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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Tue Dec 10, 2013, 12:14 PM Dec 2013

Republican nightmare begins: Obamacare is 'a godsend' for people getting coverage

Republican nightmare begins: Obamacare is 'a godsend' for people getting coverage

by Joan McCarter

The health care exchanges—federal and state—are now functioning and not sucking up all the oxygen around the implementation of Obamacare. Finally, the "good news" news stories are finally being told, like this one in The New York Times.

Since his chronic leukemia was diagnosed in 2010, Ray Acosta has paid dearly for health insurance: more than $800 a month in premiums, plus steep co-payments for the drug that helps keep him alive.

Mr. Acosta, 57, owns a small moving company in Sierra Vista, Ariz., which he said had barely made it through the recession. He was thinking about dropping his coverage, but the insurance company beat him to it, informing him recently that it would cancel his policy at year’s end.

He sought advice from an insurance agent who had used his moving company. She connected him with an application counselor at a community health center, who found — to Mr. Acosta’s astonishment — that he qualified for Medicaid under the new health care law, the Affordable Care Act, which gives states the option of expanding the program to include more low-income adults.

“I’m kind of in a disbelieving fog,” Mr. Acosta said last week, two days after completing an application. “I’m just hoping, keeping my fingers crossed, that this might really help me out.” <...> “After being gouged all these years, trying to make ends meet, to all of the sudden get this?” he said. “I’m really blown away.” <...>

That's the kind of story that makes Republicans quake in their shoes. For more of them, go below the fold. .

The good news keeps coming.

Claire He grew up worrying about her parents’ health. Her mother, who is a waitress, and her father, who is a cook, work long days at a Chinese restaurant in Battle Creek, Mich., where they settled after immigrating from China 14 years ago. Health insurance has always been a luxury they could not afford. <...>

This Thanksgiving, she and her family sat down to explore their options in the new insurance marketplace. After about 45 minutes online, they selected a midlevel, or silver, plan that would cost the family about $30 a month, after tax-credit subsidies based on income.

“We were shocked,” Ms. He said. “I actually called a few places to verify that.” <...>

At 61 years old, Bruce Kleinschmidt, a lawyer who is mostly retired, has no illusions about whether he needs health insurance. He has a chronic sinus condition that has required three operations, including one last year, and has had a few serious accidents over the years, including a fall that required back surgery. Doctors also recently diagnosed a heart condition. <...>

“I have been declined before,” he said.

The coverage available through the state high-risk pools for people like him, Mr. Kleinschmidt said, typically have “extraordinarily high premiums with really high deductibles.” On the state’s new online exchange, he was able to select a plan from a well-known insurer that came with a deductible of only $1,000.

“It’s a godsend,” he said. <...>

Tasha Huebner, 45, had long wanted to leave Chicago, but one of the biggest roadblocks was the fear of losing her health insurance. Ms. Huebner learned that she had breast cancer five years ago and, given her costly medical history, knew the chances of a new insurer accepting her were slim.

So when she finally sold her house and moved to Silverton, Ore., this year, she did so knowing that the new health care law would soon make it much easier for people like her to get coverage. Under the law, insurers cannot turn away people with existing medical conditions, nor charge them more for coverage. <...>

So she turned to the new exchange after it opened on Oct. 1. Oregon’s online marketplace has not worked properly, but Ms. Huebner figured out that a midlevel plan would cost her about $300 a month — within her budget. If she qualifies for subsidies — which is uncertain, given her unpredictable income —her bill may drop to about $150, she said. She applied through the mail and is awaiting approval.

Ms. Huebner said she is in good health and is training for two half-marathons. But she needs annual mammograms and checkups with an oncologist, and she lives with the knowledge that her cancer could return.

“I’m young,” she said. “The chances are that it will come back.”

For that reason, she said, being able to afford health insurance is “just a huge, huge relief.”

That's precisely what Republicans have been fighting against so desperately for the past four years; people's lives being made fundamentally better. People realizing that government can be a direct force for good in their personal lives. It's every Republican's nightmare, and it's going to play out in every state until next November.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/12/09/1256519/-Republican-nightmare-begins-Obamacare-is-a-godsend-for-people-getting-coverage






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Republican nightmare begins: Obamacare is 'a godsend' for people getting coverage (Original Post) ProSense Dec 2013 OP
Some recent memes I'm seeing from the RW: NYC_SKP Dec 2013 #1
Very true: The lowball policies only work for the very young and very healthy. lindysalsagal Dec 2013 #20
Gawd save America from having to endure more pointless Republicon whinery Berlum Dec 2013 #2
Care for a little white whine? Consult the GOP! calimary Dec 2013 #14
. Rex Dec 2013 #3
Ooooh! The Republicans haz a nightmare. sheshe2 Dec 2013 #4
Will these successes convince these people to start voting for Democrats? LonePirate Dec 2013 #5
Some will but we all know that once the RW realizes they cant stop it... Lobo27 Dec 2013 #10
Right! They will claim they are defending it from the Democrats that want to destroy it! Vietnameravet Dec 2013 #21
Some will ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2013 #12
I've been thinking for a while that the Republicans are going to regret for decades to come... DesertDiamond Dec 2013 #6
Obamacare anasv Dec 2013 #8
Welcome to DU, anasv! calimary Dec 2013 #13
This was always going to happen malaise Dec 2013 #7
This must be killing some people at Fox News.... yuiyoshida Dec 2013 #9
But, shhh ... check your in-box ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2013 #11
this law is going to be a tremendous boost for the economy shireen Dec 2013 #15
How many times has the Republican nightmare begun now? nxylas Dec 2013 #16
Yay!!! murielm99 Dec 2013 #17
ditto. BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2013 #19
repuglicans opposed social security rafeh1 Dec 2013 #18
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
1. Some recent memes I'm seeing from the RW:
Tue Dec 10, 2013, 12:19 PM
Dec 2013

One article yesterday opined, "The should rename it the 'just barely more affordable care act'.", admitting that it's good but that damned Obama couldn't make it great.

The other meme is that folks with bronze ACA plans, especially, are experiencing sticker shock at their deductibles and maximum out of pocket figures.

Well, what I've seen are still better than what would have been available in the market, even a person could even GET a policy.

And most who chose a bronze plan are either going to qualify for subsidies or they are choosing low monthly premiums over higher premiums with lower co-pays, etc.

Finally, many complainers are comparing the cost of a plan to having no plan at all. That complaint falls on deaf ears.

lindysalsagal

(20,715 posts)
20. Very true: The lowball policies only work for the very young and very healthy.
Tue Dec 10, 2013, 10:51 PM
Dec 2013

If you add $30-$40/month to the premium, the deductable goes from $3000, to $1500, to $1000. So for a $300 investment, you save thousands.

Basically, those low-ball plans are only catastrophe policies.

LonePirate

(13,428 posts)
5. Will these successes convince these people to start voting for Democrats?
Tue Dec 10, 2013, 01:12 PM
Dec 2013

We may be winning moral victories by fundamentally improving these people's lives; but will they show up at the polls in future elections and vote for Democrats? There are far too many people in this country who criticize the government while reaping its benefits and voting for the party that advocates cutting those benefits.

Lobo27

(753 posts)
10. Some will but we all know that once the RW realizes they cant stop it...
Tue Dec 10, 2013, 02:04 PM
Dec 2013

They will take credit for it, that it was a RW plan all along etc... Thats how it always works.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
12. Some will ...
Tue Dec 10, 2013, 02:27 PM
Dec 2013

and others will see they have been lied to will NOT vote republican ... which is just as helpful, especially if they are in gerrymandered republican districts.

DesertDiamond

(1,616 posts)
6. I've been thinking for a while that the Republicans are going to regret for decades to come...
Tue Dec 10, 2013, 01:46 PM
Dec 2013

that they nicknamed it "Obamacare." Now his name will live on a someone who did something great for the people. Oh no!

 

anasv

(225 posts)
8. Obamacare
Tue Dec 10, 2013, 02:03 PM
Dec 2013

Yes, that's why I've been calling it Obamacare since almost the beginning.

Whether this will translate into votes, I don't know. Half the people in this country don't seem to have a clue about how government even works.

calimary

(81,389 posts)
13. Welcome to DU, anasv!
Tue Dec 10, 2013, 02:46 PM
Dec 2013

Glad you're here! Keep 'em ignorant and they'll keep swallowing the GOP sloganeering and taking it for truth. At least some of us know better. And that means it's up to us to become educators.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
11. But, shhh ... check your in-box ...
Tue Dec 10, 2013, 02:23 PM
Dec 2013

You must have missed the e-mail ... We're supposed to ignore this and continue bashing the ACA because WE WANT SINGLE PAYER!

Besides, some "still don't see the rational for offering GOP policies ... How is (the ACA) a baby-step (towards single-payer)? It's a step backwards ... The ACA institutionalizes the problem Corporate insurance. (except in Vermont, or any other jurisdiction that has the guts to de-institutionalize corporate insurance by offering a single-payer/public option)"

shireen

(8,333 posts)
15. this law is going to be a tremendous boost for the economy
Tue Dec 10, 2013, 02:58 PM
Dec 2013

Many people are freed from the shackles of health insurance.

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
16. How many times has the Republican nightmare begun now?
Tue Dec 10, 2013, 03:16 PM
Dec 2013

And yet the "mainstream" media is still full of stories about the botched Obamacare rollout and how it hurts Democrats. I fear the "Obamacare disaster" has the potential to become a zombie lie that persists in the public consciousness long after it has ceased to have any basis in reality.

rafeh1

(385 posts)
18. repuglicans opposed social security
Tue Dec 10, 2013, 06:19 PM
Dec 2013

repuglicans opposed social security.. Said Pres FDR was a socialist. Later on they claimed to be protectors of social security in front of old ARP white folks who vote republican..

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