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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 11:44 AM Mar 2012

Pew: Obama Up Twelve On Romney Nationally

Pew: Obama Up Twelve On Romney Nationally

A new Pew poll shows President Obama up by twelve on former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney nationally as the former governor stuggles on favorability with registered voters.

Obama leads 54 - 42 in the direct matchup, and one of the chief reasons seems to be Romney's personal rating -- only 29 percent of registered voters see him favorably, while 51 percent see him in a negative light. President Obama's results are the opposite, 56 percent see him favorably versus 41 percent, and Obama has reached 50 percent on job approval for the first time in Pew's polling since May 2011.

And as another hit to Romney, the numbers show his base isn't as high on his candidacy. From Pew's report:

Obama also holds an enthusiasm advantage over both of his main GOP rivals. In a matchup with Romney, 41% say they support Obama strongly, compared with only 28% who strongly support the former Massachusetts governor. Obama holds a commanding 45% to 28% lead over Santorum in strong support.

Republicans have a modest lead in engagement; 71% of Republican and Republican-leaning voters say they have given quite a lot of thought to the presidential election, compared with 64% of Democratic and Democratic-leaning voters. However, this is far short of the engagement advantage the GOP held in pre-election polls in the 2010 midterm campaign.

The Pew numbers favorable to Obama come as other national polling has shown the exact opposite picture: suveys from CBS News and the New York Times, as well as another from ABC News and the Washington Post both showed Obama's approval dropping as gas prices rise. Additionally, a Bloomberg released Tuesday night showed the national Obama--Romney matchup tied, while a Reuters/Ipsos survey from the same time showed Obama with a big lead.

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http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/pew-obama-by-twelve-on-romney-nationally






http://www.people-press.org/2012/03/14/romney-leads-gop-contest-trails-in-matchup-with-obama/

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Pew: Obama Up Twelve On Romney Nationally (Original Post) ProSense Mar 2012 OP
Predictably, the other poll was total unremitting bullshit. TheWraith Mar 2012 #1
Someone should really take ABC & CBS to task over their outlier polls. Anyone know if Nate.... Tarheel_Dem Mar 2012 #2
In the CBS poll the Presidents approval rating was an all time low 41% aaaaaa5a Mar 2012 #5
Yeah, and I am sure the media will harp on those two polls for several more days. DCBob Mar 2012 #6
Yesterday he sent out a condescending tweet saying something along the lines of, boxman15 Mar 2012 #10
I hope it is right. That the other polls do not correlate with this one is disturbing to say the still_one Mar 2012 #3
i heard a number of pundits on MSNBC citing Obama's falling numbers... rfranklin Mar 2012 #4
K/R Dawson Leery Mar 2012 #7
Reuters has ProSense Mar 2012 #8
Santorum is polling better than Rmoney against the President? It's only 1 point, but still...... Tarheel_Dem Mar 2012 #9
Maybe Romney just sucks THAT MUCH. Mr.Turnip Mar 2012 #14
I concur, but this destroys Rmoney's "electability" argument, doncha think? It was his only....... Tarheel_Dem Mar 2012 #15
You won't see this on any of the networks. Arkana Mar 2012 #11
good info Liberal_in_LA Mar 2012 #12
You won't see this, PPP, Reuters, Gallup, or any other poll showing Obama doing well. boxman15 Mar 2012 #13
The right wingers at work are B Calm Mar 2012 #18
And Santorum is ten down, so there goes Romney's electability arguement. WI_DEM Mar 2012 #16
So polls done by parties with a TV presence BumRushDaShow Mar 2012 #17

TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
1. Predictably, the other poll was total unremitting bullshit.
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 11:45 AM
Mar 2012

Of course, if it scares a few people into getting their asses off the sidelines, maybe it's not all bad.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)
2. Someone should really take ABC & CBS to task over their outlier polls. Anyone know if Nate....
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 11:57 AM
Mar 2012

Silver has weighed in on those? They seem awful suspect in relation to all the others.

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
5. In the CBS poll the Presidents approval rating was an all time low 41%
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 12:04 PM
Mar 2012


That was a 9 point drop in his approval rating.


And in the course of just 1 month, he dropped 12 points among women from a 53% approval rating to 41% approval rating.


All of this in 4.5 weeks?


Have the last 4.5 weeks really been the lowest of the Obama Presidency? Over the last 4.5 weeks do you really think the President has dropped 12 points among women?



I think that says it all.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
6. Yeah, and I am sure the media will harp on those two polls for several more days.
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 12:04 PM
Mar 2012

they desperately want a horse race.

boxman15

(1,033 posts)
10. Yesterday he sent out a condescending tweet saying something along the lines of,
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 01:45 PM
Mar 2012

"CBS/NYT poll: poll showing decreasing Obama favorability because of gas prices and statistical anomalies or ZOMG VAST MEDIA CONSPIRACY!!"

Own up to your company's poll being an outlier, Nate. Whether it was on purpose or not is beside the point. Obama has not fallen out of favor with voters again.

You won't stop seeing the CBS/NYT poll on TV, though. You won't see the Pew poll, or the PPP poll, or the Reuters poll, or Gallup, or any other recent poll showing high Obama numbers.

still_one

(92,204 posts)
3. I hope it is right. That the other polls do not correlate with this one is disturbing to say the
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 12:01 PM
Mar 2012

least.

 

rfranklin

(13,200 posts)
4. i heard a number of pundits on MSNBC citing Obama's falling numbers...
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 12:02 PM
Mar 2012

Yesterday and I am wondering why. Perhaps just to promote te "horse race?"

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
8. Reuters has
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 12:39 PM
Mar 2012

Obama up by 11 points.

Obama's approval rating up to 50 percent: Reuters/Ipsos poll

By Samuel P. Jacobs

(Reuters) - For the first time since early July, more Americans approve of the job President Barack Obama is doing than disapprove, according to a new Reuters/Ipsos poll that shows his approval rating now at 50 percent.

The poll, taken March 8-11 on the heels of reports that 227,000 jobs were added to the U.S. economy in February, indicates that Obama's rating has risen by 2 percentage points during the past month. The percentage of Americans who disapprove of the Democratic president was 48 percent, down from 49 percent in February.

<...>

In a survey of registered voters, Obama led Romney 52 to 41 percent in a head-to-head match-up, nearly double the margin from February. Obama led Santorum 52 to 42 percent, and Gingrich 54 to 37 percent.

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http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/13/us-usa-campaign-obama-idUSBRE82C1AN20120313


Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)
15. I concur, but this destroys Rmoney's "electability" argument, doncha think? It was his only.......
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 03:33 PM
Mar 2012

advantage, and it's looks as if he's lost it, against San-i-torium of all people.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
11. You won't see this on any of the networks.
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 01:47 PM
Mar 2012

Doesn't fit their narrative that Obama is "losing ground".

boxman15

(1,033 posts)
13. You won't see this, PPP, Reuters, Gallup, or any other poll showing Obama doing well.
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 02:01 PM
Mar 2012

All of them show Obama hovering around 50% approval and doing well against Romney and Santorum. This goes against the media's narrative of Obama losing ground because of gas prices, which is "evidenced" in the outlier CBS/NYT poll which overrepresented Republicans.

Not only is Obama doing very well in terms of job approval, favorability, and head-to-head matchups, but two-thirds of Americans according to a recent poll put the blame on Big Oil for gas prices, and only 23% (mostly Republicans, I'd imagine) blame President Obama.

But let's stick to the OBAMA IS DOOMED BECAUSE OF HIGH GAS PRICES!!!! meme.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
18. The right wingers at work are
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 04:27 PM
Mar 2012

all screaming about the high gas prices and blaming Obama for not giving the okay on the Tar Sands pipeline.

They don't know what to say when I tell them our number one biggest export right now is refined fuels and this nothing more than election year PREDATORY CAPITALISM trying to make Obama look bad at our expense.

BumRushDaShow

(129,053 posts)
17. So polls done by parties with a TV presence
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 04:05 PM
Mar 2012

like ABC, CBS, & Bloomberg suddenly invoke the "horse-race" horseshit meme? Yet others associated with foundations or political think tanks, etc., show something different? Color me surprised. NOT. The media has been falsely promoting the "gas prices" and "bomb Iran, bomb Syria" garbage over and over and over like zombies and then generate their own polls to justify their nonsense.

Hell, right before Labor Day in 2005 after Katrina, I was paying more than I am paying now (just forked out $3.87/gal). Back then they could at least claim a hurricane. This time it's all speculation. But back then the price eventually crashed and the same needs to happen now.

Can this finally be proof that they manipulate everything for Nielsen ratings?

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