minnesota this time of year.
JVS
(61,935 posts)Upton
(9,709 posts)there's nothing natural about them..
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)So not so much to do with "nature"
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Or at least his would-be successor Joe Lhota does. Remember the subway kittens?
Lhota, head of the MTA, said he would have kept the trains running and squashed 'em?
Aerows
(39,961 posts)if your cat can kill a bald eagle, this is probably a sign that your cat can take over the government and defy laws, anyway.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Of course, where eagles eat fish, cats aren't much of a problem for them.
But, warblers and buntings count just as much as eagles do.
SidDithers
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ProdigalJunkMail
(12,017 posts)turbine cancer voltage being effective as far as a mile from the windmill... crazy...
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tammywammy
(26,582 posts)dionysus
(26,467 posts)zappaman
(20,606 posts)This is no laughing matter, Sid.
Beringia
(4,316 posts)Windmills are in the wide open, wild areas, where animals can usually find their niche. Cats kill birds near human enclaves.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)I have 17 acres set aside to protect non-game species 50 miles from Milwaukee, 37 miles from Madison. At 2.4 humans per square mile this is about as far from human enclaves as you can get in southern WI.
BUT!!! There is a US HWY and a County Rd which facilitate cat owners to drive by and let loose their no longer loved house cat.
Feral cats are a significant problem for me. They devastate ground and near-ground nesting bird populations. The mortality rate of 'pet cats' is very high. Illness and road kills lead the list, but falling to birds of prey for the starving and sick is pretty high. I take the best, maybe 6 per year, to the local shelter in hopes of saving them..
A small but significant number of cat owners are not responsible about ownership. The animals that they release into the environment are NOT an authentic part of the N. Am. fauna.
Beringia
(4,316 posts)I actually lived in Madison for about 7 years and was there when the DNR had a meeting about making it legal to shoot feral cats. I went to the meeting where it was overflowing with people who did not want hunters shooting cats. Then this meeting got me started on issues of stopping cruelty to wild animals.
I did not know so many people abandoned their cats on county roads. Very sad for the cats.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)So the cats apparently are making progress in stifling their instincts.
NickB79
(19,253 posts)Some say hundreds of millions, others say billions.
Oddly enough, you never read any studies claiming cats kill almost no birds.
Why do you think that is? With so many studies, is it possible that cats kill anywhere from a few hundred million to a billion+ birds per year, and YOU'RE the one spouting BS when you dismiss the damage?
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)That is the problem...some feather-philes who think nature should be curtailed to their particular whims.
NickB79
(19,253 posts)Is hysteria to you, huh?
Thank god you're not responsible for ensuring the survival of native flora and fauna in this country.
Nature, curtailed? Domesticated cats are no more part of nature in the US than feral hogs or kudzu vines. WTF is being curtailed?
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)LisaLynne
(14,554 posts)disingenuous. Loss of habitat, pollution from dirty energy sources, etc. kill birds, too, but no, let's go after the turbines.
surrealAmerican
(11,362 posts)The article seems to think there's some connection, but we are not even talking about the same kinds of birds.
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spin
(17,493 posts)It is far more likely that the eagle will kill a house cat. If you do a web search you will find reports of hawks killing domestic cats as well as a few stories of house cats killing a hawk.
However I will agree that cats do a significant amount of damage to the native bird population in our nation.
Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)I suggest you take your outrage to the companies that maufacture pesticides and people who use them. That is where the biggest problem lies.
Rachel Carson predicted this in the 'Silent Spring.' At the time she got criticized for it. Now it's a classic.
Carson knew a lot about birds and bird populations. I never heard about her ranting about cats. There were plenty of feral cats around then too. She was very outspoken and if she thought that Garfield was heading an empire of feline marauders who were endangering birds, she would have said so.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)Researchers Are Reporting A Soaring Number Of East Coast Bald Eagles In Fall Migration
The bald eagle probably represents the most successful recovery of an endangered species in North America, if not the entire world.
Down to just 417 breeding pairs in the Lower 48 states by 1963 due to the effects of a widely-used pesticide on their ability to reproduce, Americas national bird has now rebounded so throughly that it was removed from the federal list of endangered species in 2007. The U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service reports that there are now 10,000 breeding pairs of bald eagles in the Lower 48.
Further evidence of the eagles dramatic recovery was reported recently by researchers at Pennsylvanias Hawk Mountain Sanctuary, which sits along a well-traveled East Coast flyway for migratory birds, and where a count of eagles and other raptors and migrating birds is conducted every autumn. The researchers announced that they had spotted 407 eagles by the close of the fall count, a number that shattered the previous record of 245 birds set just two years ago.
Although the researchers cautioned that this years impressive census may be owed at least partially to favorable weather conditions for migrating birds as well as for the people who count them rather than to a sudden population explosion among eagles, there is little doubt that, year after year, the once-endangered raptors continue to enjoy highly successful breeding seasons.
continued: http://www.allaboutwildlife.com/american-wildlife/bald-eagle-numbers-on-the-rise/5244
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Proof that nature will rally, if we stop choking it.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)to make them safer for eagles, and in return the USG would agree not to prosecute/fine them for the ones that did get killed.