Larry Klayman, the lawyer behind NSA lawsuit, said Jews are behind gay marriage

[Cali_Democrat]

Klayman: Jews Behind Gay Marriage, IRS Scandal

Larry Klayman is very upset that Jewish-Americans aren’t standing up to oppose “the Muslim-in-Chief,” and are instead “at the forefront of a number of scandals.” He said Jews are behind “the promotion of anti-family institutions like gay marriage” and working as President Obama’s “leftist Jewish government comrades and partners in crime.” After calling Obama “a Muslim through and through,” Klayman goes on to write that the IRS scandal was perpetrated by “felonious liberal Jews” who should be in prison:

Read more: http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/klayman-jews-behind-gay-marriage-irs-scandal

[WillyT]

1. Ironic, No ???

Klayman was born to Jewish parents, and identifies himself as "both a Jew and a Christian"

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Klayman

[Cali_Democrat]

2. I've got loads of crap on this Klayman guy and I'm going to post much of it over the next few days

Stay tuned!

[WillyT]

28. Have At It... Doesn't Change The Numbers On The Scoreboard...

[Autumn]

3. Then there's this.

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald

Dear sad/desperate pro-NSA Dems trying to malign the ruling because Klayman is plaintiff: ACLU has a similar case

[Cali_Democrat]

4. Awww Greenie haz a sad?

Too bad he can't stop people from exposing Klayman the fraud.

[Autumn]

7. Sometimes one is exposed. Name me one person on DU who does not think

Klayman is a fucking fraud. One person. You can't expose what everyone here knows.

However he did file the lawsuit, as did the ACLU.

Glen is right

"Dear sad/desperate pro-NSA Dems trying to malign the ruling because Klayman is plaintiff: ACLU has a similar case"

[Cali_Democrat]

9. I've read a number of posts from people who weren't really familiar with Klayman

I'm merely showing many folks what a nut job he is and I will continue to post articles detailing his craziness.

[Autumn]

11. They must be new young Democrats.

Anyone who doesn't know or hasn't heard of that sick fucker klayman has to be really young naive or pulling ones leg.

[WillyT]

8. Klayman Is A Fraud, True... He's Also A Practicing Lawyer, Also True...

And believe me... I've met many...

Just like cops, teachers, bakers, and everyone else...

They can be contemptible... or doing God's/Earths work.

Yet in the final analysis...

People on the Right, the Left, and in The Center... DO NOT APPROVE...

Of mass surveillance... for ANY reason.

[neverforget]

21. I disagree as there are people who approve of mass surveillance because they're afraid, believe

that a terrorist attack is around the corner or think it's great just because of who is in office be it Bush or Obama. It was wrong under Bush and it's wrong under Obama.

[WillyT]

23. + 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!!

[el_bryanto]

37. What a well reasoned thoughtful response. nt

[spanone]

5. larry the hatemonger. this man is deranged.

[NuclearDem]

6. Yes, the guy's an asshole.

No, this does not invalidate the ruling in any way.

[Cali_Democrat]

10. To me what invalidates the ruling is that the judge said there was no judicial oversight

for the metadata collection even though there's a court order signed by a Federal judge for those Verizon records.

Also, the judge who ruled in favor of Klayman is a Bush appointee.

Also, why would the judge stay his own ruling?

Interesting and valid points IMO.

[NuclearDem]

14. It's utterly irrelevant who appointed the judge.

Bush appointees also blocked the Texas abortion law and ruled against teaching creationism in schools. And upheld the ACA and struck down DOMA.

But what would the motivation be anyway? Rule against something started by the guy who appointed them? If there's something nefarious here I'm having a hard time seeing it.

[Cali_Democrat]

15. What about the Federal judge who signed off on the Verizon metadata

Does that not count as judicial oversight?

[NuclearDem]

16. I haven't read the decision, so I can't comment on that.

[neverforget]

22. Do you know who appoints the FISA judges? Chief Justice John Roberts.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/26/us/politics/robertss-picks-reshaping-secret-surveillance-court.html?hp&target=comments&_r=1&

WASHINGTON — The recent leaks about government spying programs have focused attention on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court and its role in deciding how intrusive the government can be in the name of national security. Less mentioned has been the person who has been quietly reshaping the secret court: Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr.

In making assignments to the court, Chief Justice Roberts, more than his predecessors, has chosen judges with conservative and executive branch backgrounds that critics say make the court more likely to defer to government arguments that domestic spying programs are necessary.

Ten of the court’s 11 judges — all assigned by Chief Justice Roberts — were appointed to the bench by Republican presidents; six once worked for the federal government. Since the chief justice began making assignments in 2005, 86 percent of his choices have been Republican appointees, and 50 percent have been former executive branch officials.

Though the two previous chief justices, Warren E. Burger and William H. Rehnquist, were conservatives like Chief Justice Roberts, their assignments to the surveillance court were more ideologically diverse, according to an analysis by The New York Times of a list of every judge who has served on the court since it was established in 1978.

[2banon]

31. Well of course the pro-authoritarians are well aware that Chief Justice Roberts makes Fisa

appointments. They have complete faith and place their full trust in his judgment to protect us, because after all, he's the Supreme Court Chief Justice!! What's not to trust??

[pipoman]

17. A federal judge operating as a FISA judge

Secretly. ..A secret court with no appeals process. Signing surveillance warrants for every human in the US? How..In the hell..isn't this a 4th violation? Corrupt government, that's the only way..

Federal judges don't sign warrants on the entire population because they have taken an oath to uphold the constitution. .what/where is the oath for these secret judges?

[Cali_Democrat]

19. You appear to have an issue with the FISA law itself

I see nothing wrong with attempting to change the law through legislation. Perhaps it is overkill.

But to say there was no judicial oversight just isn't the case.

[pipoman]

20. No judicial oversight as known

In any other context in the history of the country..

oh, and rulings like this are the only thing which has any chance of unwinding FISA. .

[2banon]

33. LOL!!!!

[Marr]

30. Saying, "you can look at all the Verizon records" could hardly be considered oversight.

It was overly broad in the extreme. Laughably broad.

Suggesting otherwise makes you sound like you're more interested in constructing a technical legal defense for the government than protecting the public's interests.

[Vattel]

34. The judge himself mentions the court order that authorized the collection of phone metadata.

Are you referring to the following passage from the ruling?

"The FISC orders governing the Bulk Telephony Metadata Program specifically
provide that the metadata records may be accessed only for counterterrorism purposes
(and technical database maintenance). Holley Decl. 8; Shea Decl. 30. Specifically,
NSA intelligence without seeking the approval of a judicial officer, may access
the records to obtain foreign intelligence information only through "queries" of the
records performed using "identifiers," such as telephone numbers, associated with
terrorist activity."

[former9thward]

42. Judges almost always stay their own rulings in these type of cases.

In fact if he didn't the government would have appealed to the Court of Appeals and they would have stayed it. Everyone knows that this case is going to the Supreme Court and they will make the final decision. So the judge stays the decision to keep the status quo while the case is in the system.

[madinmaryland]

12. Is the ruling incorrect? I think we can all agree the Klayman is a douchebag, but the real point

that seems to be getting lost is that the NSA is in legal jeopardy with their unconstitutional snooping.

[pipoman]

13. A broken clock is right twice a day...

[Comrade Grumpy]

18. Okay, I deleted my response to your first Klayman thread. But this is really pathetic.

Klayman is not the only suing, and his having sued does not somehow invalidate the ruling or the issue.

If you have a problem with the ruling, that would be a worthwhile thing to post, not this drivel.

[Vashta Nerada]

24. It's not about Klayman.

It's about the ruling.

[neverforget]

27. No! It's about pole dancers and boxes in garages. Because of that all the spying the NSA does

is therefore ruled to be just.

[Archae]

25. If Bush was still President...

Larry Klayman would be fighting to *KEEP* the NSA ability to spy on everyone.

The only reason Klayman is suing now is because Obama is President.
That's all.

Klayman had a rally where he demanded that Obama quit.

Right Wing Watch, ConWebWatch and Crooks and Liars have reams of material about Klayman's incompetence as a lawyer, (he sued Rachel Maddow for a "Christian rock" musician named Bradlee Dean,) his total incompetence as a parent, (he molested his own kids,) and his off-the-deep-end birther accusations and religious bigotry.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

26. Second fail. n/t

[Marr]

29. Yes, he's a loon. The lawsuit is also an important one. /nt

[Matariki]

32. Couldn't you have consolidated your "the lawyer behind NSA lawsuit" threads?

Do you think this somehow exhonorates the NSA illegally spying on US citizens?

Because that's really what it seems like the agenda is.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

35. No. He said he's going to make a series of Klayman PSA's

If he does enough of them, I'm thinking he has all the makings for a nice coffee table book.

[Half-Century Man]

36. So. I'm, in some small part, responsible for Gay Marriages?

You're Welcome. Glad to do my small part.

[Autumn]

38. Stand up and take a bow. Ya did good.

[Half-Century Man]

40. I just stood there and cheered

[SpcMnky]

39. Does this mean the ACLU doesn't have a case against the NSA?

Or the rest of DU?

No, of course not, so why bring it up... do you really think this helps the authoritarians case to illegally spy on everyone?

:shakes-head:

[LanternWaste]

43. I think it means that different people and different organizations may have different opnions...

"Does this mean the ACLU doesn't have a case against the NSA?"

I think it means that different people and different organizations may have different opinions... regardless of whether they call those who may think differently than themselves petulant names like 'authoritarians" or "traitors", or simply act like adults and use the mechanism of reason instead.

[Penicilino]

41. Therefore, NSA collection of everyone's metadata is fine

Or something.

[Zorra]

44. What's your point? Everyone here already knows Klayman is a RW extremist.

Most of us have known it for many years already.

[Cali_Democrat]

46. Actually you'll be surprised

There are a number of people who had no idea who Klayman was. Not only on DU, but on other message boards I read.

I was a little surprised by this so I decided to spread as much information about Klayman as I can.

He's really unhinged and dangerous. I think I'm doing a great service by exposing him.

Stay tuned for more info on him, I am by no means finished!

[KG]

45. hilarious.

yet, pathetic.

[stevenleser]

47. Much as I would like to take credit for the legalization of LGBT marriage equality...

I don't think that me or my religion played THAT big of a part.

I keep trying though.

[stevenleser]

48. Kick nt