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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA long time ago, there was this girl...
She and I were in our early twenties, and it was a happy time for me, as I went through all 12 grades without a girlfriend, and here we were parked in a car at night at a city park, nobody was around to bother us, and we were making out the way that young lovers are often inclined to do.
Janie (not her real name) paused our smooching a couple of times to catch her breath, but she seemed eager to return to the nookie session. Her lips were soft, her breath and skin so warm and inviting, and I loved her occasional sighs of pleasure.
As my lips found her neck, she clutched the back of my head. My right hand traced its way down to her stomach, which was now exposed just a little bit, and started fondling her skin gently. Her hand seemed to push down on my head, and I was now kissing her exposed tummy. Not only was her stomach open to exploration, but also her breasts, and...and...
And as I looked up, I learned that Janie had somehow managed to fall asleep in the middle of our makeout session. She was totally lost in slumber.
What could I do? I certainly couldn't hold it against her. All of us in our circle of friends lived busy lives either working or going to college or whatever. And me, I had recently fallen asleep on the telephone while talking with a friend of mine. These things happen.
So I gazed upon Janie's face as she slept and kept her in my arms. No fondling, no groping, no nothin'.
And when she woke up, Janie apologized for falling asleep. To which I responded, "It's okay. I'll take you home."
Janie and I went our separate ways later on down the line. Looking back, I still had some growing up to do of my own, and she probably wouldn't have been an ideal life match for me anyway. But I wish her well wherever she is today.
But when we were parked in my car that night, the last thing - the very last thing on my mind - was to take advantage of her in any way that would cause her pain and distress. I will never be accused of rape. I've seen what it can do to men and women alike, and I'll have no tolerance for it.
So that's my story.
loli phabay
(5,580 posts)I am.pretty sure there would be a selfie getting taken and posted.
derby378
(30,252 posts)If my wife or girlfriend wanted to share a picture of us kissing, we could talk about that. But otherwise, I generally consider that to be our private time. In other words, you kids better get off my lawn.
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)Thanks for that.
I have ran into both gentlemen and pigs. Mostly gentlemen. And I appreciate that.
derby378
(30,252 posts)There are guys out there who act all charming and smooth until they wind up in a relationship, and then they get abusive and monstrous.
But if you consider me a gentleman, I'll take the compliment.
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)Think of what it is supposed to mean. You are one.
derby378
(30,252 posts)BainsBane
(53,035 posts)The percentage of rapists in the population is far higher.
99% of people who rape are men, 60% are Caucasian. (7)
Between 62% (4) and 84% (1) of survivors knew their attacker.
8% of men admit committing acts that meet the legal definition of rape or attempted rape. Of these men who committed rape, 84% said that what they did was definitely not rape. (1)
More than one in five men report "becoming so sexually aroused that they could not stop themselves from having sex, even though the woman did not consent." (8)
35% of men report at least some degree of likelihood of raping if they could be assured they wouldn't be caught or punished. (9)
One out of every 500 college students is infected with HIV, the virus that causes AIDS. (10)
First-year students in college tend to believe more rape myths than seniors. (11)
Sexual assault offenders were substantially more likely than any other category of violent criminal to report experiencing physical or sexual abuse as children. (7)
In one study, 98% of men who raped boys reported that they were heterosexual. (12)
http://www.oneinfourusa.org/statistics.php
loli phabay
(5,580 posts)BainsBane
(53,035 posts)Rather than idle speculation. That it bothers you to be presented with them is hardly surprising.
loli phabay
(5,580 posts)BainsBane
(53,035 posts)Rape is suitable only as a joke or a subject of arousal for men through porn. God forbid anyone suggest you consider facts that prove your bullshit to be totally false. Maintaining that level of willful ignorance is a full-time job. Meanwhile, cue to thread in a certain safe haven insisting that "sex" with a drunk "girl" really isn't rape.
NBachers
(17,120 posts)irisblue
(32,980 posts)as a woman who had most of a bottle of wine in winter 1976 at a history department party....thank you. My memory is fuzzy, I do not have a bad memory of that day....and I believe that womans' memory would have been a horror. blessings on you for being an honorable man, may your tribe flourish, may the dishonorable wither. may it be so.
liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)I know this for a fact and am and glad you reminded me of this.
Ernesto
(5,077 posts)This post makes me feel good about myself.
TxDemChem
(1,918 posts)You are rare and priceless.
OffWithTheirHeads
(10,337 posts)TxDemChem
(1,918 posts)Last night I thought of all the men I know personally after my post and realized there are more good men out there than I have credit for. Then it hit me, in general, people are good and have well-meaning intentions. You helped bring back my faith in humanity.
Thank you for reminding me of what I lost.
malaise
(269,054 posts)In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)Thank you for sharing it.
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)hfojvt
(37,573 posts)I had a lady to love ..."
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)The men who would take advantage of a woman who is sleeping and/or otherwise indisposed are still dividing females into "Good girls" and "Bad Girls". In their mind, no "Good Girl" would allow herself to be in a vulnerable position, therefore any woman who is vulnerable is a "bad Girl" and therefore anything done to/with such Bad Girl is OK.
Pity the "Good Girl" a sleaze like this chooses to marry - she deals with him for years!