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RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 12:05 AM Dec 2013

Republicans say, "We OWN the world." Democrats say, "We ARE the world."

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The right wing worldview is one that centers on SELFISH OWNERSHIP. They see the world in a vacuum with the attitude that "You get exactly what you deserve and work for in life". Their existence centers on money and materialism. To them it is, "I've got mine. Go get yours, and shut up." They worship an unfettered free market, see the rich as deserving masters of industry to emulate and celebrate, and vast income disparity? "Ah well," they say, "That's the market. Let the market dictate. No need for minimum wages or limits on CEO pay or bonuses." Everything to them is based on a market calculus of winners, losers, and zero-sum games. Want to improve education? Install private schools, competition, make teachers compete for "merit pay," base everything on standardized test scores, fire people left and right, and may the "best" school win. Want to improve the economy? Turn the reigns and our tax dollars over to the "professionals," the corporate rich who "run this country, and allow them to compete in the market. That'll take care of everything. The market will sort it out. And for goodness sake, don't regulate the all mighty market." The poor? "Ah well, they deserve it. They are lazy and irresponsible. Simple as that." Healthcare? "It is not a right. The market will take care of it. Private insurance and health savings accounts are the way to go. If millions of people don't have it, ah well, they are lazy and undeserving." Damaging the planet? "Ah well, the plant is an economic resource. The market will dictate whatever happens to the planet." Even though they like THEIR government programs and spending, they mainly see government as "bad" and as a way to help the rich and their corporations since they think the rich will somehow take care of the rest who "work hard". Their preference would be a corporate plutocracy who sees people as a labor resource and don't even think about something as evil as labor unions. Exporting jobs? "Ah well, that's the market. Companies ned to compete." --- I know this is how they think because their leaders and right wing media spokespeople say it, their behavior bears it out constantly, and their rank and filers talk in these terms all the time.


Our side is VERY different. We see ourselves as connected to one another, not isolated like the R's do, and we believe "My success depends on your success and we ALL need to succeed." We believe we ARE the world, a collective of mutually bound citizens who are in it TOGETHER. We believe in individual responsibility, but collective responsibility too. We see how poverty begets poverty, and we have a moral aversion to vast income disparity which we knowisn't inevitable. We see the market as a means of opportunity, personal creativity, and how we create wealth, but we also see the need for rules to the game so that the market is working well for everyone, not just a privileged few. We have a powerful social conscious. We KNOW life doesn't just happen in a vacuum and that there are both compelling individual and social causes of such problems as poverty, crime, addiction, illiteracy, etc. and we believe we need to respond to these problems TOGETHER. We believe that while government can't and shouldn't do all things, it can and SHOULD do some things. Education needs to address the ENTIRE student, and while we need good teachers and programs, we believe in a strong PUBLIC education and that education is much more than awarding "merit pay" and having kids pass standardized tests. We see healthcare as a right of citizenship and are disgusted by the notion of people going bankrupt when they get sick. We believe in very fair taxation, public investments in education, renewable energy, and infrastructure, and we see the way to broad prosperity as investing in our people, their education, science and the industries of the future, and a vision of PROGRESSIVE capitalism where businesses see that taking care of workers, including allowing them to organize for decent pay and conditions, and taking care of the planet is GOOD for business. We know that trickle down economics does not work and has never worked. We are the PROGRESSIVES and the POPULISTS which means just that: SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC PROGRESS FOR THE PEOPLE.

The arc of history has ALWAYS bent in our direction, and it is now. We are on the right side of history. We need to embrace who we are, articulate it well and REPEATEDLY, and fight for what we believe in with the right kinds of policies. The MAJORITY of the nation is with us, especially the emerging generations, and the other side is BANKRUPT on the FUTURE and BANKRUPT on TODAY. They have ZERO ideas aside from being "all about ME and my rich friends and corporations and to hell with everyone else". They are bankrupt on both economic and SOCIAL issues. All they want to do is go backwards. We are the party of FORWARD. Now let's get out there and make FORWARD happen.

This is the difference. Two very different worldviews.

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Republicans say, "We OWN the world." Democrats say, "We ARE the world." (Original Post) RBInMaine Dec 2013 OP
Welcome to FDR Democrat America! MannyGoldstein Dec 2013 #1
Any national party MUST have a somewhat broad tent, but the main principles are universal. RBInMaine Dec 2013 #3
Warren endorsed Hillary? MannyGoldstein Dec 2013 #5
She signed a letter essentially endorsing her and has said she doesn't plan to run. RBInMaine Dec 2013 #11
"essentially" endorsing her. Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #13
She signed the letter and has said she has no intent to run. Google it. RBInMaine Dec 2013 #14
I did. Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #16
So Warren signed a secret letter of encouragement MannyGoldstein Dec 2013 #17
I hope you are correct. merrily Dec 2013 #8
D for Drive!!! R for Reverse. Tigress DEM Dec 2013 #2
Yup! Jennifer Granholm, DNC Convention 2012! longship Dec 2013 #4
Oh Gawd I love that woman! sheshe2 Dec 2013 #7
Yup, that woman is something else. RBInMaine Dec 2013 #15
K & R Iliyah Dec 2013 #6
What a concise, blunt, and hard hitting post Populist_Prole Dec 2013 #9
we borrow the earth from our children leftyohiolib Dec 2013 #10
Great way to say it. RBInMaine Dec 2013 #12
 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
3. Any national party MUST have a somewhat broad tent, but the main principles are universal.
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 12:23 AM
Dec 2013

If we demonize centrists, that is not a good plan. I'm talking broad principles, not sheer purity.

True centrists are NOT EVEN CLOSE to today's RADICAL REPUKES who are WAY off the right wing rails. I would rather have someone like Crist in FL as a Dem than a RePUKE.

Bill and Hillary are HATED by the right wing and have been attacked by them relentlessly for years. And while their hands are not entirely clean, they are FAR more progressive than today's ReSCUMlicans.

Warren has endorsed Hillary and won't run in 2016 so forget that. Bernie Sanders can not win. We can't have a progressive split. Hillary is the best person who can WIN. Not ideal, but some practicality MUST prevail. If you don't WIN elections, you don't have POWER, and political POWER is the ONLY goal in an election. It is THE objective.

Our PRINCIPLES are better. We do need to articulate them well. Our message about the R's is "THEY ARE BANKRUPT OF IDEAS, BANKRUPT ON THE ISSUES, AND MORALLY BANKRUPT. They are the party of SHUTDOWN and they have the WORST House of Reps record because of DOING NOTHING in HISTORY." We have a MOUNTAIN OF AMMUNITION for 2014. We just have to FRAME it and USE it.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
5. Warren endorsed Hillary?
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 01:06 AM
Dec 2013

Can you provide a link to the endorsement.

Hillary has publicly stated that she won't run in 2016. Do you respect her decision?

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
11. She signed a letter essentially endorsing her and has said she doesn't plan to run.
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 06:59 AM
Dec 2013

Simply google it.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
13. "essentially" endorsing her.
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 07:19 AM
Dec 2013

No, she allegedly signed a "secret" letter encouraging her to run. Which is not the same thing as an "endorsement".

There will be plenty of time to claim a Warren endorsement of Hillary if and when HILLARY actually says she "plans to run" (because, to the best of my knowledge, she hasn't, either, yet) if and when Warren actually offers such a thing.

In the meantime, your claim is premature on all counts.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
17. So Warren signed a secret letter of encouragement
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 08:54 AM
Dec 2013

that some guy said someone told him he saw.

OK.

But you didn't address the issue of Hillary saying, multiple times, that she's not running in 2016? Don't you respect her decision?

longship

(40,416 posts)
4. Yup! Jennifer Granholm, DNC Convention 2012!
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 12:30 AM
Dec 2013

Here it is, a golden moment!



If you've never seen this, click through. She brings the rafters down.

And D is indeed for drive forward, R is for reverse.
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