Why is the Right really against the ACA.

[SCVDem]

Call it an enlightenment if you will, but I am watching The Ed Show from earlier today and it hit me.

The wealthy and the right are involved in so many activities which are causing cancer and other diseases, such as fracking, nuclear power, tar sands, chemical plants, GMO crops and a list which seems endless.

If the ACA is not defeated, all their insurance investments will have to pay to bring health care to those whose health is compromised.

We are fighting against Cheney and his hidden list of fracking chemicals, against BP and the hidden damage caused by not just the oil spills, but the dispersants. Toxic food and water. Earthquakes and climate change are dismissed so the liability is not theirs.

Without the Affordable Care Act, WE THE PEOPLE are stuck paying the bills for our care and the more we go bankrupt or just die, the better for them.

We are expendable and if you connect the dots, it's cheaper to spend billions to fight Obamacare then to admit their activities are killing us.

That is why the Koch Bros. are spending so much to kill any and all regulations the EPA and other agencies have in place. That is why there are so many filibusters against judges and legislation which are in our best interests.

Race and religion are mere diversions.

Follow the money!

Now things are very clear.

[OffWithTheirHeads]

1. Good call!

[unblock]

2. the right is against the aca simply because it has a (d) attached to it rather than an (r).

in a slightly different universe, obama decides early in his first term not to spend his political capital on health care and makes something else his signature issue.

then in 2012 rmoney proposes to fix healthcare for the nation the way he fixed it for massachusetts. he wins and then it's the republicans who propose the aca.


does anyone here seriously think that the entire right-wing would not get fully behind the aca under such circumstances?

c'mon, this is a right-wing, market-oriented plan that involves the government delivering millions of customers to the doorsteps of huge, private businesses. the only reason we as democrats support it is because our universe is currently far too screwed up to have a fair and honest debate between democrats supporting medicare-for-all and republicans supporting the aca, which is how it should be.

had that been the choice, aca supporters would be on thin ice here on du!

[seattledo]

3. It's so minorities can't get healthcare

One of them recently accidentally admitted to that.

[Archaic]

4. Company subsidized healthcare keeps people in crap jobs, at crap wages.

If we had a national healthcare system like the rest of the industrial world, people could choose jobs, locations and education based on their likes and values.

Instead, people go to college, just to check a box that gets them a shot at a job where they can get healthcare.

With the demolition of the housing market, the structural (permanent) unemployment went up because people couldn't afford to sell their houses to move to better jobs elsewhere.

Healthcare keeps people in their crappy jobs for the same reason. I know for sure I work with a number of people who'd quit tomorrow and start their own company if they had access to decent healthcare.

[left is right]

5. Healthcare keeps people in their crappy jobs...

My dad was saying this in the very late 50s. I was 9 or 10 years old at the time

[Egalitarian Thug]

11. He's right. We got into this worst of all possible situations back then as a

gift to Big Business during the post war labor disputes. Workers had unions and we had a couple million people returning from war and businesses as usual proved themselves incapable of competing while still extracting big profits, so this scheme of non-salary perquisites came into vogue. Obviously it was a bad idea from the start and it took about five minutes for the parasites to turn these enticements into chains.

In less than a decade workers found their "benefits" being used to threaten them into accepting endless concessions.

This was also the time when most of our anti-labor laws were imposed on us...

[Berlum]

6. Republicons = Party of the Poisoned Planet

[SCVDem]

7. We are becoming a nation

of pre-existing conditions and maxed out crappy health plans if we do have one.

We will still be sick, but someone now has to insure us against their willful negligence.

[bigdarryl]

8. Because there DICKS!!!

[Ron Green]

9. It's also Big Corn, Big Soy, Pharma, Tobacco,

and lots more corporate malfeasance.

There's big money in bad health.

[SCVDem]

10. 9-11 First Responders

If they had been covered by the ACA, perhaps fewer would have died waiting for congress to pass funding bills, (or get shamed by Jon Stewart)!

Other examples are the Nevada nuclear test site workers and soldiers, Love Canal residents, Times Beach, Mo residents and all involved with Agent Orange or the burn pits in Iraq.

As I said, the list is endless due to the denial of liability in all these cases.

At a minimum they would have received medical care without waiting for a court ruling on compensation.