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davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 11:18 PM Dec 2013

Feminists call for book in Spain to be banned that tells wives to be submissive to their husband

You wouldn’t believe what Spanish women are reading – and ripping up in protest – these days.

A new book that urges wives to be submissive to their husbands has become an unexpected bestseller in Spain, even as women’s group have staged protests and politicians, on both sides of the political spectrum, have denounced it.

This has not stopped it from selling like hotcakes on Spain’s Amazon website, since there is nothing like a good controversy to drive book sales, as ridiculous and misogynistic as the content sounds.

In one memorable section, the book, called Cásate y sé sumisa, which translates to Get Married and Be Submissive, observes that “we (women) like humiliation because it is for the greater good.”

Or this special nugget: “When your husbands tell you something, you should listen as if it were God speaking.”


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/the-hot-button/the-message-to-women-in-this-bestselling-book-be-submissive/article15983615/?cmpid=rss1


One reviewer on Amazon commented: 'What an insult, a real setback for the struggle of women and men in favour of equality.'

What has riled many even more is that the book is written by a woman - Italian author Costanza Miriano, 43.

A devout Catholic married with four children, her book is based on the teachings of St Paul and has been published by the Archbishop of Granada's printing press Editorial Nuevo Inicio.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2524628/Guide-wives-based-Old-Testament-teachings-St-Paul-bestseller-Spain.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490


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Feminists call for book in Spain to be banned that tells wives to be submissive to their husband (Original Post) davidn3600 Dec 2013 OP
“we (women) like humiliation" can someone tell me where in the bible it states women like seabeyond Dec 2013 #1
Im no expert on the Bible davidn3600 Dec 2013 #2
I don't know if it's coming from the actual Bible or just a generalized sense of what it says? el_bryanto Dec 2013 #3
It sounds just as awful and it means exactly the same thing... lunamagica Dec 2013 #4
i do not know all the bible, and i am not an expert, but pretty damn sure it never said seabeyond Dec 2013 #8
The Apostle Paul was the worst thing that ever happened to Jesus' teachings FrodosPet Dec 2013 #5
there was a version here a few years ago called "the surrendered wife"-- same crap. niyad Dec 2013 #6
really, a man wrote all of them and the women merely submitted and put their names on, seabeyond Dec 2013 #7
would not be at all surprised. but, don't forget, "surrendered wife" came out right after "the niyad Dec 2013 #11
I can't find any calls to ban at the links. Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2013 #9
Pretty much any book promising "how to get a man" or "lose weight" LittleBlue Dec 2013 #10
thank you for you profound insight into women in our society. geek tragedy Dec 2013 #15
Well, as outrageous pipi_k Dec 2013 #12
What great free advertising for a book or movie. Get a bunch of people to act outraged over it sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #13
Ugh! I just don't like banning books. HappyMe Dec 2013 #14
this, its just a book, and like any book you are gonna get people wanting it banned loli phabay Dec 2013 #18
People who call for books to be banned are assholes cthulu2016 Dec 2013 #16
What's not accurate? davidn3600 Dec 2013 #17
 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
1. “we (women) like humiliation" can someone tell me where in the bible it states women like
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 11:24 PM
Dec 2013

humiliation?

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
2. Im no expert on the Bible
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:11 AM
Dec 2013

But it probably works like Nostradamus's writings....you can make it say whatever you want it to say.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
3. I don't know if it's coming from the actual Bible or just a generalized sense of what it says?
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:19 AM
Dec 2013

I don't speak Spanish but it's possible that Humiliate doesn't sound quite as awful in Spanish/Italian as it does in English?

Pretty awful either way though, in all honesty.

Bryant

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
4. It sounds just as awful and it means exactly the same thing...
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:32 AM
Dec 2013

in Spanish. I don't speak Italian, but I'd be really surprised if it has a more benign meaning in Italian -or any language, for that matter-

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
8. i do not know all the bible, and i am not an expert, but pretty damn sure it never said
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:50 AM
Dec 2013

women like to be humiliated.

i think at my age, and all the discussions i have had about womens issues and religion and the bible, i would have heard that once. never heard it. now... the bible says a lot of shit about women, in the old testament. but, no. never, women like to be humiliated.

i can see humble. but, not quite the same.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
5. The Apostle Paul was the worst thing that ever happened to Jesus' teachings
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:41 AM
Dec 2013

Paul took a message of love and charity, and turned it into a tool of oppression and superstition.

niyad

(113,348 posts)
6. there was a version here a few years ago called "the surrendered wife"-- same crap.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:42 AM
Dec 2013

that, of course, was decades after "fascinating womanhood" and "total woman", which spewed the same misogynistic nonsense--all three of these written by women.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
7. really, a man wrote all of them and the women merely submitted and put their names on,
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:48 AM
Dec 2013


meh... makes just as much sense.

niyad

(113,348 posts)
11. would not be at all surprised. but, don't forget, "surrendered wife" came out right after "the
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:02 AM
Dec 2013

rules", that lovely little instruction manual in how to get a man to marry you. in a discussion on those two books one day, I asked what happens when the mask finally comes off. of course, my first question was, why on earth would you want to marry a man who would be dumb enough to fall for those tricks. no answer to either one.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
9. I can't find any calls to ban at the links.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 04:08 AM
Dec 2013

Certainly, such a call would be silly - things like this are best ignored, on the grounds that anyone who takes them seriously is probably beyond saving anyhow.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
10. Pretty much any book promising "how to get a man" or "lose weight"
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 04:15 AM
Dec 2013

will sell like crazy among women. It's like men and those workout machines that they buy but never use, they buy for the hope because they want to believe.

Seems like these two topics are the foundations of all women's magazines I see at the store. Getting a man, keeping him, and losing weight. Wash, rinse, repeat, profit.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
15. thank you for you profound insight into women in our society.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:48 AM
Dec 2013

in the future, we need not consult women to see what is important to them--as you've successfully reduced the entire gender to the comic strip Cathy.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
12. Well, as outrageous
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:35 AM
Dec 2013

as the content of that book is, what really pisses me off is people who think they have the right to tell others what they can or can't...should or should not...read.

If they're merely denouncing it, fine.

If they're trying to get it banned, then shame on them.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
13. What great free advertising for a book or movie. Get a bunch of people to act outraged over it
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:45 AM
Dec 2013

and call for it to be banned, and it's likely to become a best seller. Using women again to do it.

Pieces of trash that demean any human being are best ignored so it makes you wonder whether these controversies are planned as part of the promotion, or are there actually people who are so dumb they help to make these ridiculous pieces of trash successful.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
14. Ugh! I just don't like banning books.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:48 AM
Dec 2013

I don't care how stupid they are, banning isn't the answer. Just don't buy the damned thing.

 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
18. this, its just a book, and like any book you are gonna get people wanting it banned
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:59 PM
Dec 2013

ban one and then whats next banning harry potter or any other book one cares to mention.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
16. People who call for books to be banned are assholes
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:36 PM
Dec 2013

As for whether the headline of this OP is accurate... I have no idea.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
17. What's not accurate?
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:51 PM
Dec 2013
The book currently appears at number 15 on the Amazon bestseller list in Spain but has raised the hackles of modern-minded Senoras who even staged a public demonstration against the tome, where they tore up copies.

Women's groups are considering legal action to get it banned arguing that it promotes gender violence.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/spain/10511139/Book-on-submissive-wives-becomes-hit-in-Spain.html
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