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rrneck

(17,671 posts)
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 12:58 PM Dec 2013

Inside the Box: People don’t actually like creativity.

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2013/12/creativity_is_rejected_teachers_and_bosses_don_t_value_out_of_the_box_thinking.html

In the United States we are raised to appreciate the accomplishments of inventors and thinkers—creative people whose ideas have transformed our world. We celebrate the famously imaginative, the greatest artists and innovators from Van Gogh to Steve Jobs. Viewing the world creatively is supposed to be an asset, even a virtue. Online job boards burst with ads recruiting “idea people” and “out of the box” thinkers. We are taught that our own creativity will be celebrated as well, and that if we have good ideas, we will succeed.
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Unfortunately, the place where our first creative ideas go to die is the place that should be most open to them—school. Studies show that teachers overwhelmingly discriminate against creative students, favoring their satisfier classmates who more readily follow directions and do what they’re told.

Even if children are lucky enough to have a teacher receptive to their ideas, standardized testing and other programs like No Child Left Behind and Race to the Top (a program whose very designation is opposed to nonlinear creative thinking) make sure children’s minds are not on the “wrong” path, even though adults’ accomplishments are linked far more strongly to their creativity than their IQ. It’s ironic that even as children are taught the accomplishments of the world’s most innovative minds, their own creativity is being squelched.

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Inside the Box: People don’t actually like creativity. (Original Post) rrneck Dec 2013 OP
Though the current gutting of the education system is a suicidal mistake, the American Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #1
wow, thanks for posting this NJCher Dec 2013 #2
Interesting perspective; I've always thought the "speed and efficiency" part of school bhikkhu Dec 2013 #3
conformity is a killer. nt xchrom Dec 2013 #4
Ignorance killed the cat. Curiousity was framed. Electric Monk Dec 2013 #5
 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
1. Though the current gutting of the education system is a suicidal mistake, the American
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 01:07 PM
Dec 2013

education system has primarily taught conformity and obedience above all for many generations.

There are very real and critical problems in our education systems, even though turning it over to profit-seeking parasites is no answer at all.

NJCher

(35,685 posts)
2. wow, thanks for posting this
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 02:19 PM
Dec 2013

I am going to use this in my work. I am a former advertising creative person turned college professor.

I rarely find creativity in my students. When I do find it, I feel like doing the happy dance. It is so rare that I can go for years without seeing a creative student.

My techniques are creative and classes don't like it. They want the same-old same-old so they know what to expect. All they can do is by rote. Read the book, answer the questions.

Don't ask them to demonstrate a technique or show they can do something as a result of this learning. They can't.

For years I would get these comments on my teaching evals that said they thought the course was disorganized. When I approached my department head for help, he looked at my organization practices and found nothing amiss.

We eventually figured out that what the students were saying was they did not know what to expect at each class (the way the class was "organized&quot . So now I give them the same-old same-old. They eat it up. Everybody's happy (except me--that I can't use my creative ideas).

Yep, it's sad. I wonder what we're going to do for creative people in the future. Thank dog for immigrants.

And as for me, I'm trying to find teaching opportunities with the gifted. That is one place where creativity is valued.


Cher

bhikkhu

(10,718 posts)
3. Interesting perspective; I've always thought the "speed and efficiency" part of school
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 02:35 PM
Dec 2013

especially in math, sucked all the enjoyment and creativity out of it. In working toward my degree online a few years back I re-took a more difficult version of a math class I'd barely passed in school. I found that it was really interesting to be able to research and play with problems outside of a strict time schedule and without supervision. If a type of problem was hard to "get", now you can google up and survey different explanations and techniques from teachers and universities all over the world.

The "right way" to solve a problem is usually far from the only way, and being able to range around the different perspectives in a leisurely manner, being able to turn a problem over upside-down and backwards over a period of days, is a great way to really understand things. Of course, that's not how anything is really taught, and if you don't use the quickest-path solution (which is often a memorized shortcut that hides the real mechanics of the problem) you probably fail any timed test. To some extent, school itself is a timed test, designed to pack in the maximum volume of learning in the minimum time.

I'm encouraged that the Common Core testing is bending things back to word problems, which do put more emphasis on actually understanding problems and being able to communicate real solutions. What I tell my kids when they complain about how its hard is that nobody gets anywhere without work, talent or genius included. The best strategy is to find a way to make the work enjoyable, and then practice as much as you can get away with.

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