What party is responsible for putting military

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pension cuts into the budget bill. I sure hope it wasn't the democrats. All I keep hearing about are the republicans that are not for the bill because of the pension cuts.

[atreides1]

1. Probably Ryan

With a little assistance from Senator Patty Murray(D)...and the rest of that group of useless meat puppets!!!

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2. With the few republicans being paraded on TV

speaking against the cuts it gives the impression that it is the democrats' doing. Of courts the hosts don't ask.

[karynnj]

8. Patty Murray deserves a lot of cedit for preserving the security net programs nt

[sinkingfeeling]

3. The GOP just voted against unemployment help for veterans.

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4. It doesn't really matter.. it's a bipartisan bill...

I can tell you that I will be looking at the Yes votes, in the house and the Senate, and every person on that list will lose my support.

[karynnj]

7. Do you realize the alternative was a continuing resolution ( if the Republicans would vote for it)

that would have likely gone at the sequester limit - with deeper cuts? That or having another dept ceiling crisis.

The way to stop these stupid austerity moves is to regain the House in 2014.

[Decaffeinated]

9. I'll take that over broken promises made by the White House...

No cuts to current retirees and active duty retain the same benefits.

IOW the deal we were promised when we signed up...

[Bandit]

15. You are in the Army and just now realize they break their promises???

I feel sorry for you if you believed anything they ever told you...

[Demo_Chris]

12. If they put their name on it then they put there name on it...

Everything else is spin.

[karynnj]

14. Not really - they need to consider the alternative

There will almost never be an important complex bill where a legislator will agree with each and every provision. Should he/she vote no on everything else --- in which case NOTHING will ever pass.

[Demo_Chris]

17. Obviously, politics is the art of the possible...

But that said, it's amazing what becomes IMPOSSIBLE when one never even tries. Even when we held the House, Senate, and White House we were told it wasn't enough, they needed mega-super majorities across the board or there was no point trying. Nope, without a super-duper-majority there is nothing for it but to pass Republican proposals.

So no, I have no confidence in my party or this administration. I trust that they will fuck the poor at every opportunity, I trust that they will continue to push and pass tax cuts for the affluent and service cuts for the needy, I trust that they will continue to expand the spy state and advance the police state, I trust that drone murders will continue, I trust that given half a chance the Obama Administration will destroy Social Security with the chained CPI system the bankers love so much. And I trust that at even step the party leadership will go right along with it.

[karynnj]

5. I suspect it was in the sequester

The budget fixed some but not all of the things cut by the sequester. It would be a great idea to NOW put in an amendment eliminating those cuts -- without cutting something else. (In the budget itself they had agreed to a top line number and fighting that would have required making it up.)

I think not extending unemployment is worse.

[spanone]

6. same assholes that wouldn't extend unemployment benefits, i would suspect

[Decaffeinated]

10. Extensions to the safety net need to go...

... Before reductions are made in actual earned benefits.

[Glassunion]

11. Does it matter? They will still blame Obama.

So... It's Obama's fault.

[Demo_Chris]

13. If he signs it, then yes it is. nt

[woo me with science]

16. Red versus Blue is rarely the relevant issue anymore.

Corporatists live in both parties now, and Red versus Blue is used primarily as a tool to keep us divided, hating the Other Team, excusing terrible policy when it's enabled by our side, and reluctant to unite against the ones who are impoverishing ALL of us.

The relevant battle is between the corporatists/One Percent and the rest of us.