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Renew Deal

(81,859 posts) Tue Mar 13, 2012, 11:32 PM Mar 2012

Is Santorum better off with Gingrich in the race?

Romney wins some states because Gingrich is around taking votes from Santorum, but he also sucks up delegates. Does it benefit Santorum to have Gingrich around because between the two of them they can collect the majority of the delegates?

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Is Santorum better off with Gingrich in the race? (Original Post) Renew Deal Mar 2012 OP

It benefits Romney. xchrom Mar 2012 #1

How much do the wins matter in the proportional states. Renew Deal Mar 2012 #2

No, grinch siphons off votes that would go to santorum. His staying in helps Romney. Lil Missy Mar 2012 #3

NO, SAnoturm would have won Ohio and Michigan without NEwt in the race JI7 Mar 2012 #4

I'm wondering if Gingrich will even break 10% here on out aint_no_life_nowhere Mar 2012 #5

And if he's not getting enough votes to get delegates... Renew Deal Mar 2012 #6

Maybe I don't understand how this works but aint_no_life_nowhere Mar 2012 #8

No Santorum is right DearAbby Mar 2012 #7

No, Santorum might even be beating Rmoney if Newt had dropped out early Motown_Johnny Mar 2012 #9

xchrom

(108,903 posts)

1. It benefits Romney.

Reply to Renew Deal (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2012, 11:59 PM

Mar 2012

Romney would have actually lost several races were it not for Gingrich.

Gingrich on the other hand gets to re-establish cred. Make more $ on the speaker circuit & get invited on TeeVee like he actually matters - not to mention campaign write offs.

Renew Deal

(81,859 posts)

2. How much do the wins matter in the proportional states.

Reply to xchrom (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 14, 2012, 12:03 AM

Mar 2012

I'd be interested in seeing the stats on that. I think Romney is winning by the "winner take all" states. Otherwise he has less than 50% of the delegates.

The Florida and Arizona issue still need to be addressed by the way.

Lil Missy

(17,865 posts)

3. No, grinch siphons off votes that would go to santorum. His staying in helps Romney.

Reply to Renew Deal (Original post)

Wed Mar 14, 2012, 12:06 AM

Mar 2012

JI7

(89,250 posts)

4. NO, SAnoturm would have won Ohio and Michigan without NEwt in the race

Reply to Renew Deal (Original post)

Wed Mar 14, 2012, 12:11 AM

Mar 2012

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)

5. I'm wondering if Gingrich will even break 10% here on out

Reply to Renew Deal (Original post)

Wed Mar 14, 2012, 12:11 AM

Mar 2012

We'll see in states like Illinois but the perception among GOPers from tonight onward may be that Newt is now irrelevant. Staying in or dropping out might not matter.

Renew Deal

(81,859 posts)

6. And if he's not getting enough votes to get delegates...

Reply to aint_no_life_nowhere (Reply #5)

Wed Mar 14, 2012, 12:31 AM

Mar 2012

He hurts Santorum.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)

8. Maybe I don't understand how this works but

Reply to Renew Deal (Reply #6)

Wed Mar 14, 2012, 12:36 AM

Mar 2012

if Gingrich's votes now go to Santorum, doesn't Santorum pick up those extra delegates and not Romney?

DearAbby

(12,461 posts)

7. No Santorum is right

Reply to Renew Deal (Original post)

Wed Mar 14, 2012, 12:33 AM

Mar 2012

Santorum needs Newt out of the race to get all the Anti Romney vote. The anyone but Romney vote. He would put Romney away.

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)

9. No, Santorum might even be beating Rmoney if Newt had dropped out early

Reply to Renew Deal (Original post)

Wed Mar 14, 2012, 12:47 AM

Mar 2012

There is a big enough anti-Mormon / anti-Romney vote in the Republican party to make sure he can't ever reach 1144. With Newt sucking up part of that it means Santorum can't win outright in a 1-1 with Mitt.

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