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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 03:02 AM Dec 2013

''OK you can admit it''

Last edited Tue Dec 17, 2013, 09:50 AM - Edit history (1)

Conan shows at least 15 different
broadcasters saying the same thing.I


I don't know if he set it up but it seems they are all on the same script and this could happen anyway.

http://teamcoco.com/video/conan-highlight-media-reacts-admit-it

On edit it is now on youtube which I now present.

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''OK you can admit it'' (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter Dec 2013 OP
Not a Hoax after research Ichingcarpenter Dec 2013 #1
Another scripted segment his team found Ichingcarpenter Dec 2013 #2
Nobody finds this disturbing enough to comment? Ichingcarpenter Dec 2013 #3
Timestamps between 2 and 4 in the morning may be a factor... JHB Dec 2013 #4
Good stuff. Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #21
Well the clip ends with Conan saying "I find it frightening..." mucifer Dec 2013 #27
Search on Video News Release or prepackaged news JHB Dec 2013 #5
It may be national retail groups to encourage self-gifting while holiday shopping pinboy3niner Dec 2013 #13
Perhaps if you give some background info KitSileya Dec 2013 #6
The videos are very short Ichingcarpenter Dec 2013 #7
Ok... I can't listen to anything right now. KitSileya Dec 2013 #10
Exactly. I never wondered about where these stories come from... now I do. reformist2 Dec 2013 #11
Unbelievable malaise Dec 2013 #8
TV News = Brainwashing. Watch at your own discretion, preferably as little as possible. reformist2 Dec 2013 #9
More on Video News Releases JHB Dec 2013 #12
As O'Brien comments Ichingcarpenter Dec 2013 #14
Great Read for Reference! KoKo Dec 2013 #15
Talking points exist in most all media seveneyes Dec 2013 #16
These are scripts not talking points Ichingcarpenter Dec 2013 #17
Exactly! mountain grammy Dec 2013 #18
Yes, certainly scripted seveneyes Dec 2013 #19
Local commercial TV "news" programming is worse than a joke. thucythucy Dec 2013 #20
Creepy, creepy, creepy. woo me with science Dec 2013 #22
+1 El_Johns Dec 2013 #23
Crazy. PowerToThePeople Dec 2013 #24
Hey, in the age of media consolidation these are just the faces who say the lines. pa28 Dec 2013 #25
Holy sheet. liberalmuse Dec 2013 #26
I assume they all pull the same AP or Reuters stories gollygee Dec 2013 #28

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
3. Nobody finds this disturbing enough to comment?
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 04:59 AM
Dec 2013

Sure its funny...ha, ha, but looking deeper into this don't you think somebody is getting played and who is the man behind the curtain handing out the same script?

JHB

(37,161 posts)
4. Timestamps between 2 and 4 in the morning may be a factor...
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 05:39 AM
Dec 2013

...And since I have to go to work I won't add much more.

Yes, prepackaged segments are a problem below the radar of too many people, especially when they are really PR campaigns masquerading as news segments.

mucifer

(23,550 posts)
27. Well the clip ends with Conan saying "I find it frightening..."
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 07:20 AM
Dec 2013

I didn't laugh at the segment. It's great a late night comedy show is choosing to report on this.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
5. Search on Video News Release or prepackaged news
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 06:46 AM
Dec 2013

It's a PR tool that's become a staple, especially in local news. There's a suggested script for the lead-in (kind of obvious what it was with this example), followed by a video segment produced by some other party. And the big question is who the other parties are. It would have been interesting to see the video segment that followed, to figure out what they were trying to sell.

They're very attractive for local stations because it gives them material to air at little or no cost, and the lead-in by the local station anchors gives the impression that it's something the station did on it's own, not something that they got from elsewhere and just used verbatim.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
13. It may be national retail groups to encourage self-gifting while holiday shopping
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 09:00 AM
Dec 2013

As happens every year at this time, at least two surveys reported in the last week or so that a lot of people are self-gifting. One was done by a tech marketing group reporting on people making tech purchases for themselves, and the other was reported by a national retailer group.

The goal may simply be to increase sales by overcoming the resistance many people have to buying for oneself at this time of year. So the survey results are pre-packaged and scripted as a news feature that local media outlets can run--for free!--to show that "everybody's doing it."

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
6. Perhaps if you give some background info
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 07:41 AM
Dec 2013

I can't warch the vid right now, and have no idea what you are talking about.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
7. The videos are very short
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 07:45 AM
Dec 2013

I posted 3 of them two within the OP and the OP has the latest that's not on you tube yet.

The reporters from each station saya the same thing exact words.

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
10. Ok... I can't listen to anything right now.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 08:01 AM
Dec 2013

So the fact that the reporters are using the exact phrasing shows that their material isn't independently source, I presume. And it wouldn't be anything unless we're talking about stations that don't belong to the same mega-corporation, so we're talking propaganda from an outside source, then. And Conan O'Brien dared say the Emperor has no clothes on, metaphorically speaking.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
12. More on Video News Releases
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 08:38 AM
Dec 2013
A video news release (VNR) is a video segment made to look like a news report, but is instead created by a PR firm, advertising agency, marketing firm, corporation, or government agency. They are provided to television newsrooms to shape public opinion, promote commercial products and services, publicize individuals, or support other interests. News producers may air VNRs, in whole or in part, at their discretion or incorporate them into news reports if they contain information appropriate to a story or of interest to viewers.

Critics of VNRs have called the practice deceptive or a propaganda technique, particularly when the segment is not identified to the viewers as a VNR. Firms producing VNRs disagree and equate their use to a press release in video form and point to the fact that editorial judgement in the worthiness, part or whole, of a VNR's content is still left in the hands of Journalists, Program Producers or the like. The United States Federal Communications Commission is currently investigating the practice of VNRs.
***
VNRs have been used extensively in business since at least the early 1980s. Corporations such as Microsoft and Philip Morris, and the pharmaceutical industry generally, have all made use of the technique.

According to the trade-group Public Relations Society of America, a VNR is the video equivalent of a press release.[2] and presents a client's case in an attractive, informative format. The VNR placement agency seeks to garner media attention for the client's products, services, brands or other marketing goals. The VNR affords local TV stations free broadcast quality materials for use in reports offered by such stations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_news_release

In March 2000, Candace White, marketing professor at the University of Tennessee at Knoxville, co-authored a report with Mark D. Harmon for the Public Relations Society of America titled "How video news releases are used in television broadcasts." On the panel with Moscowitz and Potter, White said that the same self-interest that encourages news directors to use VNRs dictates that the material is used responsibly. "I trust news producers to be able to weed out true news value; I give them credit for being able to recognize blatant sales pitches. Our study found that the corporate videos were used the least, and the ones about health and safety were used the most," she said.

The Center for Media and Democracy's Executive Director John Stauber disagreed. "The use of VNRs amounts to systematic deception of viewers, both by the hidden interested parties behind them, and by news organizations with impure motives themselves," he said.

Reporting on a September 2005 seminar on new media, Media Daily News noted that VNRs "which can look like regular news stories to the unaided eye--can be placed in local or national newscasts." On that panel was Larry Moskowitz, the president and CEO of Medialink Worldwide. "If there is news in your brands we'll find a way to put your brands in your news. In a sense, it's product placement, but it's earned a place on the shelf," Media Daily News reported. [14]

Medialink Worldwide, one of the largest producers and distributors of VNRs, states in its 2003 annual report that a "VNR is a television news story that communicates an entity's public relations or corporate message. It is paid for by the corporation or organization seeking to announce news and is delivered without charge to the media." [15]

While the company likens VNRs as akin to the traditional hard copy news release, it acknowledges they are widely used in newsrooms. "Produced in broadcast news style, VNRs relay the news of a product launch, medical discovery, corporate merger event, timely feature or breaking news directly to television news decision-makers who may use the video and audio material in full or edited form. Most major television stations in the world now use VNRs, some on a regular basis," Medialink states.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Video_news_releases


More evidence of that–if any is necessary–comes in the form of this clip reel put together by Conan O'Brien's Conan show, which shows a large number of TV anchors reading from the same script about a story of immense public importance: a smartphone app for ice cream delivery:

As O'Brien comments, "I don't find that funny–I find it scary."

This would appear to be one more example of what Free Press and others were warning us about a few years back–fake news segments that are really just corporate PR planted in the middle of a "newscast."

The FCC should, in theory, do something about this manipulation of the news on the public airwaves. But the commission has been extremely slow to act. As James Rainey reported in the L.A. Times (3/30/11), two stations faced slap-on-the-wrist fines for airing commercials dressed up as news–four years after the offending broadcasts aired.
http://www.fair.org/blog/2012/07/19/local-tv-news-now-with-ice-cream/

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
14. As O'Brien comments
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 09:08 AM
Dec 2013

, "I don't find that funny–I find it scary."


As do I ... many thanks for finding the link

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
15. Great Read for Reference!
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 09:30 AM
Dec 2013

They've been putting these on my local TV station for years. Most people wouldn't know they are VNR's but it was posted on DU and around the web when Media Matters and others first wrote about it awhile back. Once alerted you can spot them.

Glad Conan did this so that more folks are alerted!

thucythucy

(8,069 posts)
20. Local commercial TV "news" programming is worse than a joke.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:58 PM
Dec 2013

Pretty much every local news program I've ever watched includes "make-up" and "wardrobe" among the credits at the end of the half hour.

I've never once seen a "fact checker" listed during those same credits.

Which tells you right there what the priorities are.

pa28

(6,145 posts)
25. Hey, in the age of media consolidation these are just the faces who say the lines.
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 03:12 AM
Dec 2013

Doesn't matter if the subject is self gifting, tax and trade or Social Security. They just read the lines.

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