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Are right wing heads exploding today? (Original Post) EC Dec 2013 OP
Love Cat Stevens! Faux pas Dec 2013 #1
Great news! Cat Stevens is an accomplished musician... PDJane Dec 2013 #2
Stupid question. IT'S TUESDAY! DetlefK Dec 2013 #3
You mean Yusuf Islam? n2doc Dec 2013 #4
Unfortunately he is not athiest, so he is filled with hatred and rigid ways of thinking FrodosPet Dec 2013 #5
Peace Train tk2kewl Dec 2013 #6
His own words make a mockery of his song. Ikonoklast Dec 2013 #30
huh? EC Dec 2013 #7
My point is that some people here are just as bigoted against religion FrodosPet Dec 2013 #11
Why do you say he is "filled with hatred"? (Quoting your unqualified statement) Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2013 #24
Gotta start work in a few, otherwise I would post many examples FrodosPet Dec 2013 #27
We'll be waiting brucefan Dec 2013 #28
OK, but work comes first FrodosPet Dec 2013 #31
You said Yusuf Islam (Cat Stevens) is filled with hatred. Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2013 #32
Sarcasm FrodosPet Dec 2013 #33
When using living people as a foil, if you respect them the slightest, it is Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2013 #35
Because Tea for the Tillerman was a brilliant album? cyberswede Dec 2013 #8
But Knights In Satan's Service are also going into the Hall underpants Dec 2013 #14
KISS! We love to hate them, and we hate to love them FrodosPet Dec 2013 #16
I heard him speaking once, on marketing... riqster Dec 2013 #19
Ow. My brain. WilliamPitt Dec 2013 #25
I love HAROLD AND MAUDE zappaman Dec 2013 #9
Jinx! beac Dec 2013 #12
Ha! n/t zappaman Dec 2013 #13
Aren't they exploding EVERY day? beac Dec 2013 #10
... Scuba Dec 2013 #15
Can't help but feel good after this damnedifIknow Dec 2013 #17
He deserves it many times over. Bluenorthwest Dec 2013 #18
The Roadsinger album is pretty good jberryhill Dec 2013 #20
Probably not. Sure wish they would be. calimary Dec 2013 #21
Didn't Cat Stevens support Iran's fatwa... Nitram Dec 2013 #22
Yeah, unfortunately he did. catbyte Dec 2013 #26
Get on the train SCVDem Dec 2013 #23
I can't forget it skydive forever Dec 2013 #29
Yusuf Islam spanone Dec 2013 #34
I would think this would do it... Behind the Aegis Dec 2013 #36

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
30. His own words make a mockery of his song.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 03:13 PM
Dec 2013
On February 21, 1989, Yusuf Islam addressed students at Kingston University in London about his conversion to Islam and was asked about the controversy in the Muslim world and the fatwa calling for Salman Rushdie's execution. He replied, "He must be killed. The Qur'an makes it clear - if someone defames the prophet, then he must die."



Robertson: You don't think that this man deserves to die?
Y. Islam: Who, Salman Rushdie?
Robertson: Yes.
Y. Islam: Yes, yes.
Robertson: And do you have a duty to be his executioner?
Y. Islam: Uh, no, not necessarily, unless we were in an Islamic state and I was ordered by a judge or by the authority to carry out such an act - perhaps, yes.
[Some minutes later, Robertson on the subject of a protest where an effigy of the author is to be burned]
Robertson: Would you be part of that protest, Yusuf Islam, would you go to a demonstration where you knew that an effigy was going to be burned?
Y. Islam: I would have hoped that it'd be the real thing


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_Stevens'_comments_about_Salman_Rushdie


Of course, Islam says that all of this was just misunderstood, a joke. Funny guy.

Sounds like your typical right-wing asshat excuse to me.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
11. My point is that some people here are just as bigoted against religion
Reply to EC (Reply #7)
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:20 PM
Dec 2013

As some others who are bigoted against non-believers and followers of other faiths.

I personally have respect for him. I loved his music growing up, and I see nothing he has done worthy of disrespect.

But he follows an Abrahamic religion. And there are several people whose blanket condemnation of Islam, Christianity, and Judaism means that they have no choice but to disrespect him for following a sky daddy.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
27. Gotta start work in a few, otherwise I would post many examples
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:23 PM
Dec 2013

Of blanket anti-religious bigotry all over this site.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,010 posts)
32. You said Yusuf Islam (Cat Stevens) is filled with hatred.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 03:41 PM
Dec 2013

Your post, #5:

Unfortunately he is not athiest, so he is filled with hatred and rigid ways of thinking Why are we speaking positively of him

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,010 posts)
35. When using living people as a foil, if you respect them the slightest, it is
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 06:00 PM
Dec 2013

When dealing with actual living people, if you respect them the slightest, it is probably best to adopt Wikipedia's policy and be very very careful with statements about them or around them. It is best to be really clear if you intend to merely use them as a foil to make sarcastic points about someone else or some other group.

I suspected sarcasm might be involved, but I couldn't be sure, so I laid bare the issue so that it could be clearly resolved.

Even if you have no respect for a person, probably best to be very clear if one going to be sarcastic about them, or to use them for sarcastic purposes. The latest example of that is Rob Ford having to make yet another public retraction and apology to a reporter he sarcastically or maliciously (probably the latter) all but called a pedophile. The reporter asked him for an apology and when it was not forthcoming he filed legal papers of his intention to sue Ford. Ford saw the light suddenly and changed his course 180 degrees.

In the final analysis I agree with your point about how too many people (even on DU) tar all christians and/or muslims with one brush. I agree with you that there are many of both faiths who are actively trying and often succeeding to hold to the real and best intentions of the faith with regard to their interaction with the world.

underpants

(182,830 posts)
14. But Knights In Satan's Service are also going into the Hall
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:29 PM
Dec 2013

When I was a kid the rumor was that that is what KISS "really meant". It was probably originated by Gene Simmons.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
16. KISS! We love to hate them, and we hate to love them
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:45 PM
Dec 2013

They were shamelessly commercial sellouts, average at best as far as "musical talent" goes. And Gene Simmons is a misogynist RW tool.

But when "Detroit Rock City" comes on - the air guitar comes right out!

riqster

(13,986 posts)
19. I heard him speaking once, on marketing...
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:48 PM
Dec 2013

He said at that time that they took it from Colonel Sanders' maxim: "Keep It Simple, Stupid".

Fits with everything they ever did, musically or otherwise. I believe his story.

beac

(9,992 posts)
10. Aren't they exploding EVERY day?
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:18 PM
Dec 2013




Detonating small-brained craniums aside, I'm glad he's going in. (see my sig line quote from 'Harold & Maude', the movie w/an all-Cat Stevens* soundtrack.)


*he was still Cat at the time of the movie's release
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
20. The Roadsinger album is pretty good
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:52 PM
Dec 2013

A lot of people like his old stuff and haven't given a listen to his newer stuff.

Roadsinger is something of a return to what people liked about his old stuff.

I find this one in particular to be inspirational:



Be you dust, or be you star
To be what you must just reach out for what you are
And though you travel many roads
There's but one way and that's the one you chose

Nitram

(22,822 posts)
22. Didn't Cat Stevens support Iran's fatwa...
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:01 PM
Dec 2013

...against Salman Rushdie? I know he denies that he meant to suggest he supported the fatwa, but when asked about the fatwa, he explained the punishment for blasphemy instead of supporting Rushdie's freedom of speech..

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