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reformist2

(9,841 posts)
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 09:02 AM Dec 2013

Is there any way to denationalize, cut back on, dicussion of every trivial news story?


While it may be entertaining to talk about every little quirky thing that happens in the world,
in the end I can't help but thinking that it amounts to so much idle gossip. Not that gossip is
horrible, but too much of it ends up crowding out the more important issues that we ought to
be paying attention to, both nationally and locally. Especially locally - I think local news items
are the biggest victims of this.

So maybe as a new year's resolution, we might do well to try to cut back on discussion/gossip
on 'news' items that really don't impact us personally, and have no real national significance.
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Is there any way to denationalize, cut back on, dicussion of every trivial news story? (Original Post) reformist2 Dec 2013 OP
Don't stop there...give us the list. brooklynite Dec 2013 #1
I don't think that's very likely - it gets to the question of why people post here? el_bryanto Dec 2013 #2
It's a general observation. Here we are at a messageboard that hints at politcal action, and yet... reformist2 Dec 2013 #22
It is extremely difficult, I think, to determine what is worthy of discussion here Skidmore Dec 2013 #3
There really is no "we" at DU except in regard to supporting Dem candidates. djean111 Dec 2013 #4
No. nt pinboy3niner Dec 2013 #5
Sure. LWolf Dec 2013 #6
"denationalize"? sendero Dec 2013 #7
A Princess Bride Moment Ichingcarpenter Dec 2013 #9
"My name is Inigo Montoya...prepare to be denationalized, trivial news story!" pinboy3niner Dec 2013 #11
I was contemplating this subject a couple of days ago. searchingforlight Dec 2013 #8
Funny that you should mention gossip Orrex Dec 2013 #10
School shootings are not trivial news stories SecularMotion Dec 2013 #12
Wow! Iggo Dec 2013 #13
Nice catch pinboy3niner Dec 2013 #17
Last night: NBC, CBS, ABC, PBS extensive coverage on... Eleanors38 Dec 2013 #19
Tip: You don't have to read ALL the posts! Scuba Dec 2013 #14
What may be trivial to you, may be of vital importance to me. RC Dec 2013 #15
Go to the group for your state. You will get local news for your area that impacts you patricia92243 Dec 2013 #16
Some of us do not post local stories on DU anymore nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #18
Thought police? No thanks. Just skip what you don't want to read. polichick Dec 2013 #20
I guess we could add: irrelevant, repetitive, gossipy...to the jury system here.. Tikki Dec 2013 #21
why do you hate democracy? n/t wildbilln864 Dec 2013 #23

brooklynite

(94,600 posts)
1. Don't stop there...give us the list.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 09:15 AM
Dec 2013

Which stories ARE we allowed to comment on and which are too trivial for you?

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
2. I don't think that's very likely - it gets to the question of why people post here?
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 09:19 AM
Dec 2013

I know for myself it's a variety of reasons, some noble, and some not so noble.

If a story doesn't mean anything to you you can usually tell from the Title - but it might well mean something to someone else.

Bryant

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
22. It's a general observation. Here we are at a messageboard that hints at politcal action, and yet...
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:07 PM
Dec 2013

... an inordinate amount of our time seems to be spent on nit-picky stories such as who was forced to take
his hat off at what steakhouse in Tennessee, just to use a recent example.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
3. It is extremely difficult, I think, to determine what is worthy of discussion here
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 09:24 AM
Dec 2013

including local stories. That bridge closing between NY and NJ was also at first a local story but has implications at a national level. What I am in favor of is a realistic assessment of news and not reading nefarious and cosmic level conspiracies so readily by divination and insisting that individual filling in the blanks constitutes truth. Sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't but when it doesn't, you rarely find people coming back to retract or set the record straight.

I reserve judgment until I see some proof.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
4. There really is no "we" at DU except in regard to supporting Dem candidates.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 09:26 AM
Dec 2013

Everything else, IMO, is totally voluntary, just don't click on things you find annoying or insignificant.
I do think many many local occurrences can have eventual national significance - what laws are people breaking, what are the police doing, how has ALEC permeated the legal system, how has fracking slid into communities, what are the consequences. Nothing happens in a vacuum, and what happens locally affects how people vote at times, and lets us be aware of creeping fascism at other times.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
6. Sure.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 09:28 AM
Dec 2013

People have to decide that there's something more interesting in their lives to talk about, and that they aren't addicted to the news. "Staying informed" doesn't mean staying plugged in 24/7 and watching, listening, and reading every single story, let alone having to discuss those stories ad nauseum.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
9. A Princess Bride Moment
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 09:38 AM
Dec 2013

denationalize
diːˈnaʃ ə n(ə lʌɪz/Submit
verb
1.
transfer (a nationalized industry or institution) from public to private ownership.
"an attempt to denationalize the state monopolies"
2.
deprive (a country or person) of nationality or national characteristics.
"a state that had been largely denationalized within the European Community"


searchingforlight

(1,401 posts)
8. I was contemplating this subject a couple of days ago.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 09:31 AM
Dec 2013

When I read your post my first thought was that you were addressing the 24 hour news channels. I do think there is a place for news that is reported in a simple form without all the added "human interest" and "speculation". More like the 10 minute segments of old. "The facts, ma'am. Just the facts".

I believe DU is different. We come here to have discussions about things that we hear, see and think. I believe the subjects have been segmented so that one can choose to get involved or not. All should be on the table. It is like a cocktail party. If you join one group of people and you don't like the discussion, you move on. I don't like or agree with everything I read but I think it is beneficial to see what others are thinking and incorporate or discard the information as I filter it.

Orrex

(63,216 posts)
10. Funny that you should mention gossip
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 09:44 AM
Dec 2013
2. Gossip is our moral scorecard. In the Public Goods Game, free riders don't just make more money than cooperators. They can tank the whole game, because everybody becomes less cooperative as they watch free riders profit at their expense. In some game versions, however, a technique called "pro-social punishment" is allowed. You can pay a small amount of your own money to make sure that a free rider loses money for not cooperating. When this happens, cooperation picks up again—because now it is being enforced.
From this interesting discussion.

Iggo

(47,558 posts)
13. Wow!
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 10:06 AM
Dec 2013

School shootings are trivial if they're not in my neighborhood?



First time I've seen that tried.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
15. What may be trivial to you, may be of vital importance to me.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 10:33 AM
Dec 2013

Let me decide what I want to know about and what to skip over.
I am getting more than a little annoyed at people that have so little self control that they want to force their compensation remedies on everyone else. I don't have that problem. Let it all hang out and let everyone else pick and choose what they want to read. DU is too diverse to censer it down for the few, or the one.
You live in one place and I live in another, a thousand miles away. Something happens here. You don't care, so what? Don't read it.
But the guy across the street from you may care, because he used to live here, or still has family here, or is just interested in happenings like what just happened. That is what is wrong with your proposal.
Censorship?

patricia92243

(12,597 posts)
16. Go to the group for your state. You will get local news for your area that impacts you
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:21 PM
Dec 2013

personally.

Also, if you are not interested in a thread, it can be deleted/blocked.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
18. Some of us do not post local stories on DU anymore
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:28 PM
Dec 2013



If there is a disaster in my county, people can read it on CNN, even though I will be writing the story for the local paper. I will not post the articles, or links to those stories.

The problem the OP has is that DU has an unwritten editorial policy, and original posts have also mostly gone the way of the dodo. This has made this place increasingly a news aggregator, and not even a good one at that.

I miss the DU where we discussed stuff, that is increasingly gone. I missed the DU where we also discussed local stories that were actually of national importance quite possibly. Hell, I am sitting on one of those right now, and there will be no link from me here.

Tikki

(14,557 posts)
21. I guess we could add: irrelevant, repetitive, gossipy...to the jury system here..
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:01 PM
Dec 2013

I have learned from news items posted here from all over the place…some have no lasting meaning
in my scope of existence..some have.



"That's The Way of the World…."…FLIPPER
Tikki

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