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DALLAS (NBC) After a controversial sentence by a Texas judge, the families of the victims who were injured or killed in a drunk driving crash are now suing a teen who claimed affluenza prevented him from knowing the consequences for his actions.
Ethan Couch, 16, was sentenced to an alcohol treatment facility and 10 years of probation after he was convicted of drunken driving, which resulted in the deaths of four people.
In June, Breanna Mitchells vehicle broke down on the side of a North Texas road.
Hollie and Shelby Boyles both stopped to lend a hand, along with youth pastor Brian Jennings.
As they were trying to fix the stranded vehicle, the group was hit by Couch, who was driving while intoxicated.
The sentence sparked outrage after Couchs defense attorneys said he suffered from affluenza, meaning that since his family is so rich, he was unable to know right from wrong.
Five civil lawsuits have been filed, including three lawsuits from the families of the four victims who were killed.
Eric Boyles is suing Couch for more than $1 million in damages after his wife and daughter were killed when they were hit by Couchs vehicle.
http://kfor.com/2013/12/16/victims-families-file-multimillion-dollar-lawsuits-against-affluenza-teen/
appleannie1
(5,067 posts)TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)that's not how it works is it?
riqster
(13,986 posts)Modern medicine at its finest.
LiberalEsto
(22,845 posts)I would not care if those idiot rich parents lost every last cent.
riqster
(13,986 posts)Heather MC
(8,084 posts)riqster
(13,986 posts)I said "fuck it" and made my snark an OP: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024190099
iandhr
(6,852 posts)Last edited Tue Dec 17, 2013, 05:34 PM - Edit history (1)
If they are so rich they can buy their sons freedom they will being willing to payoff the victims. To them it's factored in as the cost of doing business.
riqster
(13,986 posts)exboyfil
(17,863 posts)HUGE - $20M and that probably does not even cover the total future cost of the care a young man paralyzed and brain damaged will have throughout his life
I do hope that get that judgment and it is placed inside an trust account for the care of this boy otherwise the tax payers will get an additional present since not even an upper middle class family can handle these types of expenses and I doubt a child had LTC insurance
Probably a $1M/each to the families of each one who died.
I really don't know if he has this kind of money. I would suspect it will take some significant arm twisting to get any from his liability policy given the circumstances.
I am sure at trial they will try to diminish the liability for the friends because they elected to jump into the truck with a crazed drunk, but society's interests should also be protected (full Medicaid disability for 40+ years).
WillyT
(72,631 posts)ck4829
(35,077 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,737 posts)I hope they win, and win big.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)pnwest
(3,266 posts)They need to sue for an amount that would get their attention. It's not about the money, it's about affecting these people in a way they can understand.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,322 posts)Earnings potential, disruption to other lives - if this human scum got let off because his parents are rich, then apply a ruthless "everything can be valued in money" approach to making them paupers for having failed so completely to bring up a responsible son (remember, before this, the police found him with a passed out, undressed, 14-year-old girl). They already knew they were too immoral to bring up a child properly, but did nothing to change it. These are people who cannot be trusted with money or children.
Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)In Texas, can the parents be held legally liable for their son's actions? It's one thing to sue the kid, who presumably "owns" nothing as he is not an adult yet. But can you sue his filthy rich parents and win a judgement?
ETA: I hope it's true and the families sue this kid and his parents into oblivion.
Rex
(65,616 posts)16 and on the insurance, I would say yes since they are just as liable by allowing him to drive...or did he even have car insurance? Really, they should take the parents for every dime they have. 1 million dollars is a pittance for two souls imo. The devil pays more.
Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)They don't seem to be the most responsible people in the world. Probably figure they can just cruise through life and throw money at whatever problems develop.
I think most car insurances have a damage cap, so hopefully that will be exceeded and then the victims can go after their personal assets. I would love to see him and his two worthless parents bankrupted and living under a bridge.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Unless these rich people have connections, then all bets are off imo. I cannot believe in America, we have people that believe they are entitled to...oh wait how could I forget the GOP. They are the most entitled assholes ever to exist.
CatWoman
(79,302 posts)exboyfil
(17,863 posts)doesn't it. It definitely exposes the corporation to additional liability where it may be more difficult to become O.J. style judgement proof. I wonder how much equity he has in his business buildings now - some a**hole banker will probably loan against the building, he will convert the loan to his own needs, and the banker will be first up in any bankruptcy settlement.
sinkingfeeling
(51,460 posts)ReRe
(10,597 posts)... dis-barred and thrown in the street.
Gothmog
(145,322 posts)The only thing that can be done is to vote the judge out of office at the next election
ReRe
(10,597 posts)They can be impeached in one way or another, by the state, no?
Gothmog
(145,322 posts)It is possible to sanction a judge but this process is very difficult. This was done to the judge who was sending tweets and messages to one of the parties (an assistant district attorney) but now that judge is running to be District Attorney http://www.juanitajean.com/2013/12/16/oh-sure-then-who-will-text-you/
Dopers_Greed
(2,640 posts)The shitbag parents basically confessed wrongdoing with the "affluenza" defense.
pediatricmedic
(397 posts)Along with many years of delays.
catbyte
(34,404 posts)It's really the only thing they understand anyway. What a tragedy.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)7962
(11,841 posts)Thats one thing about the wealthy; everyones your friend, but if you do something disgusting like this, they will abandon you in a heartbeat.
Now if the courts will break them financially, they might actually realize what they've done. We can hope.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)First of all, the shit was driving a company car. That's the ballgame, folks, the source of all daddy's income. Business vehicles are not treated or insured like personal vehicles and there are very stiff fines for misuse. Tax people could also go after daddy for this.
$1M is far too low as daddy is paying $450k just for shit's treatment.
A really high-powered lawyer could get so much out of this because the parents implicated themselves at his trial. They were allowing a 16 year-old to live without parental supervision, which might be illegal. They should be asking for far far more.
Civil cases have a much lower threshold of proof than criminal cases I think. If I were one of those jurors I would be one that awards something so much higher than asked because every cent should be stripped from this father and his disgusting son.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)In a criminal case it's beyond a reasonable doubt (probably 95% sure), in a civil case, it's just preponderance of the evidence (51%) - the parents are toast on this but $1 million seems like peanuts.
Gothmog
(145,322 posts)The plaintiffs can bring a suit but class actions are limited to cases with so many plaintiffs or injured parties that one must have a representative plaintiff who represents all members of the class.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Very interesting info.
DinahMoeHum
(21,794 posts)- says Billy Valentine (played by Eddie Murphy) in the movie Trading Places.
VWolf
(3,944 posts)I thought you could just shoot 'em in the kneecaps with a double-barreled shotgun.
DinahMoeHum
(21,794 posts)But then you could get twenty years for that shit.
VWolf
(3,944 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)They CERTAINLY can afford to pay and must pay.
exboyfil
(17,863 posts)does not mean he has money for a substantial judgment. I suspect he is already figuring on personal and corporate bankruptcy (the truck was owned by the corporation which brings up the question of why were they delivering sheet metal at night doing 70 mph - wait I guess it was being driven for personal use - does the tax man know?).
I bet he did not blink an eye at the $450/K for the treatment (and I wonder how he will get on the back end). Any money lying around we be gobbled up by the lawyers and the judgement. The money he moved offshore - now that is another question.
sdfernando
(4,935 posts)1 mil isn't going to hurt them...1 billion will.
LadyHawkAZ
(6,199 posts)loudsue
(14,087 posts)That's how they might "learn".
QuestForSense
(653 posts)If some dumb kid is deemed too stupid to have learned right from wrong because he comes from an affluent family, might not the same logic apply to some other dumb kid too stupid to have learned because he comes from a poor family? I wonder what kind of a stupid family that judge comes from?
florida08
(4,106 posts)is an insult to working people everywhere not to mention a gross miscarriage of justice. To actually pretend that he can't be held accountable because of his rich parents being so uninvolved they didn't teach him the basic principles of living in a civilized society is enough to want to sue them for every penny they have. What a rotten judge who deemed his life was more important than the people he killed being under the influence. I hope the people in Texas stand with the families on this.
Skittles
(153,169 posts)this kid had previous alcohol-related infractions - there should have been an intervention then, before he could kill people
florida08
(4,106 posts)Does seem the parents need some mandatory training in rearing offspring. Wouldn't you think this judge who actually accepted this reason of defense would see that? Honestly she should have her robes removed.
WowSeriously
(343 posts)Gothmog
(145,322 posts)This is not my area of the law. The parents are liable for property damages but such damages may be capped at $25,000 per occurance. http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/FA/htm/FA.41.htm
Sec. 41.001. LIABILITY. A parent or other person who has the duty of control and reasonable discipline of a child is liable for any property damage proximately caused by:
(1) the negligent conduct of the child if the conduct is reasonably attributable to the negligent failure of the parent or other person to exercise that duty; or
(2) the wilful and malicious conduct of a child who is at least 10 years of age but under 18 years of age.
Amended by Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 20, Sec. 1, eff. April 20, 1995; Acts 2001, 77th Leg., ch. 587, Sec. 1, eff. Sept. 1, 2001.
Sec. 41.002. LIMIT OF DAMAGES. Recovery for damage caused by wilful and malicious conduct is limited to actual damages, not to exceed $25,000 per occurrence, plus court costs and reasonable attorney's fees.
Amended by Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 20, Sec. 1, eff. April 20, 1995; Acts 1997, 75th Leg., ch. 783, Sec. 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1997.
This statute is for property damages. I am not sure if the limit applies to personal injuries.
florida08
(4,106 posts)I believe this is vehicular homicide which is a felony pretty much everywhere. Those penalties include:
Monetary punishment
Prison
Drug and Alcohol treatment
Loss of License
and community service
Gothmog
(145,322 posts)I still think that the plaintiffs can sue for personal injury under the common law understanding that any claims for property damage are capped at $25,000
florida08
(4,106 posts)Iwas thinking in terms of justice not monetary compensation which I think is what the families would prefer. At least I would. They didn't get that. Just like the Trayvon case.
Gothmog
(145,322 posts)Paying a fine to the state will not help the victims of this tort. It appears that the Texas limitation on damages applies to property damages only and that the plaintiffs are relying on common law/restatement of torts to sue the parents. Large verdicts and payments are the best help to the plaintiffs/victims
florida08
(4,106 posts)The more I am convinced that the wealthy should indeed be paying a whole lot more in taxes. This is a prime example of justice inequality based on a bank account.
Mojo Electro
(362 posts)is suing for $20 million. The maximum. I hope they get every cent. It should help somewhat with their affluenza. Hopefully this lawsuit can rid this poor family of their terrible affliction.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)ala Zimmerman....